Another young woman falls victim to GOP abortion laws. RIP

[ShahdagMountains]

And you're just as shallow here as elsewhere, whining but never able to argue back, state her case, just whine and rant.

Nothing of substance to argue with.

Arguing is a serious business, not to be undertaken lightly.

 

[westwall]

You’re just as annoying on here as elsewhere.

Bungghole is a troll. What else did you expect?

 

[Mac-7]

They see its an emergency.

Of course they do

And they know saving the woman's life is within the law

They are only feigning ignorance

 

[toomuchtime_]

Except that doctors in Texas asked the Medical Board to better define the conditions and the Medical Board refused. The law is badly written on purpose.

the legal definition, not the medical one.

Exactly. Thats the issue. Its intentional.

Again, this is just a clumsy propaganda stunt. Everyone knows what a medical emergency is and the fact the doctors didn't remove the fetus while it had a heartbeat tells us that they did not believe her condition constituted a medical emergency, not that the doctors and lawyers were too stupid to understand what a medical emergency is.

 

[toomuchtime_]

She died for our cause. The dead woman wants us to do this.

So we agree, this is just a propaganda stunt.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

And Texas's law is far more explicit than NY's, but you won't care about NY's because you favor abortion for any reason to the last second.

What laws do give examples like you are asking for?

Once again, you approve of putting politics over lives, "If we want to get rid of the law, some of these women have to die"

You mean killing fetuses and babies is wrong?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Nothing of substance to argue with.

Yet you are arguing, take a lesson from me:

Arguing is a serious business, not to be undertaken lightly.

Not for Sherlock Holmes, now that'll be five dollars please.

 

[Zincwarrior]

you have evidence of that, because they have Stated emergencies are not covered by the 2 doctor requirement.

Has nothing to do with whatever you think you're talking about. The Hospitals aren't permitting it, because of legal concerns.

Meanwhile you don't care that the NY abortion law allowing viable fetuses to be aborted to the last second if the health of the mother is at risk isn't defined at all.

You're right.

 

[martybegan]

You mean killing fetuses and babies is wrong?

I believe abortion for birth control purposes is morally reprehensible. That being said I am also a pragmatist, and to me a 10-12 week limit on birth control abortions is the compromise point. Exceptions for life of the mother afterward.

Dead or non-viable fetus removal isn't an abortion, it's an assisted miscarriage.

And 10-12 weeks covers abortions for rape as well.

 

[martybegan]

Has nothing to do with whatever you think you're talking about. The Hospitals aren't permitting it, because of legal concerns.

You're right.

No, they aren't because they want to create situations where they can advocate for the law to be removed or overturned. And they are willing to risk other people's lives over it.

So you are OK with an abortion at 9 months of a viable fetus if the mother has hives or high blood pressure?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Of course they do

And they know saving the woman's life is within the law

They are only feigning ignorance

The hospital lawyers aren't.

 

[Zincwarrior]

So you are OK with an abortion at 9 months of a viable fetus if the mother has hives or high blood pressure?

I am ok with government minding its own business.

 

[playtime]

We will see if it matters on Nov 6.

 

[martybegan]

I am ok with government minding its own business.

Cop-out. Sorry, but this is an issue people are involved in, and you can't just stop playing and take your ball home.

Answer the question.

 

[Rawley]

It patently isnt. Doctors dont trust those crazy fuckers. Rightly so.

Really? How many doctors have been imprisoned in TX

We were discussing Texas.

The law (SB00008F) does not define or give examples of what is meant by "emergency" therefore during a trial it would be a matter of interpretation. If the state presented an expert witness who contradicted the doctor's categorization of "emergency" he goes to prison for 99 years.

This law has been in place for three years. How many Doctors has TX arrested?

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Yet you are arguing, take a lesson from me:




Not for Sherlock Holmes, now that'll be five dollars please.

Scrolled.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Cop-out. Sorry, but this is an issue people are involved in, and you can't just stop playing and take your ball home.

Answer the question.

I did. This is a private issue between the woman and her medical staff. If women don't have the simple right to autonomy of their own personal body free from government oppression, then they and we have no rights whatsoever.

 

[Mac-7]

The hospital lawyers aren't.

Arent what?

Doctors who are ignorant about medicine?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I believe abortion for birth control purposes is morally reprehensible.

So? why are your beliefs even relevant? why should your beliefs be imposed upon another human being?

That being said I am also a pragmatist, and to me a 10-12 week limit on birth control abortions is the compromise point. Exceptions for life of the mother afterward.

Dead or non-viable fetus removal isn't an abortion, it's an assisted miscarriage.

And 10-12 weeks covers abortions for rape as well.

 

[martybegan]

I did. This is a private issue between the woman and her medical staff. If women don't have the simple right to autonomy of their own personal body free from government oppression, then they and we have no rights whatsoever.

That isn't an answer, it's a dodge. Society has decided this is an issue, and just because one side doesn't want it to be, doesn't make your wish so.