And here you go..... The difference between a first strike and a second strike is really no difference at all.

[meaner gene]

If the initial strikes are legal(which i question), why would the second strike be illegal? It makes no sense.
"well the survived the initial attack, so they get a "get out of death" card"

It's no different than if an enemy combatant throws down their weapons and waves a white flag.
Under your theory, you can just shoot them.
No quarter, no surrender, no POW's.

She would have been shot in the head and left for the buzzards.

 

[Bitterhook]

Yes it does. And it’s not on your side.

indiscriminately blowing up boats in open waters and pretending that this is fighting drug smugglers in an imaginary “war” is not legal, moral, and not authorized by anyone other than the clown dictator.

Since you identified it as an 'imaginary war', then the Geneva Convention doesn't apply to ununiformed troops, or recognized non-combatants, outside of any official theater of combat. Would you feel better if we just gave the CIA some drones, and let them take care of it instead of using the military?

I mean there are plenty of courses of action that nations can take in this circumstance, but I imagine that is why there is an aircraft carrier parked in the region. Russia had nuclear bombers based in Venezuela, and the Chinese have interests there too. Those two players split the scene or shut up when things started getting sketchy.

Venezuela has also been a safe haven in the western hemisphere for Hezbollah and Hamas. How about you folks start connecting some damn dots? Maybe it isn't all happening on accident, and we have kind of thought about what we are doing, whether or not you particularly like it.

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Just some links to some items mentioned, and if you don't like the sources, you can Google a couple of million other stories on the same subjects.

Why Russian Nuclear Bombers Are in Venezuela

The Tu-160 nuclear bombers in Venezuela reminds the United States that Russia can still project military might into the Western Hemisphere.

time.com

China: A Silent Ally Protecting Venezuela’s Maduro

The unconditional political, diplomatic and economic support offered by Beijing has been key to keeping the Bolivarian regime in power, from Chavez to Maduro.

thediplomat.com

'Venezuela cooperates with Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas': Marco Rubio calls the Maduro regime, Cuba and Nicaragua threats to regional stability

The secretary of state stressed that all countries have suffered the consequences of these regimes in one way or another.

voz.us

 

[theHawk]

Gee, I thought the intention was to stop drug flow into the US..... now it’s to kill people?

MAGA bloodlust knows no bounds.

Hilarious coming from the “support Ukraine war” forever crowd.

Do we even need to mention abortion?

 

[theHawk]

Calling someone a combatant doesn’t make them a combatant so a murder of a non-combatant is, in fact a murder.

Like when Obama bombed a wedding?

Are you calling for him to go to prison?

 

[meaner gene]

Since you identified it as an 'imaginary war', then the Geneva Convention doesn't apply to ununiformed troops, or recognized non-combatants, outside of any official theater of combat. Would you feel better if we just gave the CIA some drones, and let them take care of it instead of using the military?

This is where that argument gets twisted into knots. As soon as our military starts using weapons of war, that becomes a de-facto combat zone. And the Geneva conventions apply,.

And they SHOULD have left it up to the CIA,.

 

[meaner gene]

Do we even need to mention abortion?

It's the only card in your deck.

 

[meaner gene]

Like when Obama bombed a wedding?

Are you calling for him to go to prison?

Not since the USSC gave presidential immunity for all constitution based presidential acts.

Now you got NUTHIN on him.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

So explain it..... Why would lethal drugs going to Europe be any less dangerous then if they were bound for the southern coast of the United States?

Why does that suddenly make the speed boats and the speed boat operator's holy?

You're not just playing dumb on this one you are dumb.

So why isn't the UK blowing them up?

 

[Bitterhook]

This is where that argument gets twisted into knots. As soon as our military starts using weapons of war, that becomes a de-facto combat zone. And the Geneva conventions apply,.

And they SHOULD have left it up to the CIA,.

That's true, although I doubt the President would be wise in trusting anyone at the CIA considering their recent activities. I mean look at the list of Ex-Directors of the CIA that are either paid correspondents for Network News organizations, or are constantly on the television talking shit, like Pennetta, Petraeus, Brennen and Pompeo. Our CIA used to run covert operations in foreign countries to get that kind of television coverage, and the ability to control the 'news'.

 

[theHawk]

Not since the USSC gave presidential immunity for all constitution based presidential acts.

Now you got NUTHIN on him.

I never claimed he should be prosecuted for that act when he was Commander in Chief.

I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of the previous poster.

 

[meaner gene]

So why isn't the UK blowing them up?

Under their theory. If we catch Americans in international waters trying to smuggle drugs into CUBA we should blow them out of the water.
And if they survive the first strike, we should
hit 'em again... hit 'em again...harder... harder....

 

[theHawk]

In

So why isn't the UK blowing them up?

Because the UK welcomes third world trash and drugs.

 

[justoffal]

So why isn't the UK blowing them up?

2000 miles away maybe?

 

[theHawk]

It's the only card in your deck.

Hardly.

 

[justoffal]

Under their theory. If we catch Americans in international waters trying to smuggle drugs into CUBA we should blow them out of the water.
And if they survive the first strike, we should
hit 'em again... hit 'em again...harder... harder....

Yes....and?

 

[meaner gene]

That's true, although I doubt the President would be wise in trusting anyone at the CIA considering their recent activities. I mean look at the list of Ex-Directors of the CIA that are either paid correspondents for Network News organizations, or are constantly on the television talking shit, like Pennetta, Petraeus, Brennen and Pompeo. Our CIA used to run covert operations in foreign countries to get that kind of television coverage, and ability to control the 'news'.

WTF?
All those people the president can't trust A'INT THERE ANY MORE.
Trump can certainly trust his own man John Ratcliffe, then

 

[leftwinger]

Under their theory. If we catch Americans in international waters trying to smuggle drugs into CUBA we should blow them out of the water.
And if they survive the first strike, we should
hit 'em again... hit 'em again...harder... harder....

Why not? Easy solution to prevent it. Don't transport mass quantities of drugs or drug chemicals.//

Nobody cares.

 

[meaner gene]

Yes....and?

I'm glad you agree

 

[meaner gene]

2000 miles away maybe?

The US is 1500 miles away,.

That's a distinction without a difference,.

 

[meaner gene]

Why not? Easy solution to prevent it. Don't transport mass quantities of drugs or drug chemicals.//

Nobody cares.

I'm glad you're in favor of sinking Chinese cargo ships at sea, heading to Mexico,