Annexing West Bank

[AzogtheDefiler]

I agree up to a point, and that point is Israeli political right has also engineered a situation that contributes the the demise of a two state solution.

Agree that the Palestinians must accept a new reality. So must the Israeli’s. The Palestinians are going to conveniently go away and the status quo is both expensive to maintain and unsupportable long term in terms of human rights. Creating a multi tiered system of rights, freedoms and citizenship is not very sustainable for peace. I think Israel’s new National Law is problematic as well.

Probably some form of federation is what is needed

Some form of relocation...50+ mostly Islamic countries only one Jewish one.

In fact if the money and diplomatic support were available, large numbers of Palestinians would leave today.

Would they if diplomatic opportunities and economic support were instead used to improve the local economies? The embargo ended?

What “large numbers” want to leave?

What people don’t seem capable of understanding is that just because a country is Islamic it is culturally similar.

America and Russia are Christian majority, as is Germany and Greece. I guess they are all the same huh?

Percentage of those wishing to emigrate stands at 41% in the Gaza Strip and 24% in the West Bank.

Palestinian Public Opinion Poll No-58 | PCPSR

Gaza is being destroyed between Israel’s embargo and Hamas’ malfeasance, the economy is a wreck. I think they would not want to leAve if they had a better future.

Life was rough for Jews in the old Soviet Union. They didn’t commit acts of terror and whine. They either assimilated or left. Same true for many Irish, Italians, Asians, etc. Why is immigration not the answer?

 

[Coyote]

The only real problem the Palestinians have is that they are cut off from reality. The slim possibility there could ever be a Palestinian state ended with the second intifada, and now because of their refusal to negotiate realistically, they no longer have any voice in what happens to area C. Their continued violence and refusal to negotiate realistically, has so eroded Israeli support for the support of a two state solution that now the chief proponent of two states, the Labor Party, is on the verge of disappearing. The only way the Palestinians can improve their quality of life and the futures of their children is to accept this reality they have created and learn to live peacefully within the framework laid out by Israel. What's past is past and will never come again.

I agree up to a point, and that point is Israeli political right has also engineered a situation that contributes the the demise of a two state solution.

Agree that the Palestinians must accept a new reality. So must the Israeli’s. The Palestinians are going to conveniently go away and the status quo is both expensive to maintain and unsupportable long term in terms of human rights. Creating a multi tiered system of rights, freedoms and citizenship is not very sustainable for peace. I think Israel’s new National Law is problematic as well.

Probably some form of federation is what is needed

Some form of relocation...50+ mostly Islamic countries only one Jewish one.

In fact if the money and diplomatic support were available, large numbers of Palestinians would leave today.

Would they if diplomatic opportunities and economic support were instead used to improve the local economies? The embargo ended?

What “large numbers” want to leave?

What people don’t seem capable of understanding is that just because a country is Islamic it is culturally similar.

America and Russia are Christian majority, as is Germany and Greece. I guess they are all the same huh?

US policy = don’t negotiate with Terrorists. “Palestine” is run by Terrorists. What’s good for the US is good for Israel.

What is good for Israel is not necessarily good for us. We are two different countries with different priorities. People seem to forget that.

 

[Coyote]

Jerusalem was the religious, economic, and cultural center if the West Bank.

Virtually all cities and villages have lost some or all of their land to Area C. For example: Bethlehem has lost all but 18% of its land. Where is the space for residential, industrial, and agricultural zones?

Trump's "deal of the century."

• The Palestinians will live in bantustans cut off from the resources needed to develop an economy.
• All travel, trade, and tourism would have to pass through Israel.
• All imports and exports would have to pass through Israel.
• Israeli factories will be placed along the wall. Palestinians who pass background checks can get permits to get low level employment. These factories would not be "in Palestine" so they would not be subject to Palestinian laws, unions, or taxes.

The only real problem the Palestinians have is that they are cut off from reality. The slim possibility there could ever be a Palestinian state ended with the second intifada, and now because of their refusal to negotiate realistically, they no longer have any voice in what happens to area C. Their continued violence and refusal to negotiate realistically, has so eroded Israeli support for the support of a two state solution that now the chief proponent of two states, the Labor Party, is on the verge of disappearing. The only way the Palestinians can improve their quality of life and the futures of their children is to accept this reality they have created and learn to live peacefully within the framework laid out by Israel. What's past is past and will never come again.

I agree up to a point, and that point is Israeli political right has also engineered a situation that contributes the the demise of a two state solution.

Agree that the Palestinians must accept a new reality. So must the Israeli’s. The Palestinians are going to conveniently go away and the status quo is both expensive to maintain and unsupportable long term in terms of human rights. Creating a multi tiered system of rights, freedoms and citizenship is not very sustainable for peace. I think Israel’s new National Law is problematic as well.

Probably some form of federation is what is needed

Worrying that the two state delusion may not be possible is like worrying that the dinosaurs may become extinct. The reality is that the Palestians are free to govern themselves in area A and B and carrying out 95% of the functions of a sovereign state, but there is no political entity among the Palestinians that can credibly offer peace to Israel, so there can not be a Palestinian state and Israeli security forces will continue to operate throughout Judea and Samaria.

The Palestinians destroyed the confidence of Israelis in a peaceful two state solution with the second intifada, although it took a few years before some Israelis realized it, and today, there is no right or left on this issue - the left destroyed itself by hanging on to the two state delusion long after most Israelis realized it was not possible - and today few in Israel object in principle to annexing the Israeli settlements in Judea and Samaria but while some have confidence to do it right away, others are anxious about what the result will be.

It wasn’t just the Palestinians that destroyed confidence in a two state solution.

No, it was entirely the Palestinians. In the midst of negotiations, they launched the second intifada and since they have again and again refused to negotiate with Israel.

You forget the never ending settlement construction.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The only real problem the Palestinians have is that they are cut off from reality. The slim possibility there could ever be a Palestinian state ended with the second intifada, and now because of their refusal to negotiate realistically, they no longer have any voice in what happens to area C. Their continued violence and refusal to negotiate realistically, has so eroded Israeli support for the support of a two state solution that now the chief proponent of two states, the Labor Party, is on the verge of disappearing. The only way the Palestinians can improve their quality of life and the futures of their children is to accept this reality they have created and learn to live peacefully within the framework laid out by Israel. What's past is past and will never come again.

I agree up to a point, and that point is Israeli political right has also engineered a situation that contributes the the demise of a two state solution.

Agree that the Palestinians must accept a new reality. So must the Israeli’s. The Palestinians are going to conveniently go away and the status quo is both expensive to maintain and unsupportable long term in terms of human rights. Creating a multi tiered system of rights, freedoms and citizenship is not very sustainable for peace. I think Israel’s new National Law is problematic as well.

Probably some form of federation is what is needed

Worrying that the two state delusion may not be possible is like worrying that the dinosaurs may become extinct. The reality is that the Palestians are free to govern themselves in area A and B and carrying out 95% of the functions of a sovereign state, but there is no political entity among the Palestinians that can credibly offer peace to Israel, so there can not be a Palestinian state and Israeli security forces will continue to operate throughout Judea and Samaria.

The Palestinians destroyed the confidence of Israelis in a peaceful two state solution with the second intifada, although it took a few years before some Israelis realized it, and today, there is no right or left on this issue - the left destroyed itself by hanging on to the two state delusion long after most Israelis realized it was not possible - and today few in Israel object in principle to annexing the Israeli settlements in Judea and Samaria but while some have confidence to do it right away, others are anxious about what the result will be.

It wasn’t just the Palestinians that destroyed confidence in a two state solution.

Why would the world want another mostly Islamic country? You cannot name one that shares Western values of humanity that is mostly Muslim? Please explain that one.

Why would I care? I don’t much like any strongly religious countries. The more fundamentalist the worse it is for women, human rights, religious freedoms.

You just made my point. So it’s best to not have a two state solution. Thank you. It’s best to displace most of the “Palestinians” and have Israel annex all of the West Bank and Gaza for itself.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I agree up to a point, and that point is Israeli political right has also engineered a situation that contributes the the demise of a two state solution.

Agree that the Palestinians must accept a new reality. So must the Israeli’s. The Palestinians are going to conveniently go away and the status quo is both expensive to maintain and unsupportable long term in terms of human rights. Creating a multi tiered system of rights, freedoms and citizenship is not very sustainable for peace. I think Israel’s new National Law is problematic as well.

Probably some form of federation is what is needed

Some form of relocation...50+ mostly Islamic countries only one Jewish one.

In fact if the money and diplomatic support were available, large numbers of Palestinians would leave today.

Would they if diplomatic opportunities and economic support were instead used to improve the local economies? The embargo ended?

What “large numbers” want to leave?

What people don’t seem capable of understanding is that just because a country is Islamic it is culturally similar.

America and Russia are Christian majority, as is Germany and Greece. I guess they are all the same huh?

Percentage of those wishing to emigrate stands at 41% in the Gaza Strip and 24% in the West Bank.

Palestinian Public Opinion Poll No-58 | PCPSR

Gaza is being destroyed between Israel’s embargo and Hamas’ malfeasance, the economy is a wreck. I think they would not want to leAve if they had a better future.

Israel has offered to lift the blockade if Hamas disarms, so the Palestinians have created their own problems.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I agree up to a point, and that point is Israeli political right has also engineered a situation that contributes the the demise of a two state solution.

Agree that the Palestinians must accept a new reality. So must the Israeli’s. The Palestinians are going to conveniently go away and the status quo is both expensive to maintain and unsupportable long term in terms of human rights. Creating a multi tiered system of rights, freedoms and citizenship is not very sustainable for peace. I think Israel’s new National Law is problematic as well.

Probably some form of federation is what is needed

Some form of relocation...50+ mostly Islamic countries only one Jewish one.

In fact if the money and diplomatic support were available, large numbers of Palestinians would leave today.

Would they if diplomatic opportunities and economic support were instead used to improve the local economies? The embargo ended?

What “large numbers” want to leave?

What people don’t seem capable of understanding is that just because a country is Islamic it is culturally similar.

America and Russia are Christian majority, as is Germany and Greece. I guess they are all the same huh?

US policy = don’t negotiate with Terrorists. “Palestine” is run by Terrorists. What’s good for the US is good for Israel.

What is good for Israel is not necessarily good for us. We are two different countries with different priorities. People seem to forget that.

We are both Republics with strong human rights laws and ideals. We are allies. Israel is the only country in the ME that actually holds elections. Safest place for a Muslim woman in the ME is in Israel. Free press, free speech, freedom of religion, freedom of sexual preference, etc. We share those values with Israel. No Muslim country does. Not one. Yet you and people like you just gloss over it. Why?

 

[Coyote]

I agree up to a point, and that point is Israeli political right has also engineered a situation that contributes the the demise of a two state solution.

Agree that the Palestinians must accept a new reality. So must the Israeli’s. The Palestinians are going to conveniently go away and the status quo is both expensive to maintain and unsupportable long term in terms of human rights. Creating a multi tiered system of rights, freedoms and citizenship is not very sustainable for peace. I think Israel’s new National Law is problematic as well.

Probably some form of federation is what is needed

Worrying that the two state delusion may not be possible is like worrying that the dinosaurs may become extinct. The reality is that the Palestians are free to govern themselves in area A and B and carrying out 95% of the functions of a sovereign state, but there is no political entity among the Palestinians that can credibly offer peace to Israel, so there can not be a Palestinian state and Israeli security forces will continue to operate throughout Judea and Samaria.

The Palestinians destroyed the confidence of Israelis in a peaceful two state solution with the second intifada, although it took a few years before some Israelis realized it, and today, there is no right or left on this issue - the left destroyed itself by hanging on to the two state delusion long after most Israelis realized it was not possible - and today few in Israel object in principle to annexing the Israeli settlements in Judea and Samaria but while some have confidence to do it right away, others are anxious about what the result will be.

It wasn’t just the Palestinians that destroyed confidence in a two state solution.

Why would the world want another mostly Islamic country? You cannot name one that shares Western values of humanity that is mostly Muslim? Please explain that one.

Why would I care? I don’t much like any strongly religious countries. The more fundamentalist the worse it is for women, human rights, religious freedoms.

You just made my point. So it’s best to not have a two state solution. Thank you. It’s best to displace most of the “Palestinians” and have Israel annex all of the West Bank and Gaza for itself.

Israel is a strongly religious country. Displace no one. Once you go down that road you are no different than other monsters.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Some form of relocation...50+ mostly Islamic countries only one Jewish one.

In fact if the money and diplomatic support were available, large numbers of Palestinians would leave today.

Would they if diplomatic opportunities and economic support were instead used to improve the local economies? The embargo ended?

What “large numbers” want to leave?

What people don’t seem capable of understanding is that just because a country is Islamic it is culturally similar.

America and Russia are Christian majority, as is Germany and Greece. I guess they are all the same huh?

Percentage of those wishing to emigrate stands at 41% in the Gaza Strip and 24% in the West Bank.

Palestinian Public Opinion Poll No-58 | PCPSR

Gaza is being destroyed between Israel’s embargo and Hamas’ malfeasance, the economy is a wreck. I think they would not want to leAve if they had a better future.

Israel has offered to lift the blockade if Hamas disarms, so the Palestinians have created their own problems.

Hamas the internationally recognized terror group, whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel and all Jews? That Hamas? LOL

Yeah they are real solid citizens.

 

[Coyote]

Some form of relocation...50+ mostly Islamic countries only one Jewish one.

In fact if the money and diplomatic support were available, large numbers of Palestinians would leave today.

Would they if diplomatic opportunities and economic support were instead used to improve the local economies? The embargo ended?

What “large numbers” want to leave?

What people don’t seem capable of understanding is that just because a country is Islamic it is culturally similar.

America and Russia are Christian majority, as is Germany and Greece. I guess they are all the same huh?

Percentage of those wishing to emigrate stands at 41% in the Gaza Strip and 24% in the West Bank.

Palestinian Public Opinion Poll No-58 | PCPSR

Gaza is being destroyed between Israel’s embargo and Hamas’ malfeasance, the economy is a wreck. I think they would not want to leAve if they had a better future.

Life was rough for Jews in the old Soviet Union. They didn’t commit acts of terror and whine. They either assimilated or left. Same true for many Irish, Italians, Asians, etc. Why is immigration not the answer?

Immigration is fine. When it is voluntary.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Worrying that the two state delusion may not be possible is like worrying that the dinosaurs may become extinct. The reality is that the Palestians are free to govern themselves in area A and B and carrying out 95% of the functions of a sovereign state, but there is no political entity among the Palestinians that can credibly offer peace to Israel, so there can not be a Palestinian state and Israeli security forces will continue to operate throughout Judea and Samaria.

The Palestinians destroyed the confidence of Israelis in a peaceful two state solution with the second intifada, although it took a few years before some Israelis realized it, and today, there is no right or left on this issue - the left destroyed itself by hanging on to the two state delusion long after most Israelis realized it was not possible - and today few in Israel object in principle to annexing the Israeli settlements in Judea and Samaria but while some have confidence to do it right away, others are anxious about what the result will be.

It wasn’t just the Palestinians that destroyed confidence in a two state solution.

Why would the world want another mostly Islamic country? You cannot name one that shares Western values of humanity that is mostly Muslim? Please explain that one.

Why would I care? I don’t much like any strongly religious countries. The more fundamentalist the worse it is for women, human rights, religious freedoms.

You just made my point. So it’s best to not have a two state solution. Thank you. It’s best to displace most of the “Palestinians” and have Israel annex all of the West Bank and Gaza for itself.

Israel is a strongly religious country. Displace no one. Once you go down that road you are no different than other monsters.

Yes and their politeness is costing them. Israel is most kind and tolerant. If Mexico treated the US how the “Palestinians” treat Israel we would have eviscerated Mexico by now. Most tolerant are my people and to their own detriment IMO.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

In fact if the money and diplomatic support were available, large numbers of Palestinians would leave today.

Would they if diplomatic opportunities and economic support were instead used to improve the local economies? The embargo ended?

What “large numbers” want to leave?

What people don’t seem capable of understanding is that just because a country is Islamic it is culturally similar.

America and Russia are Christian majority, as is Germany and Greece. I guess they are all the same huh?

Percentage of those wishing to emigrate stands at 41% in the Gaza Strip and 24% in the West Bank.

Palestinian Public Opinion Poll No-58 | PCPSR

Gaza is being destroyed between Israel’s embargo and Hamas’ malfeasance, the economy is a wreck. I think they would not want to leAve if they had a better future.

Life was rough for Jews in the old Soviet Union. They didn’t commit acts of terror and whine. They either assimilated or left. Same true for many Irish, Italians, Asians, etc. Why is immigration not the answer?

Immigration is fine. When it is voluntary.

Sounds like it would be for 40% or so? If they leave many would follow. My parents didn’t necessarily want to leave but life was very difficult so they took a gamble. They didn’t ask for handouts and whine like the “Palestinians” do.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Worrying that the two state delusion may not be possible is like worrying that the dinosaurs may become extinct. The reality is that the Palestians are free to govern themselves in area A and B and carrying out 95% of the functions of a sovereign state, but there is no political entity among the Palestinians that can credibly offer peace to Israel, so there can not be a Palestinian state and Israeli security forces will continue to operate throughout Judea and Samaria.

The Palestinians destroyed the confidence of Israelis in a peaceful two state solution with the second intifada, although it took a few years before some Israelis realized it, and today, there is no right or left on this issue - the left destroyed itself by hanging on to the two state delusion long after most Israelis realized it was not possible - and today few in Israel object in principle to annexing the Israeli settlements in Judea and Samaria but while some have confidence to do it right away, others are anxious about what the result will be.

It wasn’t just the Palestinians that destroyed confidence in a two state solution.

Why would the world want another mostly Islamic country? You cannot name one that shares Western values of humanity that is mostly Muslim? Please explain that one.

Why would I care? I don’t much like any strongly religious countries. The more fundamentalist the worse it is for women, human rights, religious freedoms.

You just made my point. So it’s best to not have a two state solution. Thank you. It’s best to displace most of the “Palestinians” and have Israel annex all of the West Bank and Gaza for itself.

Israel is a strongly religious country. Displace no one. Once you go down that road you are no different than other monsters.

Israel is probably no more religious than the US but is clearly more religious than some European countries.

 

[toomuchtime_]

In fact if the money and diplomatic support were available, large numbers of Palestinians would leave today.

Would they if diplomatic opportunities and economic support were instead used to improve the local economies? The embargo ended?

What “large numbers” want to leave?

What people don’t seem capable of understanding is that just because a country is Islamic it is culturally similar.

America and Russia are Christian majority, as is Germany and Greece. I guess they are all the same huh?

Percentage of those wishing to emigrate stands at 41% in the Gaza Strip and 24% in the West Bank.

Palestinian Public Opinion Poll No-58 | PCPSR

Gaza is being destroyed between Israel’s embargo and Hamas’ malfeasance, the economy is a wreck. I think they would not want to leAve if they had a better future.

Israel has offered to lift the blockade if Hamas disarms, so the Palestinians have created their own problems.

Hamas the internationally recognized terror group, whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel and all Jews? That Hamas? LOL

Yeah they are real solid citizens.

Hamas was created by the Palestinian people and it is up to them to take back control of Gaza if they want the benefits of peace.

 

[Shusha]

True. Not all economies are based on having agricultural land but having some land and resources is pretty damn important for viability.

32 countries with territory smaller than the West Bank.

Why should Israel take it all?

Where have I ever suggested Israel take it all?

If a contiguous border is possible ... already they have extreme difficulty accessing different parts of their farms or between home and work because it is so chopped up. [/quote]
Even if that's true, and I'm not at all convinced. Again. Normalization and a proper contiguous border between two states will fix that. So what's the problem?

I think, and this is my opinion only, that if Israel isn’t careful it WILL look like Bantustans with Palestinians relegated to small resource poor enclaves.

Of course, everyone is going to call it Bantustans, no matter how ridiculous that claim is. Because ... Israel.

But here's the thing. Israel can realistically only do one of two things with respect to Arab Palestinian sovereignty. 1. Abandon territory to Arab Palestinian self-determination or 2. Assert Israeli sovereignty over 4 million hostile Arab Palestinians. (Actually there is a third option here, but it unconscionable.)

The first creates a significant security problem. The second creates a significant security problem AND ends Jewish self-determination. There is no decision as to which of the options Israel has to choose.

The only question is how much territory to abandon. My answer is that you abandon the least possible amount of territory while incorporating the absolute fewest numbers of hostile Arab Palestinians as Israeli citizens, while protecting every single Israeli citizen. Then you just contain the problem. Its the only reasonable option.

Eventually, as with Gaza, they will implode by their own failures. Is it pretty? Not at all. Is it Israel's responsibility? Not in the slightest. You can't force a people supposedly seeking self-determination to act responsibly toward that goal. Clearly. Arabs Palestinians have been failing for 100 years.

 

[Shusha]

Gaza is being destroyed between Israel’s embargo and Hamas’ malfeasance, the economy is a wreck. I think they would not want to leAve if they had a better future.

And how do they get a better future? What do they need to do to achieve a better future?

 

[Shusha]

Jerusalem was the religious, economic, and cultural center if the West Bank.

Virtually all cities and villages have lost some or all of their land to Area C. For example: Bethlehem has lost all but 18% of its land. Where is the space for residential, industrial, and agricultural zones?

Trump's "deal of the century."

• The Palestinians will live in bantustans cut off from the resources needed to develop an economy.
• All travel, trade, and tourism would have to pass through Israel.
• All imports and exports would have to pass through Israel.
• Israeli factories will be placed along the wall. Palestinians who pass background checks can get permits to get low level employment. These factories would not be "in Palestine" so they would not be subject to Palestinian laws, unions, or taxes.

The only real problem the Palestinians have is that they are cut off from reality. The slim possibility there could ever be a Palestinian state ended with the second intifada, and now because of their refusal to negotiate realistically, they no longer have any voice in what happens to area C. Their continued violence and refusal to negotiate realistically, has so eroded Israeli support for the support of a two state solution that now the chief proponent of two states, the Labor Party, is on the verge of disappearing. The only way the Palestinians can improve their quality of life and the futures of their children is to accept this reality they have created and learn to live peacefully within the framework laid out by Israel. What's past is past and will never come again.

I agree up to a point, and that point is Israeli political right has also engineered a situation that contributes the the demise of a two state solution.

Agree that the Palestinians must accept a new reality. So must the Israeli’s. The Palestinians are going to conveniently go away and the status quo is both expensive to maintain and unsupportable long term in terms of human rights. Creating a multi tiered system of rights, freedoms and citizenship is not very sustainable for peace. I think Israel’s new National Law is problematic as well.

Probably some form of federation is what is needed

Worrying that the two state delusion may not be possible is like worrying that the dinosaurs may become extinct. The reality is that the Palestians are free to govern themselves in area A and B and carrying out 95% of the functions of a sovereign state, but there is no political entity among the Palestinians that can credibly offer peace to Israel, so there can not be a Palestinian state and Israeli security forces will continue to operate throughout Judea and Samaria.

The Palestinians destroyed the confidence of Israelis in a peaceful two state solution with the second intifada, although it took a few years before some Israelis realized it, and today, there is no right or left on this issue - the left destroyed itself by hanging on to the two state delusion long after most Israelis realized it was not possible - and today few in Israel object in principle to annexing the Israeli settlements in Judea and Samaria but while some have confidence to do it right away, others are anxious about what the result will be.

It wasn’t just the Palestinians that destroyed confidence in a two state solution.

No, it was entirely the Palestinians. In the midst of negotiations, they launched the second intifada and since they have again and again refused to negotiate with Israel.

I agree.

Coyote is trying to argue that if wife would just make dinner the right way, husband would stop beating her. Nope. Husband needs to stop beating her.

 

[Shusha]

You forget the never ending settlement construction.

The presence of Jews in territory is only an impediment to peace and a two state solution if you reject the idea of Jews being present in an eventual Palestine. Sounds like apartheid to me.

 

[Shusha]

Displace no one. Once you go down that road you are no different than other monsters.

Good. So we can get rid of this ridiculous notion that the "settlements" will be dismantled, right?

That leaves Arab Palestine with the choice to either abandon territory (because ... Jooooos live there). Or to accept Jews into their territory.

Do you see a problem with requiring this choice of the Arabs?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Annexing West Bank
⁜→ Coyote, et al,

"There are no secrets to success.
It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure."
Colin Powell
​

Read more at: Search Results

Right now, the face or → how we see and interpret the cultural image of the Arab Palestinian (of the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip) is characterized (nation-state personality) as a belligerent Arab Subculture with a very deep propensity for violence. Many people, just on hearing the name "Palestinian" are struck by an uneasiness. For many people conjures a mental picture. In your computer, query the name "Palestinian" and ask for images.

Query for Images - down to "Palestinian Terrorist" and you will see:

◈ Palestinian Terrorist •​

◈ HAMAS •​

◈ FATAH •
​

(COMMENT)
It is Israel's problem. And the Israelis have to solve it. It is possible and I have suggested it many times. But the Israelis must really want to change the face of the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip.

That is an interesting statement, what do you mean by it?

(COMMENT)

Everyone understands that to change the image of the Arab Palestinians of the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip; requires a sincere (and maybe a very expensive) effort from both Israel and the Palestinians. And being that the Israelis are much higher on the scale for Human Development, initially (at least - probably a little longer) they will have to commit to the Lions share of the effort (Posting #148).

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Annexing West Bank
⁜→ Coyote, et al,

"There are no secrets to success.
It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure."
Colin Powell
​

Read more at: Search Results

Right now, the face or → how we see and interpret the cultural image of the Arab Palestinian (of the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip) is characterized (nation-state personality) as a belligerent Arab Subculture with a very deep propensity for violence. Many people, just on hearing the name "Palestinian" are struck by an uneasiness. For many people conjures a mental picture. In your computer, query the name "Palestinian" and ask for images.

Query for Images - down to "Palestinian Terrorist" and you will see:

◈ Palestinian Terrorist •​

◈ HAMAS •​

◈ FATAH •
​

(COMMENT)
It is Israel's problem. And the Israelis have to solve it. It is possible and I have suggested it many times. But the Israelis must really want to change the face of the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip.

That is an interesting statement, what do you mean by it?

(COMMENT)

Everyone understands that to change the image of the Arab Palestinians of the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip; requires a sincere (and maybe a very expensive) effort from both Israel and the Palestinians. And being that the Israelis are much higher on the scale for Human Development, initially (at least - probably a little longer) they will have to commit to the Lions share of the effort (Posting #148).

Most Respectfully,
R

Your usual smear piece.