Another illegal alien kills an American citizen.

They are less violent than people like you. Yeah, I know that it hurts, but there it is.
These people are dead and their friends and families lives are ruined. These tragedies could have been prevented by following immigration policies You have no sympathy for these victims at all. I can't decide if your stance is because you are a heartless piece of shit or you are just one of the brainless sheep that spews out the shit the left tells you to.

This is the shit you are trying to deflect from with your blood math.

Illegals charged with murder, rape and kidnapping in a week of shocking crimes across the US
 
Just what in the hell is that supposed to mean?

Are you saying that because American citizens commit crimes too, that the illegal should stay in this country, adding to the crime rate? Or that as Thunder said, their crimes don't matter because American citizens commit crimes as well?

That is just ridiculous. I thought you progressives were all about the "rule of law"? At least you are when going after those you don't like...But when it comes to your pet groups, then that is out the window....

The emphasis from ICE, and HS is on criminal illegals at this point. That has been conveyed over and over to you people. Now, that doesn't mean that if other illegals are in proximity of the criminals that they won't be swept up as well, but none the less, they are here illegally, and it is incumbent to remove them.

The bar of due process is different for a citizen of the US, as opposed to an individual here illegally...Individuals here illegally need only have an administrative hearing as to their status, and then an order of deportation will, or won't be issued. If the deportation order is given, the illegal is outta here...Do not pass go, just removed. period. They don't get endless appeals, jury trials, or any of that. Just removal. That's the chance they take.

Quit being crabby, j-mac. Just give that indignation up, man, it will make you old before your time and even more crabby.

Do it by the law, give them their due process, and go about your business.
 
This is also a strawman argument...Figures reported yesterday say that wages in our service industries are up. There's a good explanation for this. The illegals depressing wages are being forced out of these jobs, paving the way for American's to work them for better wages.

Only to the unknowledgeable like you. Wages are up a bit because they are leaving. Inflation is higher. Just quit whining.
 
JESH is a typical progressive. Only responding with canned answers he saw on his favorite TV propaganda show. A regurgitating donkey if you will...Once you scratch the surface with him, he devolves into repetition, and slander...It's really all he has.

I have no trouble answering you sheep. You simply cannot defend your actions. Give them due process and shut up.

j-mac, that slanderous and repitious mutterer of nonsense, is gaslighting.
 
Yes, you gaslight, j-mac, all the time, as you do on this thread.
No, That's just untrue.
Illegal aliens are less likely to hurt people here than citizens are. That's a fact.
Based on what exactly? Here is an interesting article on the subject I think you should read.

 
What j-mac posts does not change the facts.

Immigrants, per capita, are less likely to hurt someone that are our citizens.
 
Why can't old Joe be charged with negligent homicide for his program of open borders that invited these monsters into the Country?
 
What j-mac posts does not change the facts.

Immigrants, per capita, are less likely to hurt someone that are our citizens.
Why can't old Joe be charged with negligent homicide for his program of open borders that invited these monsters into the Country?

You can be charged with liable for lying.
 
Twice deported alien charged with recent murder.
Ramos Guzman and the shooter stood up, and the shooter began to walk away before turning around, pulling a gun from his waistband and shooting the victim multiple times.
 
Total bullshit.
Based on extensive research, undocumented immigrants commit violent crimes at lower rates per capita than U.S. citizens.


Here’s what the data shows:


🔍 Key Findings from Major Studies


  • A National Institute of Justice study using Texas arrest records (2012–2018) found that undocumented immigrants were arrested for violent crimes at less than half the rate of native-born citizens.
  • A Stanford University study analyzing 140 years of incarceration data concluded that immigrants—including undocumented ones—have consistently had lower imprisonment rates than U.S.-born individuals since 1880.
  • Research published in Criminology found that communities with higher concentrations of undocumented immigrants experienced statistically significant decreases in violent crime.
  • The American Immigration Council reported that as the immigrant share of the population grew from 1980 to 2022, the violent crime rate dropped by 34.5% nationally.
⚠️ A Note on Exceptions

A Note on Exceptions

One study by the Crime Prevention Research Center claimed undocumented immigrants in Arizona were more likely to be convicted of serious crimes. However, this study has been widely criticized for methodological flaws and disputed by other researchers.

🧠 Why the Misconception?

  • Public perception often conflates immigration status with crime risk, especially after high-profile incidents.
  • Many crime statistics don’t distinguish between legal and undocumented immigrants, making accurate comparisons difficult.
In short, the overwhelming consensus across peer-reviewed studies and government data is that undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit violent crimes per capita than native-born citizens

Were you raised in a barn?

Truth telling is being civilized.
 
Based on extensive research, undocumented immigrants commit violent crimes at lower rates per capita than U.S. citizens.


Here’s what the data shows:


🔍 Key Findings from Major Studies


  • A National Institute of Justice study using Texas arrest records (2012–2018) found that undocumented immigrants were arrested for violent crimes at less than half the rate of native-born citizens.
  • A Stanford University study analyzing 140 years of incarceration data concluded that immigrants—including undocumented ones—have consistently had lower imprisonment rates than U.S.-born individuals since 1880.
  • Research published in Criminology found that communities with higher concentrations of undocumented immigrants experienced statistically significant decreases in violent crime.
  • The American Immigration Council reported that as the immigrant share of the population grew from 1980 to 2022, the violent crime rate dropped by 34.5% nationally.
⚠️ A Note on Exceptions

A Note on Exceptions

One study by the Crime Prevention Research Center claimed undocumented immigrants in Arizona were more likely to be convicted of serious crimes. However, this study has been widely criticized for methodological flaws and disputed by other researchers.

🧠 Why the Misconception?

  • Public perception often conflates immigration status with crime risk, especially after high-profile incidents.
  • Many crime statistics don’t distinguish between legal and undocumented immigrants, making accurate comparisons difficult.
In short, the overwhelming consensus across peer-reviewed studies and government data is that undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit violent crimes per capita than native-born citizens

Were you raised in a barn?

Truth telling is being civilized.
Less than blacks for sure, not white Americans.
 
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Less than blacks for sure, not white Americans.

So you hate people of color. Most of them are better than you, of course, in all important ways.

And you admission means you think illegal immirgrants are more civil worthy that white citizens.
 
So you hate people of color. Most of them are better than you, of course, in all important ways.

And you admission means you think illegal immirgrants are more civil worthy that white citizens.
Wrong. Just pointing out the fact that blacks commit the most violent crimes here.

Keep in mind you are also narrowing it down to “violent crimes”, which excludes white collar crimes like fraud. Illegals engage in massive fraud with our welfare system and ID theft. Even getting a fraudulent ID just to work is itself a crime.

Also note that a whopping 64% of all crimes go unsolved. So many petty crimes like theft are never reported too much less ever traced out to a perp. There is no doubt that Identity thieves wouldn’t hesitate to steal property as well.

Your statistics are bullshit, cherry picking convicted violent crimes. To suggest middle class white people commit the majority of crimes is total horseshit.

You should change your name to John Edgar Horse Shit.
 
Based on extensive research, undocumented immigrants commit violent crimes at lower rates per capita than U.S. citizens.


Here’s what the data shows:


🔍 Key Findings from Major Studies


  • A National Institute of Justice study using Texas arrest records (2012–2018) found that undocumented immigrants were arrested for violent crimes at less than half the rate of native-born citizens.
  • A Stanford University study analyzing 140 years of incarceration data concluded that immigrants—including undocumented ones—have consistently had lower imprisonment rates than U.S.-born individuals since 1880.
  • Research published in Criminology found that communities with higher concentrations of undocumented immigrants experienced statistically significant decreases in violent crime.
  • The American Immigration Council reported that as the immigrant share of the population grew from 1980 to 2022, the violent crime rate dropped by 34.5% nationally.
⚠️ A Note on Exceptions

A Note on Exceptions

One study by the Crime Prevention Research Center claimed undocumented immigrants in Arizona were more likely to be convicted of serious crimes. However, this study has been widely criticized for methodological flaws and disputed by other researchers.

🧠 Why the Misconception?

  • Public perception often conflates immigration status with crime risk, especially after high-profile incidents.
  • Many crime statistics don’t distinguish between legal and undocumented immigrants, making accurate comparisons difficult.
In short, the overwhelming consensus across peer-reviewed studies and government data is that undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit violent crimes per capita than native-born citizens

Were you raised in a barn?

Truth telling is being civilized.

I don't give a ****. If they are here illegally, they need to be rounded up and thrown out of here.
 
Wrong. Just pointing out the fact that blacks commit the most violent crimes here.

Keep in mind you are also narrowing it down to “violent crimes”, which excludes white collar crimes like fraud. Illegals engage in massive fraud with our welfare system and ID theft. Even getting a fraudulent ID just to work is itself a crime.

Also note that a whopping 64% of all crimes go unsolved. So many petty crimes like theft are never reported too much less ever traced out to a perp. There is no doubt that Identity thieves wouldn’t hesitate to steal property as well.

Your statistics are bullshit, cherry picking convicted violent crimes. To suggest middle class white people commit the majority of crimes is total horseshit.

You should change your name to John Edgar Horse Shit.

Keep in mind we know you are a violent bigot and racist.

The right people are watching you.

AI co-pilot does not cherry pick.

Yes, white citizens are more likely to commit crimes than immigrants, mostly people of color.
 

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