rylah
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Hello haters and guys with some more brains and humanity.
Before I say anything You should know that an educated Hebrew won't spill any filth on his people, especially when it endangers them physically in times of "Informational warfare" that manifests in real world actions.
And it's simple: as much as I won't direct hate towards muslims abroad who shake my hand with a smile in the beginning but turn violent when hearing of my origin, I won't direct hate towards those in my land even if I think they act against me as a Hebrew or even those who have racial inclinations against arabs. But that's not to say that I want to cover for something or be called a 'self-hating jew', my only bias is my will to live.
Simply I understand what motivates both sides to express hatred, people are people- they suffer and react alike.
My opinion is relevant to both sides because I'm not Your regular Israeli-
I didn't serve in the army, actually had to go to an army-prison twice for standing this right. I've never put the uniform, shot a bullet shaved or listened to any orders. I'm a prof. musician since early years-I knew my way was around all this games from early on. I have Judaism and Islam with itsā religious texts and lived in a Christian country for a long time..
But mind You I'm not a happy hippie since being bombed each couple of years easily erases that.
I'll start expressing my opinion by stressing that I've never had any misunderstandings with arabs directly NOT ANY. But I didn't use to hang too much time in those communities. Of course negativity and suspicion is felt in times of war, specially when You hear some guys crying a praise to their god, while being bombarded themselves in the same place. Go figure- Hebrews at the same time usually pray to our ancestors' God for families and the whole nation to be saved.
Although Israel was declared as a Jewish state it's legitimacy from a religious point is divided between 2 views- one stating as sworn by king Solomon that we aren't to return in a big wave to not appease the nations, while the second takes in account the 3rd condition given to the Nations by God, not to make his people's life in the diaspora a nightmare (actually it demands to just not make it hard beyond reason). Well there're idealists who stay abroad and lead communities and there're those who saw the signs abroad and interpreted them as a warning to start preparing for the final stages-as promised in the prophecy. And that's a key point to all our relations as I see them, more on this later..
While the point I've mentioned above are key to understand such a religious place, the state of Israel established itself as a high developed technologic oasis with secular values. The economic and social attitude play the biggest role. And here I must emphasize on a matter that Anti-Israeli trolls lie (let's be naĆÆve- because of lack of info) daily:
against all logic and lies- arabs are not discriminated anyhow! Say what You want, better check it Yourself- ISRAELI ARABS IS THE MOST PRIVILLEGED SECTOR OF COMMUNITY.
For example they are not obliged to pay the land tax and social security like every citizen, they have more social privileges than any holocaust survival to say the least. That's not to say that the state lacks budget in any way. In order to understand it, all You have to do is travel by some small arab village and compare the houses of an average Arabic family and the apartments of some jewish engineer or a doctor in the city. And of course not to forget- arabs are well represented in the highest-paid jobs: doctors, lawyers, nurses, engineers, bank workers etc. Of course it would be a mistake not to mention construction industry which is practically monopolized.
All this while the average Israeli has less and less worth for the salary, has to pay fully for education, social services and doesnāt even think to own an apartment before reaching 35 (which will becme his own only in 20-30 yrs). By the way each Israeli jewish family has a right to lease a piece of land for a limited amount of 50 years only, before renewing the permit. And Iām not even mentioning the Hebrew families that lived there even before the state.
Itās important to mention that the orthodox communities live in closed environments among themselves and mainly with the help of donations. As the arabs they have big families but get mistreated by the left (Gaza sympathizers) wing being falsely portrayed as ānon-working who only study and prayā, thus the only state money they are willing to take is for Yeshivas- religious intern schools.
Donāt get me wrong, Iām not trying to shove You some extreme situation, Israel was called a āstart-up nationā for a reason- itās a wonderful place if Youāre young and want to work in the field of technology, everything else suffers from mediocrity. But from the beginning an average arab has much more financial support so that only If you get an inheritance thereās a fair chance initially. And with all of that do the arab parents still send their youngest children in tore dirty clothes to clean widescreens of sopping by cars on the highways?
UNFORTUNATELY YES! Do many of them look exactly like everyone, speak Hebrew with barely no accent and lead a healthy social life as equals? IāM HAPPY THEY DO.
However now Iāll get to the Zionsm problem. Zion is one among names of Jerusalem, the symbol of our people, that kept many generations in the diaspora āaliveā as a nation. The hope to see Zion again tied people tightly locally and between further communities during hard times which were few. Thereās even a sentence in a prayer āIf I forget You Jerusalem, let my right hand be forgottenā.
But Zionism led by Herzel was and is an extremely anti jewish political movement which merely uses the Hebrew people as a reason to dabble in world-geo-politics and some believe, to play religious gamesā¦Itās laws are extremely foreign to the culture as the leaders
who decide for the nation. It was so in the beginning, itās so now.
Iām not an orthodox (although studied in religious school), as most of Israelis Iām secular celebrating the holidays, fasts and pray sometimes, but Iām sorry call it however You like- the thing the Zionists declared as a jewish state has nothing to do with decent life as a Hebrew. It doesnāt care for our laws, it puts obstacles in the way hard working orthodox- who are the loyal keepers of our culture and the covenant- those values upon which this state was declared- āas envisioned by our prophetsā. Especially being declared by B. Gurion- it was in my view it was an evil sarcasm, In my view it was designed so that a Hebrew man woman woul loose their connection to the roots and spirituality thus making them a naĆÆve pawn in the game of western nations. Pay attention I wrote āHEBREW manā- not the zionist state.
The boldest examples are-
1.Not letting the Hebrew to go up the Temple Mount while letting the muslims play soccer in our holiest of places (fro which they like to throw rocks at the praying).
2. Making a Hebrew soldier who swore in Jerusalem to evict his own people out of their home by force, only to give that land to sworn enemies.
In perspective I see the rove of the state as a key player in the false end times theater.
Saying this I surely seem like that conspiracy freak, well I am to a point. Itās elementary to accept that people of high ranks meet to discuss and decide on the key issues. Its elementary to see that thereās an agenda to make it seem as if the prophecies the main 3 religions for the end times are fulfilling these days- a thin that makes them all clash finally.
And lastly those who have eyes can surely read āMorals and Dogmaā by Albert Pikeā¦
So of course the haters among You will blindly choose what they prefer to see and dismiss anything slightly conflicting to his/her propaganda. My intent was merely to express my self in purely self-exploratory pursue. All the arguments surrounding the internet on this topic are repeated endlessly in propaganda wars over young, still unformed minds that lack the ability to think critically for themselves. Whatās even more prevalent is the unoriginality in them- arguments and techniques copied directly from Goebbels, Russian secret service and alike.
But thatās for the rest of the world who live in a totally different dimension to be entertained in the illusion of self worth and high morale.
I wonāt even try to dispute that nonsense, all that Talmud citations are beyond ridiculous. I think people around the world got familiar with the ways of āINTERNET JIHADā and the tendencies to respond in a certain way to cutting facts/evidence. People here donāt even get bothered too much, we know who we deal with and whatās in the arsenal. And as further the enemy goes the more the prophecies get fulfilled on both sides- the story gets tighter and 3 traditions (basically 1 and 2 variations of the first) get into a final collision. And the most interesting thing is that each is wating for itās redeemer, while the 2 copied versions insist that Hebrew peopleās messiah is going to be a false one, while waiting for the 2nd one they just donāt know that our prophets promised us 2 redeemers.
p.s. How can anybody believe the nonsense of the "P"alestinian nation when it's inhabitants don't even have the first letter to pronounce it correctly? It's beyond naĆÆve.
Rylah.
Before I say anything You should know that an educated Hebrew won't spill any filth on his people, especially when it endangers them physically in times of "Informational warfare" that manifests in real world actions.
And it's simple: as much as I won't direct hate towards muslims abroad who shake my hand with a smile in the beginning but turn violent when hearing of my origin, I won't direct hate towards those in my land even if I think they act against me as a Hebrew or even those who have racial inclinations against arabs. But that's not to say that I want to cover for something or be called a 'self-hating jew', my only bias is my will to live.
Simply I understand what motivates both sides to express hatred, people are people- they suffer and react alike.
My opinion is relevant to both sides because I'm not Your regular Israeli-
I didn't serve in the army, actually had to go to an army-prison twice for standing this right. I've never put the uniform, shot a bullet shaved or listened to any orders. I'm a prof. musician since early years-I knew my way was around all this games from early on. I have Judaism and Islam with itsā religious texts and lived in a Christian country for a long time..
But mind You I'm not a happy hippie since being bombed each couple of years easily erases that.
I'll start expressing my opinion by stressing that I've never had any misunderstandings with arabs directly NOT ANY. But I didn't use to hang too much time in those communities. Of course negativity and suspicion is felt in times of war, specially when You hear some guys crying a praise to their god, while being bombarded themselves in the same place. Go figure- Hebrews at the same time usually pray to our ancestors' God for families and the whole nation to be saved.
Although Israel was declared as a Jewish state it's legitimacy from a religious point is divided between 2 views- one stating as sworn by king Solomon that we aren't to return in a big wave to not appease the nations, while the second takes in account the 3rd condition given to the Nations by God, not to make his people's life in the diaspora a nightmare (actually it demands to just not make it hard beyond reason). Well there're idealists who stay abroad and lead communities and there're those who saw the signs abroad and interpreted them as a warning to start preparing for the final stages-as promised in the prophecy. And that's a key point to all our relations as I see them, more on this later..
While the point I've mentioned above are key to understand such a religious place, the state of Israel established itself as a high developed technologic oasis with secular values. The economic and social attitude play the biggest role. And here I must emphasize on a matter that Anti-Israeli trolls lie (let's be naĆÆve- because of lack of info) daily:
against all logic and lies- arabs are not discriminated anyhow! Say what You want, better check it Yourself- ISRAELI ARABS IS THE MOST PRIVILLEGED SECTOR OF COMMUNITY.
For example they are not obliged to pay the land tax and social security like every citizen, they have more social privileges than any holocaust survival to say the least. That's not to say that the state lacks budget in any way. In order to understand it, all You have to do is travel by some small arab village and compare the houses of an average Arabic family and the apartments of some jewish engineer or a doctor in the city. And of course not to forget- arabs are well represented in the highest-paid jobs: doctors, lawyers, nurses, engineers, bank workers etc. Of course it would be a mistake not to mention construction industry which is practically monopolized.
All this while the average Israeli has less and less worth for the salary, has to pay fully for education, social services and doesnāt even think to own an apartment before reaching 35 (which will becme his own only in 20-30 yrs). By the way each Israeli jewish family has a right to lease a piece of land for a limited amount of 50 years only, before renewing the permit. And Iām not even mentioning the Hebrew families that lived there even before the state.
Itās important to mention that the orthodox communities live in closed environments among themselves and mainly with the help of donations. As the arabs they have big families but get mistreated by the left (Gaza sympathizers) wing being falsely portrayed as ānon-working who only study and prayā, thus the only state money they are willing to take is for Yeshivas- religious intern schools.
Donāt get me wrong, Iām not trying to shove You some extreme situation, Israel was called a āstart-up nationā for a reason- itās a wonderful place if Youāre young and want to work in the field of technology, everything else suffers from mediocrity. But from the beginning an average arab has much more financial support so that only If you get an inheritance thereās a fair chance initially. And with all of that do the arab parents still send their youngest children in tore dirty clothes to clean widescreens of sopping by cars on the highways?
UNFORTUNATELY YES! Do many of them look exactly like everyone, speak Hebrew with barely no accent and lead a healthy social life as equals? IāM HAPPY THEY DO.
However now Iāll get to the Zionsm problem. Zion is one among names of Jerusalem, the symbol of our people, that kept many generations in the diaspora āaliveā as a nation. The hope to see Zion again tied people tightly locally and between further communities during hard times which were few. Thereās even a sentence in a prayer āIf I forget You Jerusalem, let my right hand be forgottenā.
But Zionism led by Herzel was and is an extremely anti jewish political movement which merely uses the Hebrew people as a reason to dabble in world-geo-politics and some believe, to play religious gamesā¦Itās laws are extremely foreign to the culture as the leaders
who decide for the nation. It was so in the beginning, itās so now.
Iām not an orthodox (although studied in religious school), as most of Israelis Iām secular celebrating the holidays, fasts and pray sometimes, but Iām sorry call it however You like- the thing the Zionists declared as a jewish state has nothing to do with decent life as a Hebrew. It doesnāt care for our laws, it puts obstacles in the way hard working orthodox- who are the loyal keepers of our culture and the covenant- those values upon which this state was declared- āas envisioned by our prophetsā. Especially being declared by B. Gurion- it was in my view it was an evil sarcasm, In my view it was designed so that a Hebrew man woman woul loose their connection to the roots and spirituality thus making them a naĆÆve pawn in the game of western nations. Pay attention I wrote āHEBREW manā- not the zionist state.
The boldest examples are-
1.Not letting the Hebrew to go up the Temple Mount while letting the muslims play soccer in our holiest of places (fro which they like to throw rocks at the praying).
2. Making a Hebrew soldier who swore in Jerusalem to evict his own people out of their home by force, only to give that land to sworn enemies.
In perspective I see the rove of the state as a key player in the false end times theater.
Saying this I surely seem like that conspiracy freak, well I am to a point. Itās elementary to accept that people of high ranks meet to discuss and decide on the key issues. Its elementary to see that thereās an agenda to make it seem as if the prophecies the main 3 religions for the end times are fulfilling these days- a thin that makes them all clash finally.
And lastly those who have eyes can surely read āMorals and Dogmaā by Albert Pikeā¦
So of course the haters among You will blindly choose what they prefer to see and dismiss anything slightly conflicting to his/her propaganda. My intent was merely to express my self in purely self-exploratory pursue. All the arguments surrounding the internet on this topic are repeated endlessly in propaganda wars over young, still unformed minds that lack the ability to think critically for themselves. Whatās even more prevalent is the unoriginality in them- arguments and techniques copied directly from Goebbels, Russian secret service and alike.
But thatās for the rest of the world who live in a totally different dimension to be entertained in the illusion of self worth and high morale.
I wonāt even try to dispute that nonsense, all that Talmud citations are beyond ridiculous. I think people around the world got familiar with the ways of āINTERNET JIHADā and the tendencies to respond in a certain way to cutting facts/evidence. People here donāt even get bothered too much, we know who we deal with and whatās in the arsenal. And as further the enemy goes the more the prophecies get fulfilled on both sides- the story gets tighter and 3 traditions (basically 1 and 2 variations of the first) get into a final collision. And the most interesting thing is that each is wating for itās redeemer, while the 2 copied versions insist that Hebrew peopleās messiah is going to be a false one, while waiting for the 2nd one they just donāt know that our prophets promised us 2 redeemers.
p.s. How can anybody believe the nonsense of the "P"alestinian nation when it's inhabitants don't even have the first letter to pronounce it correctly? It's beyond naĆÆve.
Rylah.
