Another Zimmerman thread -DOJ no civil right violation--LOL

[Maxx]

It's sad that the liberals have no problem with the atrocious abuse of power.
Obama and his activist henchman Holder using a government agency (DOJ) and it's police powers to go after a private citizen.
Obviously these 2 race baiters would love to hand Zimmerman over to the lynch mob.

Considering the justice system failed miserably, a lynch mob might be in order.

And just how did the criminal justice system fail?
Regardless of what you think of Zimmerman, all the physical evidence supports his claim he was getting his head pounded into the pavement.
He certainly exercised some very poor judgment in putting himself in that position, but he had every right to stop the skinny punk from slamming his head into the concrete.
The little thug Martin put himself in that position too.

 

[JoeB131]

And just how did the criminal justice system fail?
Regardless of what you think of Zimmerman, all the physical evidence supports his claim he was getting his head pounded into the pavement.

No, it really didn't. And part of that was because the cops took the initial attitude of "Oh, it was just a black kid", they didn't really do a forensic investigation or document anything at the time. They let Trayvon's body sit in the morgue for hours before they even tried to identify him.

So the first place it failed was in the initial investigation. That it took a month before they actually started treating it like a possible crime was a major failure.

He certainly exercised some very poor judgment in putting himself in that position, but he had every right to stop the skinny punk from slamming his head into the concrete.
The little thug Martin put himself in that position too.

Yes, how dare Martin walk around on a public street while being black.

 

[squeeze berry]

And just how did the criminal justice system fail?
Regardless of what you think of Zimmerman, all the physical evidence supports his claim he was getting his head pounded into the pavement.

No, it really didn't. And part of that was because the cops took the initial attitude of "Oh, it was just a black kid", they didn't really do a forensic investigation or document anything at the time. They let Trayvon's body sit in the morgue for hours before they even tried to identify him.

So the first place it failed was in the initial investigation. That it took a month before they actually started treating it like a possible crime was a major failure.

He certainly exercised some very poor judgment in putting himself in that position, but he had every right to stop the skinny punk from slamming his head into the concrete.
The little thug Martin put himself in that position too.

Yes, how dare Martin walk around on a public street while being black.

so you read minds now joe?

or you have some inside info?

or you just make shit up?

 

[JoeB131]

And just how did the criminal justice system fail?
Regardless of what you think of Zimmerman, all the physical evidence supports his claim he was getting his head pounded into the pavement.

No, it really didn't. And part of that was because the cops took the initial attitude of "Oh, it was just a black kid", they didn't really do a forensic investigation or document anything at the time. They let Trayvon's body sit in the morgue for hours before they even tried to identify him.

So the first place it failed was in the initial investigation. That it took a month before they actually started treating it like a possible crime was a major failure.

He certainly exercised some very poor judgment in putting himself in that position, but he had every right to stop the skinny punk from slamming his head into the concrete.
The little thug Martin put himself in that position too.

Yes, how dare Martin walk around on a public street while being black.

so you read minds now joe?

or you have some inside info?

or you just make shit up?

What does that have to do with anything I said?

 

[bgr39]

According to YOU, Zimmerman should've just layed on the ground and let Martin beat on him until Zimmerman had brain damage and needed surgery to close the wounds on his face and head?
Zimmerman having his head pounded into the concrete sidewalk and suffering a broken nose wasn't enough of a reason to defend himself against Martin???????

Zimmerman should have stayed in the car like the dispatcher told him to. Zimmerman should not have chased this kid down the street without identifying himself to where the kid had a reasonable fear of his life.

And, no, I don't think you should shoot someone because you are getting your ass kicked in a fight you started.

The dispatcher asked Zimmerman which way Martin had gone.
Zimmerman then got outta his truck to find out which way Martin had gone.
THEN the dispatcher asked if Zimmerman had gotten outta his truck.
When Zimmerman replied "yes" the dispatcher said "we don't need you to do that"
Zimmerman replied "OK" and was heading back to his truck when Martin confronted Zimmerman.
Martin sucker-punched Zimmerman THEN sat on Zimmerman's chest and started to pound Zimmerman's head into the concrete.
Martin was punching Zimmerman MMA-style when Zimmerman was screaming for help.
Some people said they were calling 911 but no one came to Zimmerman's aide, THAT was when Zimmerman put his legal 9mm and fired a single shot into martin's torso.
YOU need to read the evidence that was testified to in court, the corroborating evidence and really listen to the un-doctored 911 tape.
When you just say what you are told to parrot makes you look foolish.

 

[JoeB131]

The dispatcher asked Zimmerman which way Martin had gone.
Zimmerman then got outta his truck to find out which way Martin had gone.
THEN the dispatcher asked if Zimmerman had gotten outta his truck.
When Zimmerman replied "yes" the dispatcher said "we don't need you to do that"
Zimmerman replied "OK" and was heading back to his truck when Martin confronted Zimmerman.
Martin sucker-punched Zimmerman THEN sat on Zimmerman's chest and started to pound Zimmerman's head into the concrete.
Martin was punching Zimmerman MMA-style when Zimmerman was screaming for help.
Some people said they were calling 911 but no one came to Zimmerman's aide, THAT was when Zimmerman put his legal 9mm and fired a single shot into martin's torso.
YOU need to read the evidence that was testified to in court, the corroborating evidence and really listen to the un-doctored 911 tape.
When you just say what you are told to parrot makes you look foolish.

I did read the testimony.

Zimmerman was still as guilty as sin.

Come on, he was "just looking around". No. he was stalking this kid.

He was out there with a gun looking for trouble.

The fact this guy has been arrested four times since his "acquittal" should be proof to SENSIBLE people this guy is trouble.

 

[blastoff]

Another great source is the book If I Had A Son by Jack Cashill.

After reading it there was no doubt in my mind the DoJ investigation would result in no further charges whatsoever.

Well done, George.

 

[bgr39]

Martin doubled back and confronted Zimmerman.
Martin threw the first pounch.
Martin only suffered a slight abrasion to his knuckle.
Zimmerman suffered wound to his head and a broken nose from Martin.
THAT is what the evidence, that was testified to in court, showed.
The criminal (Martin) was the agressor.
Lesson learned: IF you attack someone that has a CCW and a 9mm to back it uo, it could cost you your life.

Actually, there's no evidence that Zimmerman broke his nose. He was released from the hospital that night, that's now not serious his 'injuries' were.

And, no, defending yourself from a stranger chasing you at night is not "criminal".

If Zimmerman were black and Trayvon were white, this would have been a different story.

Zimmerman's nose was swollen with blood streaming from it, from Martin punching Zimmerman MMA style.
Zimmerman had injuries to the back of his head from Martin slamming Zimmerman's head into the concrete sidewalk.
Zimmerman was being beaten severely .... THAT was legal grounds to use lethal-force.
IF a black man was attacked and was being severely beaten and was carrying a legal gun, HE would be justified in shooting whoever was beating him.
You need to stop being a race-baiter.

 

[JoeB131]

Zimmerman's nose was swollen with blood streaming from it, from Martin punching Zimmerman MMA style.
Zimmerman had injuries to the back of his head from Martin slamming Zimmerman's head into the concrete sidewalk.
Zimmerman was being beaten severely .... THAT was legal grounds to use lethal-force.
IF a black man was attacked and was being severely beaten and was carrying a legal gun, HE would be justified in shooting whoever was beating him.
You need to stop being a race-baiter.

If a black man had shot an unarmed white child, that neighborhood would have been overrun with CSI and the prosecutors would have bullied him into a plea bargain.

Get real. We have different justice for black folks than white folks in this country.

 

[longknife]

The hilarity of some of these responses just gave me a day-long smile.

Thanks.

 

[bgr39]

The dispatcher asked Zimmerman which way Martin had gone.
Zimmerman then got outta his truck to find out which way Martin had gone.
THEN the dispatcher asked if Zimmerman had gotten outta his truck.
When Zimmerman replied "yes" the dispatcher said "we don't need you to do that"
Zimmerman replied "OK" and was heading back to his truck when Martin confronted Zimmerman.
Martin sucker-punched Zimmerman THEN sat on Zimmerman's chest and started to pound Zimmerman's head into the concrete.
Martin was punching Zimmerman MMA-style when Zimmerman was screaming for help.
Some people said they were calling 911 but no one came to Zimmerman's aide, THAT was when Zimmerman put his legal 9mm and fired a single shot into martin's torso.
YOU need to read the evidence that was testified to in court, the corroborating evidence and really listen to the un-doctored 911 tape.
When you just say what you are told to parrot makes you look foolish.

I did read the testimony.

Zimmerman was still as guilty as sin.

Come on, he was "just looking around". No. he was stalking this kid.

He was out there with a gun looking for trouble.

The fact this guy has been arrested four times since his "acquittal" should be proof to SENSIBLE people this guy is trouble.

Zimmerman was "looking around" to see where Martin had gone.
You seem to see the evidence through your liberal-tinted glasses.
The Sanford police were right the first time, when they said that it was self-defense
It was only the race-baiters, the race-hustlers and the weak-minded that can't/wont find out what REALLY HAPPENED, that hollered, screamed and stomped their feet until they decided to indict Zimmerman, against the evidence, to appease all those people (race-baiters, the race-hustlers and the weak-minded that can't/wont find out what REALLY HAPPENED).
LOTS of people legally carry a gun every legal place they go, They are NOT looking for trouble, as you claim, but rather want to defend themselves and their loved ones, against criminals.
How many times has Zimmerman be found guilty of any crimes since he was acquitted in Sanford Fl.???
You need to stop "reaching", and come back to reality and admit that Zimmerman is NOT guilty of ANYTHING, then you can go on with the rest of your life.

 

[jon_berzerk]

The dispatcher asked Zimmerman which way Martin had gone.
Zimmerman then got outta his truck to find out which way Martin had gone.
THEN the dispatcher asked if Zimmerman had gotten outta his truck.
When Zimmerman replied "yes" the dispatcher said "we don't need you to do that"
Zimmerman replied "OK" and was heading back to his truck when Martin confronted Zimmerman.
Martin sucker-punched Zimmerman THEN sat on Zimmerman's chest and started to pound Zimmerman's head into the concrete.
Martin was punching Zimmerman MMA-style when Zimmerman was screaming for help.
Some people said they were calling 911 but no one came to Zimmerman's aide, THAT was when Zimmerman put his legal 9mm and fired a single shot into martin's torso.
YOU need to read the evidence that was testified to in court, the corroborating evidence and really listen to the un-doctored 911 tape.
When you just say what you are told to parrot makes you look foolish.

I did read the testimony.

Zimmerman was still as guilty as sin.

Come on, he was "just looking around". No. he was stalking this kid.

He was out there with a gun looking for trouble.

The fact this guy has been arrested four times since his "acquittal" should be proof to SENSIBLE people this guy is trouble.

Zimmerman was "looking around" to see where Martin had gone.
You seem to see the evidence through your liberal-tinted glasses.
The Sanford police were right the first time, when they said that it was self-defense
It was only the race-baiters, the race-hustlers and the weak-minded that can't/wont find out what REALLY HAPPENED, that hollered, screamed and stomped their feet until they decided to indict Zimmerman, against the evidence, to appease all those people (race-baiters, the race-hustlers and the weak-minded that can't/wont find out what REALLY HAPPENED).
LOTS of people legally carry a gun every legal place they go, They are NOT looking for trouble, as you claim, but rather want to defend themselves and their loved ones, against criminals.
How many times has Zimmerman be found guilty of any crimes since he was acquitted in Sanford Fl.???
You need to stop "reaching", and come back to reality and admit that Zimmerman is NOT guilty of ANYTHING, then you can go on with the rest of your life.

no matter how one cuts it

this pullout by the doj is another blow

to the leftist anti justice league

--LOL

 

[bgr39]

Zimmerman's nose was swollen with blood streaming from it, from Martin punching Zimmerman MMA style.
Zimmerman had injuries to the back of his head from Martin slamming Zimmerman's head into the concrete sidewalk.
Zimmerman was being beaten severely .... THAT was legal grounds to use lethal-force.
IF a black man was attacked and was being severely beaten and was carrying a legal gun, HE would be justified in shooting whoever was beating him.
You need to stop being a race-baiter.

If a black man had shot an unarmed white child, that neighborhood would have been overrun with CSI and the prosecutors would have bullied him into a plea bargain.

Get real. We have different justice for black folks than white folks in this country.

STOP being a race-baiter!!
Take off your liberal-tinted glasses.
The Sanford police and the jury BOTH agreed that Martin was the aggressor.
The Sanford police and the jury BOTH say that Zimmerman was justified when he shot Martin in self-defense.
The Sanford police and the jury BOTH went by the testimony and the evidence when the made their decision that Zimmerman shot Martin in self-defense.
The race-baiters, the race-hustlers and the MSM tried to railroad George Zimmerman, with false stories, innuendo and doctored tapes. NONE of them told the real story of what happened, according to the testimony and the corroborating evidence.

 

[JoeB131]

Zimmerman was "looking around" to see where Martin had gone.
You seem to see the evidence through your liberal-tinted glasses.
The Sanford police were right the first time, when they said that it was self-defense
It was only the race-baiters, the race-hustlers and the weak-minded that can't/wont find out what REALLY HAPPENED, that hollered, screamed and stomped their feet until they decided to indict Zimmerman, against the evidence, to appease all those people (race-baiters, the race-hustlers and the weak-minded that can't/wont find out what REALLY HAPPENED).
LOTS of people legally carry a gun every legal place they go, They are NOT looking for trouble, as you claim, but rather want to defend themselves and their loved ones, against criminals.
How many times has Zimmerman be found guilty of any crimes since he was acquitted in Sanford Fl.???
You need to stop "reaching", and come back to reality and admit that Zimmerman is NOT guilty of ANYTHING, then you can go on with the rest of your life.

Here's the thing.

IN a sane country where someone who was on mind-altering medications like Zimmerman was would never be allowed to carry a gun, do you think his fat ass would have ever gotten out of the car to start with?

Of course not.

I frankly don't feel safe that ZImmerman, who was on Temazepam and Adderal (drugs that have documented side effects of aggressiveness and hallucinations) is out there with a gun. I'm not sure why you do.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So Joe you admit that Holder, DOJ and Obama are incompetent since after 3 years of researching what you call a open and shut case they found nothing?

 

[jon_berzerk]

So Joe you admit that Holder, DOJ and Obama are incompetent since after 3 years of researching what you call a open and shut case they found nothing?

good point

--LOL

 

[JoeB131]

So Joe you admit that Holder, DOJ and Obama are incompetent since after 3 years of researching what you call a open and shut case they found nothing?

No, I'm saying Federal Law didn't really have a remedy. Unlike the cops who beat Rodney King, there wasn't a federal case here.

 

[bgr39]

Here's the thing.

IN a sane country where someone who was on mind-altering medications like Zimmerman was would never be allowed to carry a gun, do you think his fat ass would have ever gotten out of the car to start with?

Of course not.

I frankly don't feel safe that ZImmerman, who was on Temazepam and Adderal (drugs that have documented side effects of aggressiveness and hallucinations) is out there with a gun. I'm not sure why you do.

Zimmerman was NOT on mind-altering drugs.
"According to the report, prior to the shooting Zimmerman had been prescribed Adderall and Temazepam, medications that can cause side effects such as agitation and mood swings, but in fewer than 10 PERCENT of patients."
You need to stop making shit up, and stick with the "FACTS"

Martin had pot in his system.
Martin had been thrown outta school three times.
Martin's mother had thrown Trayvon outta the house because he was outta control.
Martin was the one with the anger issues. NOT Zimmerman.
I' feel a lot safer with Zimmerman carrying a legal gun than I would feel around someone that had been thrown outta school three times, smoked pot regularly, had anger issues, always fighting, some who's mother couldn't control him so she had to send him to live with his father.
someone who was a criminal.
Martin was the only one that broke any laws that night.
Lesson learned: keep your anger under control and don't attack someone that has a CCW and a 9 mm to back it up

 

[bgr39]

No, I'm saying Federal Law didn't really have a remedy. Unlike the cops who beat Rodney King, there wasn't a federal case here.

IF Martin was killed ILLEGALLY, THAT would be "depriving Martin of his civil rights".
Holder couldn't even stretch HIS definition of "civil rights" far enough to put federal charges against Zimmerman.
THAT tells any thinking person that Zimmerman shot Martin LEGALLY, IN SELF-DEFENSE.
CASE CLOSED, OVER, FINISHED........ CHECKMATE.

 

[Oldstyle]

There is no excuse. The system failed. Miserable.

And Zimmerman is inevitably going to kill someone else because we didn't take him off the street this time.

Ya cause after all a jury got it wrong right?

No.

With the info they had, they got it "right". They had no choice.

But, as we all know, they didn't have all the information.

With all due respect, Luddly...the Main Stream Media attempted to convict George Zimmerman of murdering a defenseless little child who'd gone out to buy candy and was stalked by a racist gun nut. That was the initial narrative that the media pushed. When a jury heard ALL the information about what took place that night they found George Zimmerman not guilty of murder...AS THEY SHOULD HAVE!!!