Another Fifth Column Judge, Fernandez Rodriguez, subverts the legislative intent of the Alien Enemies Act

[Rawley]

The AEA is very specifically worded.

It says "declared war".

It also says "or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government"

I think they've made a good argument that these gangs are here at least with the blessing of Maduro, if not at his explicit direction.

I would prefer if President Trump invoked a different authority. He has plenty of them, at least half a dozen.

That being said, I agree we're figuratively "at war" with foreign gangs.

The thing is, in reality they're more domestic than they are foreign.

I don't think it's a great idea for the president to stretch the law in such an obvious manner. Even though I support what he's doing.

 

[White 6]

Due process for those who don’t follow our process?
That really makes sense to you Humberto?

Thread 'What about ‘due process’ for Americans on the front end? Are Democrats mad that alien enemies aren’t following the people’s process for entry?'

Apr 26, 2025

In many threads here libs have clearly expressed their disdain for the alleged lack of due process being extended by the Trump admin to alien enemies…Are there any threads or any lib news agencies expressing anger toward alien enemies for blatantly ignoring the people’s process?
If one ignores the process on the front should they really expect process on the back end?
WTF? Why is our system so broken and toothless?

• BrokeLoser
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Who do you want to skip due process for next, speeders, tax payers, blacks, whites, gun owners, cops. Skipping due process is the slippery slope to hell, and not what got us 250 plus years.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Who do you want to skip due process for next, speeders, tax payers, blacks, whites, gun owners, cops. Skipping due process is the slippery slope to hell, and not what got us 250 plus years.

Due process for enemy invaders?

 

[White 6]

Well, that's your opinion the actual law says otherwise

"Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government"

Which government is doing that? Maybe you should float a declaration of war through congress, like back in the days of Iran/Contra? Oh, wait, congress wouldn't go for, so government went the illegal route.

 

[Rawley]

Which government is doing that?

Venezuela

Maybe you should float a declaration of war through congress, like back in the days of Iran/Contra? Oh, wait, congress wouldn't go for, so government went the illegal route.

Don't need that, it specifically calls for a Proclamation by the President.

Invocation of the Alien Enemies Act Regarding the Invasion of The United States by Tren De Aragua

BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA A PROCLAMATION Tren de Aragua (TdA) is a designated Foreign Terrorist Organization with thousands of

www.whitehouse.gov

Again, you should probably read the statute before opining.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Who do you want to skip due process for next, speeders, tax payers, blacks, whites, gun owners, cops. Skipping due process is the slippery slope to hell, and not what got us 250 plus years.

Due process for citizens and those who adhere to the processes established by We The People. It’s not complicated for anyone looking out for America.

 

[johnwk]

It also says "or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government"

The AEA certainly does say or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government"

And when questions arise as to the meaning of the Act, the answer is to be found in the debates when the Act was being created.

 

[Frankenstein]

Nope. Just not planning to let it slowly be put in place with the frog-in-the-pot, slow heat slow boil implementation. This use of the act is not what prompted it's creation, nor it's intent. I'll take due process, thank you very much.

Cool, you and all of your liberal friends get together and pay for the lawyers, let them stay at your house, eat your food, and you pay for all of their medical bills, also you are responsible for any wrong doing while they await trial, you good with that!

 

[White 6]

Due process for enemy invaders?

If they were enemy invaders, they could be shot at the border, defending our sovereignty. It kind of depends on how you define enemy. Does that count students on student visas attending college, that took a large protest by teachers, fellow students, and community leaders to get a hearing and release, while on the list to be fast track deported? How about born and raised in Florida, complete with birth certificate arrested, even though his background could be known from his Florida Driver license? How about Native American Navajo, living off the reservation, that just happened to look Hispanic, so were gathered up? How about an American Citizen and veteran in New Jersey that was picked up? How about the Puerto Rican, seafood warehouse manager in New York, even though Puerto Rico is a US Territory?

 

[White 6]

Due process for citizens and those who adhere to the processes established by We The People. It’s not complicated for anyone looking out for America.

That is not what our constitution says, and you know it.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

If they were enemy invaders, they could be shot at the border, defending our sovereignty. It kind of depends on how you define enemy. Does that count students on student visas attending college, that took a large protest by teachers, fellow students, and community leaders to get a hearing and release, while on the list to be fast track deported? How about born and raised in Florida, complete with birth certificate arrested, even though his background could be known from his Florida Driver license? How about Native American Navajo, living off the reservation, that just happened to look Hispanic, so were gathered up? How about an American Citizen and veteran in New Jersey that was picked up? How about the Puerto Rican, seafood warehouse manager in New York, even though Puerto Rico is a US Territory?

People who enter through documented process are not invaders. People who sneak in are.
Duh.

 

[22lcidw]

Who do you want to skip due process for next, speeders, tax payers, blacks, whites, gun owners, cops. Skipping due process is the slippery slope to hell, and not what got us 250 plus years.

When Progressive Communist judges are purposely put into power that slippery slope already exists. At least two agendas Repulicans need. Neuter the judges and consider starting cursing like the Progs. Let us turn that Progressive "G" rated monument Insurrection structure into the ghetto it is. Progs even carry weapons inside it.

 

[BrokeLoser]

That is not what our constitution says, and you know it.

What if your great President found a workaround that was advantageous for your fellow countrymen?
Remember how pissed off you were about the Kenyan creating his own personal citizenship called DACA? Remember the mandatory jab you championed?

 

[BrokeLoser]

If they were enemy invaders, they could be shot at the border, defending our sovereignty. It kind of depends on how you define enemy. Does that count students on student visas attending college, that took a large protest by teachers, fellow students, and community leaders to get a hearing and release, while on the list to be fast track deported? How about born and raised in Florida, complete with birth certificate arrested, even though his background could be known from his Florida Driver license? How about Native American Navajo, living off the reservation, that just happened to look Hispanic, so were gathered up? How about an American Citizen and veteran in New Jersey that was picked up? How about the Puerto Rican, seafood warehouse manager in New York, even though Puerto Rico is a US Territory?

Stop all the bullshit word-games…save face and just say it…you want Americans fucked on some bullshit technicalities…you want our immigration laws toothless, you want to make sure there is no pathway or mechanism for deporting 50 million unwanted cockroaches.

 

[White 6]

Cool, you and all of your liberal friends get together and pay for the lawyers, let them stay at your house, eat your food, and you pay for all of their medical bills, also you are responsible for any wrong doing while they await trial, you good with that!

So, if specific Americans are not willing to house and feed lawyers, nobody is entitled to due process protection under the law and the constitution?
Why is that not what the conservative Supreme Court ruled? Or do you guys no longer recognize the Supreme Court as the supreme interpretation of law and the Constitution?

 

[toobfreak]

Oh, wow, that would have been worth an assault charge just to reverse roundhouse her right in the ignorant fucking face.

Maybe the slut does not realize she is obligated to serve the public which includes addressing the media.

 

[White 6]

People who enter through documented process are not invaders. People who sneak in are.
Duh.

I can easily see kicking them out, but not sending to prison in a foreign country, without some kind of trial before a judge.

 

[MarathonMike]

All these Democrat "Whack a Mole" judges popping up and trying to dictate Federal policy are yet another CORRUPTION of the US court system by The Stalinist Democrats.

 

[toobfreak]

I can easily see kicking them out, but not sending to prison in a foreign country, without some kind of trial before a judge.

Well, A). The very act of sneaking into the country undocumented is a crime, a felony, so the innocence of the person has already been ruled out, so, a hearing over what?

And B). For your home country to lock you in prison, I would think charges or a conviction would already have to be in effect, either that or soon after incarceration. Sounds to me like Abrego Garcia needs to find an attorney.

 

[White 6]

Well, A). The very act of sneaking into the country undocumented is a crime, a felony, so the innocence of the person has already been ruled out, so, a hearing over what?

And B). For your home country to lock you in prison, I would think charges or a conviction would already have to be in effect, either that or soon after incarceration. Sounds to me like Abrego Garcia needs to find an attorney.

Misdemeanors don't get you sent to prison in civilized countries, and being a border jumping wetback is not a felony. I have not even seen it proposed in Congress to make it a felony. Quite honestly, though, I would not mind seeing it legally made a felony. It surprised me, that is was not. Proving it, would be a snap, and I do not give a sh#t what happens to felons, foreign or domestic, as long as they get a trial or hearing to prove they are innocent, if they in fact are.