And so it begins.

[berg80]

Great news!!

IOW, go autocracy.

 

[berg80]

If they've violated their oaths of office, you damn skippy.

Good, that means Smith is safe from retribution.

 

[westwall]

Ironic, right. trump railed against the fictitious deep state and now he wants to create an actual one.

We elected Trump to dismantle it fool.

 

[daveman]

Here comes Project 2025.

PROJECT 2025 BOOGA BOOGA ITS GONNA GITCHA

 

[daveman]

Who could be against that?

Bureaucrats who are more loyal to the Democratic Party than to the United States.

 

[daveman]

Good, that means Smith is safe from retribution.

I know this will come as a shock to you, since you're a Democrat, but prosecuting criminals is not retribution.

 

[justoffal]

How is that different than any other administration?

It isn't different.... The first thing Obama did when he was elected was fire all of the DOJ lawyers...
And that was done with no warning.

 

[berg80]

Robert Wilke has been named to the transition team for the Pentagon. If that name doesn't ring a bell he was referred to the DoJ for criminal investigation when he was the head of the VA in trump's first term. All the best people.

 

[westwall]

Robert Wilke has been named to the transition team for the Pentagon. If that name doesn't ring a bell he was referred to the DoJ for criminal investigation when he was the head of the VA in trump's first term. All the best people.

Better than your cackling loon!

 

[The Duke]

Trump transition figure warns DOJ lawyers: Get on board or get out

A conservative lawyer working on Donald Trump’s transition, Mark Paoletta, offered a stark warning to career Justice Department lawyers Monday that those who refuse to advance Trump’s agenda should resign or face the possibility of being fired.

“Once the decision is made to move forward, career employees are required to implement the President’s plan,” Paoletta wrote in a post on X responding to a POLITICO story detailing widespread fear among DOJ lawyers about being asked to advance or defend policies they consider unethical or illegal.

“If these career DOJ employees won’t implement President Trump’s program in good faith, they should leave,” Paoletta said. “Those employees who engage in so-called ‘resistance’ against the duly-elected President’s lawful agenda would be subverting American democracy (or upholding it). … [t]hose that take such actions would be subject to disciplinary measures, including termination.”

Paoletta recited a laundry list of Trump goals, including mass deportations, ending birthright citizenship, issuing pardons and commutations to Jan. 6 defendants, reversing “lawfare and persecution of political opponents,” and “holding accountable those who weaponized their government authority to abuse Americans.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updat...-paoletta-justice-department-lawyers-00188772

Let's begin with this, trump's goal coming in to the start of his admin is to purge the government of those viewed to be disloyal. This has been well advertised.

Now consider the ACLU plans to challenge the legality of trump using the law he plans to use to facilitate mass deportations.

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/i-heard-an-interesting-interview-with-the-head-of-the-aclu-yesterday.1134492/#post-35690588

If members of the DoJ agree with the ACLU's position, will they be fired before the matter can be adjudicated? Because it seems to me the admin is already looking for a pretense to fire people opposed to their policies...........policies which may be illegal.

In his first admin a number of high ranking DoJ officials said they world resign if Jeff Clark was made acting AG. No such officials will be part of the new admin if trump has his way.

To be clear, if DoJ employees try to block legal and ethical policy goals firing them is appropriate.

Whatever's got you so riled needs to keep being done, because obviously it's the right thing to do.

 

[marvin martian]

Robert Wilke has been named to the transition team for the Pentagon. If that name doesn't ring a bell he was referred to the DoJ for criminal investigation when he was the head of the VA in trump's first term. All the best people.

What happened with the investigation?

 

[berg80]

It isn't different.... The first thing Obama did when he was elected was fire all of the DOJ lawyers...
And that was done with no warning.

All prez's replace the US Attorneys at the beginning of their tenure. This isn't that. trump is setting up a pretense by which he can replace rank and file civil servants, some of whom are lawyers, who work for the DoJ.

 

[justoffal]

All prez's replace the US Attorneys at the beginning of their tenure. This isn't that. trump is setting up a pretense by which he can replace rank and file civil servants, some of whom are lawyers, who work for the DoJ.

Oh I see....Don't they have a union? If they do, firing them is not going to be easy.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Like this....

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/10/trump-return-justice-department-00188623

No other prez-elect had previously been indicted by the DoJ.

Shrugs no one with a brain gives a shit about the politically motivated charges

 

[struth]

Jack Smith prosecuted trump according to the law.

Not according to the court, it was illegal from the get go, he was illegally given the position

 

[bigrebnc1775]

All prez's replace the US Attorneys at the beginning of their tenure. This isn't that. trump is setting up a pretense by which he can replace rank and file civil servants, some of whom are lawyers, who work for the DoJ.

How many lawyers did Clinton fire when he took office?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Jack Smith prosecuted trump according to the law.

Wrong.

 

[berg80]

Shrugs no one with a brain gives a shit about the politically motivated charges

You know trump has promised politically motivated investigations of enemies, right?

 

[berg80]

How many lawyers did Clinton fire when he took office?

See post #74.

 

[justoffal]

How many lawyers did Clinton fire when he took office?

All of them