Anti-gunners....you have to explain Sweden.....

[2aguy]

Number of gun homicides in Sweden - 48 in 2020.

Guns in Sweden — Firearms, gun law and gun control

Gun law, gun control statistics, number of guns in Sweden, gun deaths, firearm facts and policy, armed violence, public health and development

www.gunpolicy.org

Number of gun homicides in the US in 2020 - 19,348

Yes….their drug gangs are violent but still only choose to commit murder only rarely compared to criminals created by the democrat party policies in the cities they control. But, as the story shows, their gangs are some of the most violent in Europe and in Sweden, where fully automatic rifles are illegal….as are grenades…..those are the weapons used by these gangs showing that guncontrol doesnt stoo criminals.

 

[Hollie]

Even going by proportions, Sweden is still doing far better than we are..

Sweden's population is 10 million. About 1/30th of the us. If you multiply that 48 x 30, you come up with. 1440.... Still far better than our 19,348.

Even going by proportions, your attempt to dishonestly manipulate the numbers was pretty sleazy.

Do the proportions for us on the Sweden / Great Satan hand grenade incidents.

 

[JoeB131]

Even going by proportions, your attempt to dishonestly manipulate the numbers was pretty sleazy.

Uh, no, what is sleazy is a gun industry that floods out streets with guns trying to terrify people into wanting a dangerous product they don't need.

The Swedes don't really have a problem with only 48 gun homicides a year.
We have a real problem with 19,358 gun homicides a year.

Do the proportions for us on the Sweden / Great Satan hand grenade incidents.

Sure, right after I get on the Unicorn Sightings.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Number of gun homicides in Sweden - 48 in 2020.

Guns in Sweden — Firearms, gun law and gun control

Gun law, gun control statistics, number of guns in Sweden, gun deaths, firearm facts and policy, armed violence, public health and development

www.gunpolicy.org

Number of gun homicides in the US in 2020 - 19,348

Funny how you leftists cleverly use "homicide" when talking about Sweden... 83% of gun deaths in America are SUICIDE, and you anti-liberty clowns ALWAYS include them when talking about America.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Uh, no, what is sleazy is a gun industry that floods out streets with guns trying to terrify people into wanting a dangerous product they don't need.

The Swedes don't really have a problem with only 48 gun homicides a year.
We have a real problem with 19,358 gun homicides a year.



Sure, right after I get on the Unicorn Sightings.

Of course Sweden has less population than Los Angeles County and a homogenous racial and cultural population.

In FACT, the problems they do have are pretty well due to the introduction of third world Muslims into their society.

 

[Polishprince]

Even going by proportions, Sweden is still doing far better than we are..

Sweden's population is 10 million. About 1/30th of the us. If you multiply that 48 x 30, you come up with. 1440.... Still far better than our 19,348.

America has a lot more in common with countries like El Salvador and Congo- countries with draconian gun control and high crime..

Very few immigrants nowadays come to America from Sweden.

 

[Hollie]

Uh, no, what is sleazy is a gun industry that floods out streets with guns trying to terrify people into wanting a dangerous product they don't need.

The Swedes don't really have a problem with only 48 gun homicides a year.
We have a real problem with 19,358 gun homicides a year.



Sure, right after I get on the Unicorn Sightings.

The gun industry provides a product people want and have a right to own. There's nothing sleazy about a company providing a product.

What's sleazy is the leftist tactic of making laws that limit the ability of law abiding people to own a firearm to defend themselves because leftists are refusing to enforce laws that punish criminals.

I didn't see the decree wherein you are now the Head Mullah in Charge of deciding what people want or need.

The Swedes really have a problem with hand grenades exploding. It's concerning that you haven't yet been placed in charge of enforcing an Assault Hand Grenade Ban.

 

[JoeB131]

Funny how you leftists cleverly use "homicide" when talking about Sweden... 83% of gun deaths in America are SUICIDE, and you anti-liberty clowns ALWAYS include them when talking about America.

Actually, it's more like 54%.

Let's review, shall we.

In 2020, the US had.

19,384 gun homicides.
23,941 gun suicides
486 unintentional gun deaths
43811 total gun deaths.

so 23941/43811 = 54%

Guns in the United States — Firearms, gun law and gun control

Gun law, gun control statistics, number of guns in United States, gun deaths, firearm facts and policy, armed violence, public health and development

www.gunpolicy.org

 

[JoeB131]

The gun industry provides a product people want and have a right to own. There's nothing sleazy about a company providing a product.

What's sleazy is the leftist tactic of making laws that limit the ability of law abiding people to own a firearm to defend themselves because leftists are refusing to enforce laws that punish criminals.

Except most gun deaths are suicides and domestic violence. Very few people defend themselves with guns. They do use guns to do harm to themselves.

And, yes, the gun industry is sleazy when they don't make good faith efforts to limit the abuse of their products.

Ever open an OTC medication, and have to get through three seals to get at it? Well, that's because back in the 1980's, some asshole in Chicago poisoned Tylenol and 8 people died. So every manufacturer of OTC products put new safety seals on their products to keep that from happening again.

The gun industry looks at guns being misused by criminals and the mentally unwell, and they rub their hands together thinking how much money they can make off of it.

 

[Hollie]

Actually, it's more like 54%.

Let's review, shall we.

In 2020, the US had.

19,384 gun homicides.
23,941 gun suicides
486 unintentional gun deaths
43811 total gun deaths.

so 23941/43811 = 54%

Guns in the United States — Firearms, gun law and gun control

Gun law, gun control statistics, number of guns in United States, gun deaths, firearm facts and policy, armed violence, public health and development

www.gunpolicy.org

You flail your Pom Poms in proclaiming Japan as a model where jailing is rare and it's a gun-free paradise.


Lets review, shall we?

Topic: Suicide in Japan

Get the latest statistics and facts on suicide in Japan

www.statista.com

Despite noticeably decreasing suicide numbers in recent years, Japan still has one of the highest suicide rates among high-income OECD countries. Historically, Japan’s above-average suicide rates have been closely linked to the economic situation of the country. While health issues are the prime reason for committing suicide among Japanese, existential worries and problems at work are major factors that can also trigger self-harming behavior. For example, suicide numbers peaked in 2009, when the country experienced its worst recession since World War II. More recently, the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on the Japanese economy has coincided with an increase in suicide among women.

 

[JoeB131]

You flail your Pom Poms in proclaiming Japan as a model where jailing is rare and it's a gun-free paradise.


Lets review, shall we?

Suicide isn't considered a sin in Japanese culture. It's actually considered honorable, despite best efforts to change the culture.

This is a country that had Kamikazes and Seppuku in its history.

Try to keep on track here, sweetie... we are talking about crime and murder, not suicide.

The Japanese have relatively little.
We have way too much.

 

[Hollie]

Except most gun deaths are suicides and domestic violence. Very few people defend themselves with guns. They do use guns to do harm to themselves.

And, yes, the gun industry is sleazy when they don't make good faith efforts to limit the abuse of their products.

Ever open an OTC medication, and have to get through three seals to get at it? Well, that's because back in the 1980's, some asshole in Chicago poisoned Tylenol and 8 people died. So every manufacturer of OTC products put new safety seals on their products to keep that from happening again.

The gun industry looks at guns being misused by criminals and the mentally unwell, and they rub their hands together thinking how much money they can make off of it.

Except people defending themselves is a protected right.

When leftists decide that protecting the rights of criminals is paramount and decides that enabling criminals is a societal benefit, people take action.

Nevada breaks gun sale record in 2020 amid pandemic, social unrest and contentious elections – The Nevada Independent

Through the first week of November, the state Point of Contact Firearms Program has conducted more than 160,000 background checks for gun purchases, according to records kept by the state Department of Public Safety. In 2019, the background checks program processed fewer than 102,100 checks...

thenevadaindependent.com

“It's a higher percentage of new buyers now — first time gun buyers,” Mamola told the television station at the time. “They're buying guns to protect their home for their own safety''




I'm guessing you can't admit that criminal enabling leftist policies have nothing to do with rising crime.

 

[JoeB131]

Except people defending themselves is a protected right.

When leftists decide that protecting the rights of criminals is paramount and decides that enabling criminals is a societal benefit, people take action.

Yes, it's easy to panic people into buying guns who have no business having them.

And then we wonder why the murder rate keeps going up.

 

[Hollie]

Suicide isn't considered a sin in Japanese culture. It's actually considered honorable, despite best efforts to change the culture.

This is a country that had Kamikazes and Seppuku in its history.

Try to keep on track here, sweetie... we are talking about crime and murder, not suicide.

The Japanese have relatively little.
We have way too much.

Try to stay on topic, pumpkin. You are endlessly commenting on suicide and gun deaths but fail to acknowledge that Japan has among the highest suicide rates even with low gun ownership.

 

[Hollie]

Yes, it's easy to panic people into buying guns who have no business having them.

And then we wonder why the murder rate keeps going up.

You missed the part about background checks required for firearm purchase. Overwhelmingly, people who should not own a firearm are prevented from doing so.

Yes. You wonder why firearm purchase rates go up when leftists put criminals on the streets.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Even going by proportions, Sweden is still doing far better than we are..

Sweden's population is 10 million. About 1/30th of the us. If you multiply that 48 x 30, you come up with. 1440.... Still far better than our 19,348.

Sweden's population is 10 million. About 1/30th of the us.

About 800,000 muslims in Sweden....US population 334,000,000. About 1/417.

If you multiply that 48 x 417, you come up with. 20016.... Still far better than our 19,348.

 

[JoeB131]

Try to stay on topic, pumpkin. You are endlessly commenting on suicide and gun deaths but fail to acknowledge that Japan has among the highest suicide rates even with low gun ownership.

But they have low crime and incareration rates. in fact, crime is so unusual, the Japanese government has to issue pamphlets on "How not to get murdered when visiting the US".

You missed the part about background checks required for firearm purchase. Overwhelmingly, people who should not own a firearm are prevented from doing so.

Not really, given how many

 

[JoeB131]

Sweden's population is 10 million. About 1/30th of the us.

About 800,000 muslims in Sweden....US population 334,000,000. About 1/417.

If you multiply that 48 x 417, you come up with. 20016.... Still far better than our 19,348.

I'd ask what you are talking about, but I'd rather not know.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'd ask what you are talking about, but I'd rather not know.

You think these are the gun and grenade killers in Sweden?

It's these guys...

 

[2aguy]

Of course Sweden has less population than Los Angeles County and a homogenous racial and cultural population.

In FACT, the problems they do have are pretty well due to the introduction of third world Muslims into their society.

And their gun violence is not coming from Swedish nationals.......the gun crime...and grenade throwing, is all coming from the immigrant drug gangs.....