And now time for a message from Kamala

[JoeB131]

Official documentation from the Government... Okay, that's all everyone needs to know about you. You're a closed minded gnome. You want to die on a hill regardless of that hill. Fine, you do you.

What, you "trust" the government now.

Where's their evidence? You know, video of Wang dropping a vial and saying "Aiya!" (which is Mandarin for "Whoops!") Not some agency that wants to distract from their own failures by trying to deflect the blame back on China. I mean real ******* evidence.

When you get the video of Wang dropping the vial, get back to me.

Here's why anyone who tells me it's a lab leak is full of shit.

1) Why did the outbreak happen Seven miles away from the lab, across the Yangtze River? Are you really trying to tell me this virus ignored hundreds of thousands of people in dense residential areas to hit folks at the Wet market first?

2) If this was really a devious Chinese Bio-weapon, why wasn't it a hell of a lot more deadly? When you don't have an Orange Shitgibbon running your policy, Covid has a relatively low fatality rate.

So you have no evidence that China really did anything wrong. Probably the opposite, They did everything they could to contain it and gave the rest of the world plenty of warning this was a problem.

On the other hand, Trump was out there telling people to take quack cures and telling his nutter followers to show up at state capitols with guns to protest containment measures.

Conservatives: "Covid is an overhyped flu used by the Democrats to destroy the One True God, Donald Trump."
Also Conservatives: "Covid is a devious Chinese Bioweapon designed to destroy the One True God, Donald Trump."

 

[LibertyKid]

What, you "trust" the government now.

Where's their evidence? You know, video of Wang dropping a vial and saying "Aiya!" (which is Mandarin for "Whoops!") Not some agency that wants to distract from their own failures by trying to deflect the blame back on China. I mean real ******* evidence.

When you get the video of Wang dropping the vial, get back to me.

Plenty of resources out there Joe. But you don't want to read them and you know why you don't. You want to hold onto your propaganda laiden opinion regardless of what information speaks otherwise. That doesn't say much about your intelligence and capacity to reason. It also points to potential personality issues. You classically display:
Cognitive Biases
Emotional Attachements
Motivated reasoning
Lacking critical thinking skills
You're an echo chamber for leftist ideology
And... you distrust any information from viable resources.

The rest of your drivel, is that, drivel based on all the above, which is you.

 

[JoeB131]

Plenty of resources out there Joe. But you don't want to read them and you know why you don't. You want to hold onto your propaganda laiden opinion regardless of what information speaks otherwise. That doesn't say much about your intelligence and capacity to reason. It also points to potential personality issues. You classically display:

Dude, they are all paranoid horseshit.

Until you show me that video of Wang dropping the vial, you have a lot of speculation, and not much else.

Duly noted you didn't answer my very logical points and went into another one of your hissy fits about how I'm being mean to you because I don't take Libertarian Children seriously.

 

[Moonglow]

Do any Americans seriously believe that this woman is capable of negotiating world peace with other world leaders???

When has there ever been world peace?

 

[JoeB131]

When has there ever been world peace?

Don't you know nothing, Moonglow.

According to the Trump Cultist, the world was at peace, Covid was well handled, the economy was wonderful and there were no riots. Oh, and those people who threatened to hang Pence were just tourists.

 

[LibertyKid]

Dude, they are all paranoid horseshit.

Until you show me that video of Wang dropping the vial, you have a lot of speculation, and not much else.

The burden of proof is on you to show me the bat that was ate and the person who ate it. You do realize how ridiculous your request is right? If you would READ, any of the evidence that has been shared, you might actually learn something. But I digress.

Duly noted you didn't answer my very logical points and went into another one of your hissy fits about how I'm being mean to you because I don't take Libertarian Children seriously.

You're not being mean, you're being obstinate illogical troll. That's on you and only reflects to the absurdity that you are.

 

[JoeB131]

The burden of proof is on you to show me the bat that was ate and the person who ate it. You do realize how ridiculous your request is right? If you would READ, any of the evidence that has been shared, you might actually learn something. But I digress.

Except that's how most viruses get into the population. They are transmitted naturally. You are the one who is suggesting an exceptional proximate cause. One that actually involved human agency that you can track.

(It was probably a Racoon Dog, not a bat, but that's neither here nor there.)

The real question is why you bleach drinkers are so enamored with a lab leak theory. Because if it came from a lab, that somehow exempts Trump from blame of every fucked up thing he did before, during, and after the Pandemic. And it would be laughable, except for all the hate crimes committed against Asian-Americans because Trump has engaged in this kind of demonization.

You're not being mean, you're being obstinate illogical troll. That's on you and only reflects to the absurdity that you are.

Naw, it's hilarious to watch you Trump cultists try to twist into knots to make his fuckups acceptable.

 

[jc456]

What, you "trust" the government now.

Not the people, but documents are official. I see those who are evil don't trust the documents. It's why they can't ever answer a fundamental question.

Where's their evidence?

of what?

You know, video of Wang dropping a vial and saying "Aiya!" (which is Mandarin for "Whoops!") Not some agency that wants to distract from their own failures by trying to deflect the blame back on China. I mean real ******* evidence.

As someone else said, you have the BAT?

When you get the video of Wang dropping the vial, get back to me.

bring in the affected BAT

Here's why anyone who tells me it's a lab leak is full of shit.

1) Why did the outbreak happen Seven miles away from the lab, across the Yangtze River? Are you really trying to tell me this virus ignored hundreds of thousands of people in dense residential areas to hit folks at the Wet market first?

The patient zero was inside the lab. ooops

2) If this was really a devious Chinese Bio-weapon, why wasn't it a hell of a lot more deadly?

ask fauci

When you don't have an Orange Shitgibbon running your policy, Covid has a relatively low fatality rate.

it did.

So you have no evidence that China really did anything wrong.

it came from there and their lab. And they hid it.

Probably the opposite, They did everything they could to contain it and gave the rest of the world plenty of warning this was a problem.

cause you believe china? hahahaahahahaha you getting kickbacks from creepy?

On the other hand, Trump was out there telling people to take quack cures and telling his nutter followers to show up at state capitols with guns to protest containment measures.

those were spot on.

Conservatives: "Covid is an overhyped flu used by the Democrats to destroy the One True God, Donald Trump."
Also Conservatives: "Covid is a devious Chinese Bioweapon designed to destroy the One True God, Donald Trump."

It was, ask the CDC. Fk, now ask fauci.

 

[jc456]

The burden of proof is on you to show me the bat that was ate and the person who ate it. You do realize how ridiculous your request is right? If you would READ, any of the evidence that has been shared, you might actually learn something. But I digress.

patient zero was from the lab. that's a big oops for him

You're not being mean, you're being obstinate illogical troll. That's on you and only reflects to the absurdity that you are.

obstinate, great word.

 

[JoeB131]

patient zero was from the lab. that's a big oops for him

Really, what was his name? Do you have his case record?

 

[jc456]

Really, what was his name? Do you have his case record?

It was a woman, a lab woman!!! use the internet stupid.

U.S. intel report identified 3 Wuhan lab workers who fell ill in 2019

The details add to circumstantial evidence supporting a theory Covid-19 spread to humans after escaping from a lab. But the evidence is far from conclusive.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[LibertyKid]

More information, do with it as you wish. I will point out that the below documentation leaves out a lot of "evidence" and I have no clue who makes up these organizations.

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Unclassified-Summary-of-Assessment-on-COVID-19-Origins.pdf

And for those who won't click on the link:

Key Takeaways
The IC assesses that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, probably emerged and
infected humans through an initial small-scale exposure that occurred no later than November
2019 with the first known cluster of COVID-19 cases arising in Wuhan, China in December
2019. In addition, the IC was able to reach broad agreement on several other key issues. We
judge the virus was not developed as a biological weapon. Most agencies also assess with low
confidence that SARS-CoV-2 probably was not genetically engineered; however, two agencies
believe there was not sufficient evidence to make an assessment either way. Finally, the IC
assesses China’s officials did not have foreknowledge of the virus before the initial outbreak of
COVID-19 emerged.

After examining all available intelligence reporting and other information, though, the IC
remains divided on the most likely origin of COVID-19. All agencies assess that two hypotheses
are plausible: natural exposure to an infected animal and a laboratory-associated incident.

 Four IC elements and the National Intelligence Council assess with low confidence
that the initial SARS-CoV-2 infection was most likely caused by natural exposure to
an animal infected with it or a close progenitor virus—a virus that probably would be
more than 99 percent similar to SARS-CoV-2. These analysts give weight to China’s
officials’ lack of foreknowledge, the numerous vectors for natural exposure, and other
factors.

 One IC element assesses with moderate confidence that the first human infection with
SARS-CoV-2 most likely was the result of a laboratory-associated incident, probably
involving experimentation, animal handling, or sampling by the Wuhan Institute of
Virology. These analysts give weight to the inherently risky nature of work on
coronaviruses.

 Analysts at three IC elements remain unable to coalesce around either explanation
without additional information, with some analysts favoring natural origin, others a
laboratory origin, and some seeing the hypotheses as equally likely.

 Variations in analytic views largely stem from differences in how agencies weigh
intelligence reporting and scientific publications, and intelligence and scientific gaps.

The IC judges they will be unable to provide a more definitive explanation for the origin of
COVID-19 unless new information allows them to determine the specific pathway for initial
natural contact with an animal or to determine that a laboratory in Wuhan was handling SARSCoV-2 or a close progenitor virus before COVID-19 emerged.

 

[LibertyKid]

It was a woman, a lab woman!!! use the internet stupid.

U.S. intel report identified 3 Wuhan lab workers who fell ill in 2019

The details add to circumstantial evidence supporting a theory Covid-19 spread to humans after escaping from a lab. But the evidence is far from conclusive.

www.nbcnews.com

He won't read it. His biased opinions and prideful spite is more important than potentially changing his opinion. Why, because his over inflated narcissistic ego won't let him be wrong. He can't say he was wrong, and probably has never said "I was wrong" ever in his life.

 

[JoeB131]

And for those who won't click on the link:

Why? There are so many weasel words in there that no one should take it seriously.

This was the SAME Intelligence community that swore up and down that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. 5000 dead Americans and hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis later, they were wrong.

This is the same Intelligence agency that said a plot revealed by a foreign intelligence agency that Al Qaeda to hijack airplanes wasn't credible.

So they have absolutely no EVIDENCE it was a lab leak, admit that the virus is not genetically engineered, and that it might have really started in an animal.

He won't read it. His biased opinions and prideful spite is more important than potentially changing his opinion. Why, because his over inflated narcissistic ego won't let him be wrong. He can't say he was wrong, and probably has never said "I was wrong" ever in his life.

Oh, I've admitted I was wrong many times. I voted for the ******* Repukes up until 2008, until I realized that I didn't have enough money for them to care if I lived or died.

But back to the point.

You have no evidence that it was a lab leak, just speculation.

And where the virus came from doesn't get Trump off the hook for his CRIMINAL incompetence in handling it.

 

[Rawley]

Dude, they are all paranoid horseshit.

Until you show me that video of Wang dropping the vial, you have a lot of speculation, and not much else.

Duly noted you didn't answer my very logical points and went into another one of your hissy fits about how I'm being mean to you because I don't take Libertarian Children seriously.

LOL So rather than an accident at the COVID virus lab down the street, you're going with the theory that COVID virus originated by a pangolin kissing a turtle*.

* props to Jon Stewart

 

[JoeB131]

LOL So rather than an accident at the COVID virus lab down the street, you're going with the theory that COVID virus originated by a pangolin kissing a turtle*.

* props to Jon Stewart

No, I'm going to base that on 'Chinese people eat some weird shit!"

(And I can say that because my wife is Chinese. I stopped questioning stuff about a year ago.)

 

[Rawley]

No, I'm going to base that on 'Chinese people eat some weird shit!"

(And I can say that because my wife is Chinese. I stopped questioning stuff about a year ago.)

LOL So, it's just an odd coincidence that COVID virus originated in town just down down the street from the COVID virus lab. Rather than in another one of the millions of towns where 1.4 billion Chinese eat weird shit.

This makes sense to you?

 

[JoeB131]

LOL So, it's just an odd coincidence that COVID virus originated in town just down down the street from the COVID virus lab. Rather than in another one of the millions of towns where 1.4 billion Chinese eat weird shit.

This makes sense to you?

not really.

China has hundreds of labs. So unless it broke out in Tibet or Inner Mongolia, there would likely to have been a biotech lab nearby.

New Research Centers - Biotechnology in China - NCBI Bookshelf

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

More than 200 research facilities and 50 different colleges and universities perform biotechnology and related research in China. During the past 5 years, the Chinese government has inaugurated two new types of research centers to promote the development and commercialization of this field. The first are the biotechnology bases at Jiangmen and Shanghai, which are meant to bring research results to the production stage. The second are the key laboratories, which provide research training for scientists from throughout China.

 

[jc456]

No, I'm going to base that on 'Chinese people eat some weird shit!"

(And I can say that because my wife is Chinese. I stopped questioning stuff about a year ago.)

so why do you think someone ate something if you have no evidence? Did someone from the DNC threaten you to say that?

 

[jc456]

not really.

China has hundreds of labs. So unless it broke out in Tibet or Inner Mongolia, there would likely to have been a biotech lab nearby.

New Research Centers - Biotechnology in China - NCBI Bookshelf

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

More than 200 research facilities and 50 different colleges and universities perform biotechnology and related research in China. During the past 5 years, the Chinese government has inaugurated two new types of research centers to promote the development and commercialization of this field. The first are the biotechnology bases at Jiangmen and Shanghai, which are meant to bring research results to the production stage. The second are the key laboratories, which provide research training for scientists from throughout China.

I quoted the report. why didn't you read it?