Zone1 Anunnaki

By definition it can't be eternal if it is changing. The SLoT only applies to matter and energy existing inside of space time. The matter and energy that is in our universe was not pre-existing prior to the creation of the universe. It didn't exist in a physical form. It literally popped into existence. Maybe study up on paired particle production. Because that is how our universe was created. From a runaway paired particle production event.
Or so we think. That's our understanding at this time. There's a lot we don't know. You seem to be claiming to know all the answers. Not me.

How do you know what it existed as before the big bang? I think they are even starting to question the big bang now.

 
Or so we think. That's our understanding at this time. There's a lot we don't know. You seem to be claiming to know all the answers. Not me.

How do you know what it existed as before the big bang? I think they are even starting to question the big bang now.

The CMB says there is no other way it could have been. So, no.

I don't know what existed before the big bang but I do know that existing matter and energy can not be an eternal source of creating universes because matter and energy creates space and time. So whatever it was had to be beyond matter and energy as we know it and it had to be unchanging because it had to be eternal. Matter and energy are not unchanging.
 
The CMB says there is no other way it could have been. So, no.

I don't know what existed before the big bang but I do know that existing matter and energy can not be an eternal source of creating universes because matter and energy creates space and time. So whatever it was had to be beyond matter and energy as we know it and it had to be unchanging because it had to be eternal. Matter and energy are not unchanging.
What's on the other side of black holes? Have you even seen a black hole? No, you have not. You have no clue dude. You know how a fish doesn't see the moon or know what it is? Well, you know about moons and other planets, comits, asteroids, other galaxies, but that's about it. You do not have a clue what you are dealing with here.
 
What's on the other side of black holes? Have you even seen a black hole? No, you have not. You have no clue dude. You know how a fish doesn't see the moon or know what it is? Well, you know about moons and other planets, comits, asteroids, other galaxies, but that's about it. You do not have a clue what you are dealing with here.
Nothing is on the other side of black holes. But if you think there is walk me through how they would have produced the CMB in this universe.
 
Nothing is on the other side of black holes. But if you think there is walk me through how they would have produced the CMB in this universe.
How would I know. Trust me Ding, God is outside of our observable universe. And he probably has other aquariums to look at. Some are older than 13 billion years some are newer. Like a lava lamp only eternal. With a google of universes.
 
exactly 'Lu

~S~
If you coat your spaceships with gold it protects you from the cosmic radiation.

And why do we want it so much? Same reason they’re obsessed with it. Imagine finding a planet full of gold and it’s rare back home. What would Dr Smith do on Lost in Space?
 
If you coat your spaceships with gold it protects you from the cosmic radiation.

And why do we want it so much? Same reason they’re obsessed with it. Imagine finding a planet full of gold and it’s rare back home. What would Dr Smith do on Lost in Space?
That greed is universal makes sense as motivation Sealy

~S~
 
That greed is universal makes sense as motivation Sealy

~S~
You can only carry so much gold on the spaceship and you’re constantly coating the ship with gold to keep out the radiation. Like we constantly paint bridges because weather erodes the metal if you don’t. So these visits are to stock up. The 7 monkeys (us) they trained to rule the rest of us gave us religion, slavery, democracy. We built them pyramids and mian structures. The Vatican. He English Kings. Who’s in on this? Maybe no one. We think they were Egyptian pharaohs but they were aliens
 
How would I know. Trust me Ding, God is outside of our observable universe. And he probably has other aquariums to look at. Some are older than 13 billion years some are newer. Like a lava lamp only eternal. With a google of universes.
You wouldn't. You are quite ignorant on this subject. All you know is that the universe popping into existence contradicts your atheistic worldview.
 
So these visits are to stock up. The 7 monkeys (us) they trained to rule the rest of us gave us religion, slavery, democracy.
So much for the prime directive Sealy......

on that note i'd be far more convinced slavery and servitude was far more their shtick..... ~S~
 
So much for the prime directive Sealy......

on that note i'd be far more convinced slavery and servitude was far more their shtick..... ~S~
Of course slavery and servitude was the goal. The ancient Greeks during Plato's time had a decision. Give the masses religion and slavery or Democracy and science. Religion and Slavery won.
 
Give the masses religion and slavery or Democracy and science. Religion and Slavery won.
Speak for yourself because your habitual parroting of the party line says you are describing yourself. Is there even one political issue you will openly disagree with your political lords? Because otherwise, I think you should STFU because you are embarrassing yourself.
 
Speak for yourself because your habitual parroting of the party line says you are describing yourself. Is there even one political issue you will openly disagree with your political lords? Because otherwise, I think you should STFU because you are embarrassing yourself.

I think Trump highlights the stupidity of religious people and how easily manipulated they can be. If you believe without evidence, you're gullible. Period. If you'll believe GW isn't real because of a priest who tells you the end of the world doesn't happen that way so don't worry about GW. End of days are coming no matter what so use up that coal and burn / drill baby drill.


32 million regular churchgoers may not vote this November
 
I think Trump highlights the stupidity of religious people and how easily manipulated they can be. If you believe without evidence, you're gullible. Period. If you'll believe GW isn't real because of a priest who tells you the end of the world doesn't happen that way so don't worry about GW. End of days are coming no matter what so use up that coal and burn / drill baby drill.


32 million regular churchgoers may not vote this November
I'm not hearing you disagree with anything your party masters tell you to believe, uncle tom.
 
I'm not hearing you disagree with anything your party masters tell you to believe, uncle tom.
Give me an example or couple examples of things I should disagree with. I think you'll find Kamala to be a very moderate Democrat. She will work with serious Republicans but not on the social issues.
 
Give me an example or couple examples of things I should disagree with. I think you'll find Kamala to be a very moderate Democrat. She will work with serious Republicans but not on the social issues.
I shouldn't have to. Can't you tell me what you disagree with so you don't look like such an uncle tom?
 

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