Another Lie debunked-IG report concludes FBI did not spy on trump campaign

[Billiejeens]

That there was anything wrong or political in the origins of the FISA request on Carter Page...for starters

That Sztrok and Page while no fans of Trump...engaged in no official acts that were politically motivated

No one under Horowitz pervue would claim that it was political bias - is what it means - he had very limited resources.

 

[Seawytch]

is it not second hand from an unnamed source? is it not someone "assuming" what is in the report?

why don't we wait and see what it actually says on Monday?

Sure, we can wait...waiting won't change that you're going to be very disappointed with the result.

we shall see. please be honest about what it actually says when it comes out tomorrow.

Yoo hoo! I'm here, ready to honestly discuss the Horowitz report...

Another trump lie bites the dust. But that's not going to matter to the cult members.

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Do you realize that this is a very damning report in regards to FBI malfeasance?

Yes and? None of it was the “malfeasance” Doddering Donnie claimed.

 

[Lesh]

And no political Bias.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...940d88-184c-11ea-a659-7d69641c6ff7_story.html

Now Trumpers will move on to the Durham Report for another disappointment

 

[Lesh]

That there was anything wrong or political in the origins of the FISA request on Carter Page...for starters - That one is clearly false.

That Sztrok and Page while no fans of Trump...engaged in no official acts that were politically motivated

No one under Horowitz pervue would claim that it was political bias - is what it means - he had very limited resources.

Horowitz found no political bias.

You lose.

 

[progressive hunter]

And no political Bias.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...940d88-184c-11ea-a659-7d69641c6ff7_story.html

Now Trumpers will move on to the Durham Report for another disappointment

NBC News: IG so bothered by FBI screwing up 'at every level' that it will start a NEW investigation

 

[IM2]

we shall see. please be honest about what it actually says when it comes out tomorrow.

Yoo hoo! I'm here, ready to honestly discuss the Horowitz report...

Another trump lie bites the dust. But that's not going to matter to the cult members.

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Do you realize that this is a very damning report in regards to FBI malfeasance?

What I realize is that this report renders what trump claimed as bs. As for whatever reforms happen, I'm fine with it.

What specific claim do you believe has been affected?

All of them. You know what they are so don't ask dumb ass questions.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Welp, Looks like IM2, SeaWitch, Faun and all the other Lefties were right.
Basically, in a patronizing way, the report says no one did anything substantially wrong.
Hmmmm...IIRC, I think I said it would say that long ago.

According to pretty much everything that comes from the media and the government, the Left is innocent and the good guys.....

Things that should make you go "hmmmmmm"

And remember folks,
"All that is required for evil men to prevail is for good men to do nothing"

My next prediction as I gaze into my ever knowing crystal ball....
Socialism will officially take root within 5 years.
Gun seizures and restrictions on gun ownership are headed for times that gun grabbers will just love.

 

[IM2]

Trump cult, Your foolishness has come to an end. Horowitz found what trump claimed untrue.
You believe some imaginary bs. So here's a cartoon for you:

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Well IM2, the report says you folks are right,...so that's the end of it.

Now they just need to stop playing around and remove that bogus President....right?

The only corruption and wrong doing is by the right.

Even Stevie Wonder can see that.
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(Righties, All that was required for evil men to own your asses was for you to do nothing more than bicker on forums)

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Rightwingers across the nation are dazed and confused tonight.....

They just KNEW that the IG report was going to turn things around and "show em" once and for all !!!

Like I said 100 times before, if you're waiting on the deep state to save you from the deep state, you're an idiot.

<insert Milk Spit laugh meme here>

 

[Faun]

Rightwingers across the nation are dazed and confused tonight.....

They just KNEW that the IG report was going to turn things around and "show em" once and for all !!!

Like I said 100 times before, if you're waiting on the deep state to save you from the deep state, you're an idiot.

<insert Milk Spit laugh meme here>

They believed that because their source for information are rightwing sites that have been lying to them for years now about how Trump was spied on.

 

[Oldstyle]

You might have a point if Joe Biden hadn't gone on camera and bragged about making the Ukrainians a deal "they couldn't refuse"!

You're being disingenuous again.

Did Biden NOT do that? Why am I being "disingenuous" when I point out that he did?

 

[IM2]

You might have a point if Joe Biden hadn't gone on camera and bragged about making the Ukrainians a deal "they couldn't refuse"!

You're being disingenuous again.

Did Biden NOT do that? Why am I being "disingenuous" when I point out that he did?

Biden did not do that for the reasons you imply. Thus your statement is disingenuous.

 

[Oldstyle]

So when do you get to launch investigations? It appears that Burisma tried to buy favors from Joe Biden by putting his totally unqualified son on their board. If that doesn't warrant an investigation...what would?

“Appearance” aren’t enough. Perhaps if you had any evidence whatsoever that anyone at Burisma was asking for anything from our government.

I ask again...what does warrant an investigation? Do you think Hunter Biden being appointed to a board of a company in the Ukraine....which he has no experience with...that deals in natural gas...which he has no experience with...APPEARS to smell bad when his father is the Vice President and has been put in charge of overseeing things in the Ukraine?

I'm a common sense kind of person, Colfax. I find it hard to swallow that Burisma put someone on their board that wasn't from the Ukraine...had no experience with the energy sector...and to top it off...was a recovering cocaine addict that got kicked out of the Navy for failing a drug test! What you're asking me to accept is that Burisma put Biden on the board because he was qualified...and he obviously WASN'T!

Sure. I know what you mean. Biden almost certainly doesn’t belong on that board.

Say Burisma put him there just to make themselves look good. Look important. Look like they’re closer aligned to western powers. Basically be a mantlepiece or a figurehead. Think Charlton Heston as president of the NRA in his late 70s.

Say all that’s true. That’s not illegal. It’s a bad look, but it’s not illegal.

It’s illegal if Biden was asked by Burisma to get something from our government. It has to be a quid pro quo. Biden gets his board position. Burisma gets something in return from our government. Yes, everyone points towards the firing of Shokin, but there has to be some reason to believe that was done because Burisma wanted it and that desire was communicated to Biden.

There is nothing to make anyone believe that is what happened. In fact, as testimony has shown, the firing of Shokin wasn’t done because of Burisma. It wasn’t because of Biden. It was because the State Dept officials thought it was in the best interests of the United States who then sent their recommendation to Obama and it was approved. Nothing sinister about it.

So Biden telling the Ukrainians they had six hours to fire Shokin or lose the billion plus doesn't appear "sinister" to you? Really?

That was the culmination of Poroshenko stalling for many months to avoid Biden's insistence that Shokin be fired.

So you don't deny that Biden gave the Ukrainians six hours to fire someone in their country or he would withhold their billion dollar aid package? On top of that you now admit that Biden insisted for many months that Shokin be fired?

 

[IM2]

Rightwingers across the nation are dazed and confused tonight.....

They just KNEW that the IG report was going to turn things around and "show em" once and for all !!!

Like I said 100 times before, if you're waiting on the deep state to save you from the deep state, you're an idiot.

<insert Milk Spit laugh meme here>

There is no deep state.

 

[Oldstyle]

You might have a point if Joe Biden hadn't gone on camera and bragged about making the Ukrainians a deal "they couldn't refuse"!

You're being disingenuous again.

Did Biden NOT do that? Why am I being "disingenuous" when I point out that he did?

Biden did not do that for the reasons you imply. Thus your statement is disingenuous.

I'm not implying anything! I'm simply pointing out facts. Burisma put Joe Biden's kid on the payroll for big bucks doing something he had zero expertise at! Burisma was being investigated for corruption by a Ukrainian prosecutor. Joe Biden threatened to withhold over a billion dollars in US foreign aid if that prosecutor wasn't fired in six hours.

So did the fact that Hunter Biden worked for Burisma elicit that response from Joe Biden? Why a six hour deadline?

 

[IM2]

“Appearance” aren’t enough. Perhaps if you had any evidence whatsoever that anyone at Burisma was asking for anything from our government.

I ask again...what does warrant an investigation? Do you think Hunter Biden being appointed to a board of a company in the Ukraine....which he has no experience with...that deals in natural gas...which he has no experience with...APPEARS to smell bad when his father is the Vice President and has been put in charge of overseeing things in the Ukraine?

I'm a common sense kind of person, Colfax. I find it hard to swallow that Burisma put someone on their board that wasn't from the Ukraine...had no experience with the energy sector...and to top it off...was a recovering cocaine addict that got kicked out of the Navy for failing a drug test! What you're asking me to accept is that Burisma put Biden on the board because he was qualified...and he obviously WASN'T!

Sure. I know what you mean. Biden almost certainly doesn’t belong on that board.

Say Burisma put him there just to make themselves look good. Look important. Look like they’re closer aligned to western powers. Basically be a mantlepiece or a figurehead. Think Charlton Heston as president of the NRA in his late 70s.

Say all that’s true. That’s not illegal. It’s a bad look, but it’s not illegal.

It’s illegal if Biden was asked by Burisma to get something from our government. It has to be a quid pro quo. Biden gets his board position. Burisma gets something in return from our government. Yes, everyone points towards the firing of Shokin, but there has to be some reason to believe that was done because Burisma wanted it and that desire was communicated to Biden.

There is nothing to make anyone believe that is what happened. In fact, as testimony has shown, the firing of Shokin wasn’t done because of Burisma. It wasn’t because of Biden. It was because the State Dept officials thought it was in the best interests of the United States who then sent their recommendation to Obama and it was approved. Nothing sinister about it.

So Biden telling the Ukrainians they had six hours to fire Shokin or lose the billion plus doesn't appear "sinister" to you? Really?

That was the culmination of Poroshenko stalling for many months to avoid Biden's insistence that Shokin be fired.

So you don't deny that Biden gave the Ukrainians six hours to fire someone in their country or he would withhold their billion dollar aid package? On top of that you now admit that Biden insisted for many months that Shokin be fired?

Biden was carrying out official US foreign policy. It was also EU policy as well as the policy of the Ukrainian Rada. It was not official US foreign policy for trump to do what he did.

 

[Oldstyle]

I ask again...what does warrant an investigation? Do you think Hunter Biden being appointed to a board of a company in the Ukraine....which he has no experience with...that deals in natural gas...which he has no experience with...APPEARS to smell bad when his father is the Vice President and has been put in charge of overseeing things in the Ukraine?

I'm a common sense kind of person, Colfax. I find it hard to swallow that Burisma put someone on their board that wasn't from the Ukraine...had no experience with the energy sector...and to top it off...was a recovering cocaine addict that got kicked out of the Navy for failing a drug test! What you're asking me to accept is that Burisma put Biden on the board because he was qualified...and he obviously WASN'T!

Sure. I know what you mean. Biden almost certainly doesn’t belong on that board.

Say Burisma put him there just to make themselves look good. Look important. Look like they’re closer aligned to western powers. Basically be a mantlepiece or a figurehead. Think Charlton Heston as president of the NRA in his late 70s.

Say all that’s true. That’s not illegal. It’s a bad look, but it’s not illegal.

It’s illegal if Biden was asked by Burisma to get something from our government. It has to be a quid pro quo. Biden gets his board position. Burisma gets something in return from our government. Yes, everyone points towards the firing of Shokin, but there has to be some reason to believe that was done because Burisma wanted it and that desire was communicated to Biden.

There is nothing to make anyone believe that is what happened. In fact, as testimony has shown, the firing of Shokin wasn’t done because of Burisma. It wasn’t because of Biden. It was because the State Dept officials thought it was in the best interests of the United States who then sent their recommendation to Obama and it was approved. Nothing sinister about it.

So Biden telling the Ukrainians they had six hours to fire Shokin or lose the billion plus doesn't appear "sinister" to you? Really?

That was the culmination of Poroshenko stalling for many months to avoid Biden's insistence that Shokin be fired.

So you don't deny that Biden gave the Ukrainians six hours to fire someone in their country or he would withhold their billion dollar aid package? On top of that you now admit that Biden insisted for many months that Shokin be fired?

Biden was carrying out official US foreign policy. It was also EU policy as well as the policy of the Ukrainian Rada. It was not official US foreign policy for trump to do what he did.

Official US foreign policy was to threaten to withhold a billion dollars in aid if other nations didn't do things like fire prosecutors looking into corruption at the company where the Vice President's kid is pulling down big bucks at a no show job? Kind of makes you wonder who was making THAT kind of foreign policy, IM2!

 

[Faun]

“Appearance” aren’t enough. Perhaps if you had any evidence whatsoever that anyone at Burisma was asking for anything from our government.

I ask again...what does warrant an investigation? Do you think Hunter Biden being appointed to a board of a company in the Ukraine....which he has no experience with...that deals in natural gas...which he has no experience with...APPEARS to smell bad when his father is the Vice President and has been put in charge of overseeing things in the Ukraine?

I'm a common sense kind of person, Colfax. I find it hard to swallow that Burisma put someone on their board that wasn't from the Ukraine...had no experience with the energy sector...and to top it off...was a recovering cocaine addict that got kicked out of the Navy for failing a drug test! What you're asking me to accept is that Burisma put Biden on the board because he was qualified...and he obviously WASN'T!

Sure. I know what you mean. Biden almost certainly doesn’t belong on that board.

Say Burisma put him there just to make themselves look good. Look important. Look like they’re closer aligned to western powers. Basically be a mantlepiece or a figurehead. Think Charlton Heston as president of the NRA in his late 70s.

Say all that’s true. That’s not illegal. It’s a bad look, but it’s not illegal.

It’s illegal if Biden was asked by Burisma to get something from our government. It has to be a quid pro quo. Biden gets his board position. Burisma gets something in return from our government. Yes, everyone points towards the firing of Shokin, but there has to be some reason to believe that was done because Burisma wanted it and that desire was communicated to Biden.

There is nothing to make anyone believe that is what happened. In fact, as testimony has shown, the firing of Shokin wasn’t done because of Burisma. It wasn’t because of Biden. It was because the State Dept officials thought it was in the best interests of the United States who then sent their recommendation to Obama and it was approved. Nothing sinister about it.

So Biden telling the Ukrainians they had six hours to fire Shokin or lose the billion plus doesn't appear "sinister" to you? Really?

That was the culmination of Poroshenko stalling for many months to avoid Biden's insistence that Shokin be fired.

So you don't deny that Biden gave the Ukrainians six hours to fire someone in their country or he would withhold their billion dollar aid package? On top of that you now admit that Biden insisted for many months that Shokin be fired?

I never denied any of that, ya lying con tool.

 

[Oldstyle]

As for what official US foreign policy IS? The President makes foreign policy! Not Congress. Not the Supreme Court.