And so it begins.

[berg80]

Wrong.

You believe it's wrong, but you have no evidence on which to base your belief. For trumples, his prosecution is by definition corrupt because you just can't acknowledge his criminality.

 

[sparky]

To be clear, if DoJ employees try to block legal and ethical policy goals firing them is appropriate.

didn't we just read the constitutionality mitigating invasion as a legal requirement Berg ~S~

 

[justoffal]

You believe it's wrong, but you have no evidence on which to base your belief. For trumples, his prosecution is by definition corrupt because you just can't acknowledge his criminality.

People are intelligent enough to parse between criminality and persecution.... Notice I said persecution not prosecution.

The overwhelming impression that Trump would never have been prosecuted if he was a Democrat is something that cannot be strained away from this situation.

There are enough laws between the states and the federal government to prosecute anybody for anything at any time. We're not talking about murder or grand theft... were talking about penny ante bullshit that was over leveraged and overplayed quite obviously.

Most people are not looking at the technical aspect of right and wrong since those definitions are so fluid from venue to venue.... they're looking at the application as being selective and politically motivated and they are absolutely correct about that.

 

[berg80]

Not according to the court, it was illegal from the get go, he was illegally given the position

That slight of hand ignores it was trump sock puppet A. Cannon who made the ruling. A ruling that was appealed.

 

[Independent thinker]

Trump transition figure warns DOJ lawyers: Get on board or get out

A conservative lawyer working on Donald Trump’s transition, Mark Paoletta, offered a stark warning to career Justice Department lawyers Monday that those who refuse to advance Trump’s agenda should resign or face the possibility of being fired.

“Once the decision is made to move forward, career employees are required to implement the President’s plan,” Paoletta wrote in a post on X responding to a POLITICO story detailing widespread fear among DOJ lawyers about being asked to advance or defend policies they consider unethical or illegal.

“If these career DOJ employees won’t implement President Trump’s program in good faith, they should leave,” Paoletta said. “Those employees who engage in so-called ‘resistance’ against the duly-elected President’s lawful agenda would be subverting American democracy (or upholding it). … [t]hose that take such actions would be subject to disciplinary measures, including termination.”

Paoletta recited a laundry list of Trump goals, including mass deportations, ending birthright citizenship, issuing pardons and commutations to Jan. 6 defendants, reversing “lawfare and persecution of political opponents,” and “holding accountable those who weaponized their government authority to abuse Americans.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updat...-paoletta-justice-department-lawyers-00188772

Let's begin with this, trump's goal coming in to the start of his admin is to purge the government of those viewed to be disloyal. This has been well advertised.

Now consider the ACLU plans to challenge the legality of trump using the law he plans to use to facilitate mass deportations.

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/i-heard-an-interesting-interview-with-the-head-of-the-aclu-yesterday.1134492/#post-35690588

If members of the DoJ agree with the ACLU's position, will they be fired before the matter can be adjudicated? Because it seems to me the admin is already looking for a pretense to fire people opposed to their policies...........policies which may be illegal.

In his first admin a number of high ranking DoJ officials said they world resign if Jeff Clark was made acting AG. No such officials will be part of the new admin if trump has his way.

To be clear, if DoJ employees try to block legal and ethical policy goals firing them is appropriate.

Well, they were already on board with team Biden so if that is still their position then they should get out. The deep state, AKA the resistance, needs to go.

 

[berg80]

The overwhelming impression that Trump would never have been prosecuted if he was a Democrat is something that cannot be strained away from this situation.

The overwhelming impression that trump would never have been prosecuted if he was a Democrat is something that is a fiction of trump's making. And it is only "overwhelming" inside the media bubble trump and RWM control.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Ironic, right. trump railed against the fictitious deep state and now he wants to create an actual one.

"Fictitious deep state".
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Poor Stalinberg80.
The People have spoken.
YOU and the DEEP STATE LOST, BIGLY.

 

[struth]

That slight of hand ignores it was trump sock puppet A. Cannon who made the ruling. A ruling that was appealed.

Haha sorry judges don’t actually work the way demafascist want them to

The law is the law. Illegally appointed

 

[berg80]

Well, they were already on board with team Biden so if that is still their position then they should get out. The deep state, AKA the resistance, needs to go.

As I said, if DoJ employees refuse to work on legal/ethical instructions they should be fired. The concern is they will be fired for doing legal/ethical things involving trump's prosecution.

 

[berg80]

Haha sorry judges don’t actually work the way demafascist want them to

Yes, some who trump appointed work the way he wants them to work regardless of the law.

 

[justoffal]

The overwhelming impression that trump would never have been prosecuted if he was a Democrat is something that is a fiction of trump's making. And it is only "overwhelming" inside the media bubble trump and RWM control.

Whether you think it's fiction or not is irrelevant... It is a predominant ideology that pervades the entire situation from a public standpoint. One might ask where are other Republicans in this army of prosecutorial soldiers? Oh that's right.... There aren't any.

 

[justoffal]

Yes, some who trump appointed work the way he wants them to work regardless of the law.

I don't know about that....
Numerous Trump appointees have voted against him over the past 4 years not only on the supreme Court but also throughout the federal judiciary.

 

[Independent thinker]

As I said, if DoJ employees refuse to work on legal/ethical instructions they should be fired. The concern is they will be fired for doing legal/ethical things involving trump's prosecution.

They abused their power for the sole political purpose of getting Trump. We aren't going to allow any resistance to remain. You either get with the program or you get out.

 

[berg80]

Whether you think it's fiction or not is irrelevant

Of course it's relevant, it's reality.

 

[berg80]

I don't know about that....
Numerous Trump appointees have voted against him over the past 4 years not only on the supreme Court but also throughout the federal judiciary.

That's why I said some.

 

[sparky]

The concern is they will be fired for doing legal/ethical things involving trump's prosecution.

lawfare is illegal and unethical Berg

~S~

 

[justoffal]

Yes, some who trump appointed work the way he wants them to work regardless of the law.

I don't know about that....
Numerous Trump appointees have voted against him over the past 4 years not only on the supreme Court but also throughout the federal judiciary

As I said, if DoJ employees refuse to work on legal/ethical instructions they should be fired. The concern is they will be fired for doing legal/ethical things involving trump's prosecution.

If revenge becomes a theme of Trump's reshaping of the DOJ There is no doubt in my mind that it will hit the wall. Even those members of the judiciary the consider themselves to be conservative Will Stop him.

On the other hand if the DOJ suddenly becomes a place wherein the employees suddenly find they can no longer serve lawful directives then it becomes incumbent upon them to admit they no longer belong there.

 

[berg80]

They abused their power for the sole political purpose of getting Trump.

That is a fiction created by trump in order to discredit legitimate prosecutions for illegal acts.

 

[berg80]

lawfare is illegal and unethical Berg

~S~

There was no lawfare, it's a vacuous talking point.

 

[sparky]

There was no lawfare, it's a vacuous talking point.

Obviously that depends on just what your definition of it is Berg

~S~