Another illegal alien kills an American citizen.

[sealybobo]

Your party are the ones that flooded the country with them, and fights to keep them here, so don't be surprised if they get taken advantage of.

Nope but you keep repeating that maybe eventually it'll become true. It started on Reagan's watch. He signaled to employers he would not go after them. Very similar to what Trump just did.

I don't compete with them for work. Trump supporters do. Deplorables. I want to take advantage of the cheap labor. White uneducated workers ask for too much. Especially in red states. At least Trump is running illegals out of blue cities. Thanks Trump. Now our stupid Americans in blue cities don't have to compete with them.

I've told you this for years and now you see I am right. It's these corporations that lure them in. We didn't flood the country with them.

Let me give you an example. Bush in the 2000's flooded the country with them as he was leading us into his Great Recession. Back when we had high unemployment. Now that was the right time to complain about illegals. But the last 4 years we are at zero unemployment. Everyone who wanted a job could find one. But the issue resonated with deplorables and now Trump is letting them down because if you going to allow illegals in red state hotels, farms and restaurants, you can't stop them from coming to our big blue cities.

Let me know when you wake up and realize you've been duped by Trump. Not yet?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Never said any of that.
My point was, that EVERY murder committed by an Illegal, and they are ALL terrible, is HIGHLIGHTED by your cult, whereas normal Americans murdering other Americans is not discussed.

I said, NO MURDER is justified.
So stop with the gaslighting, and acknowledge the FACTS.

Like all Dims you rush in and deflect any criticism of illegal immigration. That's the standard of guys, whatever the issue is regarding illegals being here.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Nope but you keep repeating that maybe eventually it'll become true. It started on Reagan's watch. He signaled to employers he would not go after them. Very similar to what Trump just did.

I don't compete with them for work. Trump supporters do. Deplorables. I want to take advantage of the cheap labor. White uneducated workers ask for too much. Especially in red states. At least Trump is running illegals out of blue cities. Thanks Trump. Now our stupid Americans in blue cities don't have to compete with them.

I've told you this for years and now you see I am right. It's these corporations that lure them in. We didn't flood the country with them.

Let me give you an example. Bush in the 2000's flooded the country with them as he was leading us into his Great Recession. Back when we had high unemployment. Now that was the right time to complain about illegals. But the last 4 years we are at zero unemployment. Everyone who wanted a job could find one. But the issue resonated with deplorables and now Trump is letting them down because if you going to allow illegals in red state hotels, farms and restaurants, you can't stop them from coming to our big blue cities.

Let me know when you wake up and realize you've been duped by Trump. Not yet?

It has gone on for years, but it was kicked into high gear when Biden literally invited them to "surge to the border".

And please remember, Republicans are NOT the ones who literally fight in the street to stop the LEGAL enforcement of our immigration laws!

Republicans are NOT the ones who create sanctuary cities and states!

Republicans are NOT the ones who run to court every ******* time to stop illegals from being deported!

Republicans are NOT the ones who create government tax payer benefits like free healthcare, like in California!

 

[Winco]

Like all Dims you rush in and deflect any criticism of illegal immigration. That's the standard of guys, whatever the issue is regarding illegals being here.

Not true at all.
Illegal Immigration is wrong, and the system is broke, thanks to 'do nothing Congress.'

The health care killer and this killer should face the death penalty.
Illegals that commit murder should also face the death penalty.

How is this ^^^^ confusing for you?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Not true at all.
Illegal Immigration is wrong, and the system is broke, thanks to 'do nothing Congress.'

The health care killer and this killer should face the death penalty.
Illegals that commit murder should also face the death penalty.

How is this ^^^^ confusing for you?

The "confusing" part, is what is it about illegal immigration that causes you guys to rush in and soften the situation, in this case a murder?

You can't just be disgusted that someone WHO SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, murdered or killed someone, you have to look for ways to lessen its impact, in this case the claim that illegals murder fewer people.

 

[tahuyaman]

Have you looked at the number of Americans Murdering Americans.

It's worth a Look.
No Murders are Justified, but emphasizing the Illegals committing Murder isn't going to make YOUR story seem like Illegals are committing the majority of Murders.
Just reporting the facts for you to look at.


Since January 1st, 2021, how many Americans have been murdered by Illegal Immigrants versus other Americans?

ChatGPT said:​

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Known Murders by Non‑Citizens (mostly illegal immigrants)​

According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) data, which tracks killings by non-citizens (primarily those who entered illegally):

• FY 2021: 60 homicides
• FY 2022: 62 homicides
• FY 2023: 29 homicides
• FY 2024 (to date): 14 homicides

Totaling approximately 165 murders from non‑citizens since October 1, 2020 – covering Jan 2021 to the presentwjno.iheart.comnewsweek.com.

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Total U.S. Murders Since 2021​

The FBI reports around 21,000 homicides per year in the U.S. Breaking it down:

• 2021: ~21,570 murders
• 2022–2023: similar levels

That sums to roughly 64,000 total murders for 2021–2023, plus additional for 2024 so far.

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Estimated Murders by “Other Americans”​

Subtracting the ~165 non-citizen murders from the total, nearly all other homicides (~64,000+) were committed by U.S. citizens during the same period.

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What We Can Conclude​

Group	Known Murders since Jan 2021
Illegal/Non‑citizens	~165
All other Americans	~64,000+

Non-citizen-perpetrated murders account for far less than 1% of U.S. homicides since 2021.

So violent crimes committed by American citizens justifies tolerating illegal aliens?

 

[Winco]

So violent crimes committed by American citizens justifies tolerating illegal aliens?

Why do you keep making shit up.

If that's how YOU feel, then say it in a quote.
Otherwise, quit paraphrasing my words.

Again, ALL murder of Human Beings is Wrong.
I'm not tolerating ANY murder of ANY Human Being.
War, by definition, is gonna involving Killing.

 

[tahuyaman]

Why do you keep making shit up.

If that's how YOU feel, then say it in a quote.
Otherwise, quit paraphrasing my words.

Again, ALL murder of Human Beings is Wrong.
I'm not tolerating ANY murder of ANY Human Being.
War, by definition, is gonna involving Killing.

Did you notice the question mark after my comment? That means I was looking for clarification, not parsing words.


Now, why do liberals always default to complaining about American citizens committing violent acts when the issue of violent aliens is addressed?

 

[MarathonMike]

For years, decades in fact, they were my neighbors. They were burrowed into ever place Hispanics lived. They were my neighbors, coworkers, associates, fellow shoppers at the grocery store, we went to the movies, bunches of us. Living out ordinary lives. Except their parties ended in gunfire. Men would fashion romantic notions about little girls and rape them. The criminals were invariably here illegally and hidden by their people. One carjacked me on a Sunday afternoon.

Don't try to tell us how law abiding illegals are. We already know.

Most of them are, but with 20 million plus in the country even a small percentage is a big number of dangerous people.

 

[Lisa558]

Most of them are, but with 20 million plus in the country even a small percentage is a big number of dangerous people.

Yup….even if 95% are not criminals, that leaves 5% who are - or 400,000 violent illegals roaming the streets.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Most of them are, but with 20 million plus in the country even a small percentage is a big number of dangerous people.

If they aren't illegal they hide friends and relatives who are.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Your party are the ones that flooded the country with them, and fights to keep them here, so don't be surprised if they get taken advantage of.

Both parties are at fault, as you well know. In 2005 and 2024, the GOP screwed two good bills for controlling the problem and rectifying the errors.

 

[tahuyaman]

Both parties are at fault, as you well know. In 2005 and 2024, the GOP screwed two good bills for controlling the problem and rectifying the errors.

Those bills were a sham. They said ICE was only allowed to respond when something like 7,000 people crossed the border illegally over a certain period of time.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Those bills were a sham. They said ICE was only allowed to respond when something like 7,000 people crossed the border illegally over a certain period of time.

Those bills were anything but a sham. Your comment is a sham. We need to solve the problem. Trump had the political power to destroy the bill last year, and he is trying to solve it with mass forced deportations. Seems to be that he is off to a better start than many supposed. My only irk in any of this, is that due process has been ignored too much of the time.

I mean I would give even MAGA due process.

 

[tahuyaman]

Those bills were anything but a sham. Your comment is a sham. We need to solve the problem. Trump had the political power to destroy the bill last year, and he is trying to solve it with mass forced deportations. Seems to be that he is off to a better start than many supposed. My only irk in any of this, is that due process has been ignored too much of the time.

I mean I would give even MAGA due process.

They were a sham.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

They were a sham.

Those with faulty reasoning powers may believe they were a sham.

 

[tahuyaman]

Those with faulty reasoning powers may believe they were a sham.

It gave ICE the authority to act only after 5 to 7,000 people crossed the border illegally. It did not require ICE act. Only allow.

It was a sham that did nothing

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It gave ICE the authority to act only after 5 to 7,000 people crossed the border illegally. It did not require ICE act. Only allow.

It was a sham that did nothing

No, it was not.

 

[Lisa558]

It gave ICE the authority to act only after 5 to 7,000 people crossed the border illegally. It did not require ICE act. Only allow.

It was a sham that did nothing

They should have called it the “Get 150,000 Illegals into the Country every month” bill.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Illegal aliens, per capita, commit fewer crimes including violent ones than citizens.

That would be impossible as the/your designation of "illegal aliens" puts their per capita crime rate at 100%