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An Open Letter To: The House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Insurrection

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The Department of Energy is a member of the Executive Branch of Government. Hence, the President is in charge.

Nothing a President does dictates the gas price?

Killing pipelines? No effect?
Killing leases on government property, no effect?
Treatys, Negotaitions, Agreements? Nothing a President has an effect.


You are very naive.

you completely ignored everything else in my reply.

huh ... 'magine that.

no worries, i understand.
 

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you completely ignored everything else in my reply.

huh ... 'magine that.

no worries, i understand.
ignored? you copied and pasted a huge amount of information from google.

You did not add any analysis of what you posted. You simply searched google and posted. Now to refute google links takes a bit of time. Sorry if I was not actively replying instead of eating my dinner.

But I gave you one reply, dispelling your myth, separating you rant into comments that could be debated, if you have the inclination.
 

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ignored? you copied and pasted a huge amount of information from google.

i posted facts from credible sources. i've yet to see anything from you.


You did not add any analysis of what you posted.

i gave my opinions based on facts. i've yet to see anything from you that shows otherwise.

You simply searched google and posted.

um... that would be RE-search. you know.... as in facts.


Now to refute google links takes a bit of time. Sorry if I was not actively replying instead of eating my dinner.

well, thing is - you are hell bent on insisting the bloody attempted coup... wasn't. that only a handful of protesters were involved. i thought you were stating facts backed up with evidence. where is it? unless of course you are talking outa yer ass.

AND you claimed there were no weapons. why? you have nothing to prove otherwise. i showed proof.

But I gave you one reply, dispelling your myth, separating you rant into comments that could be debated, if you have the inclination.

debate me then. show yer links that back up yer claims that you already 'knew' how it all went down at the capital. oh & everything i said re: corrupt donny?

i can show you sources credible unbiased factual links if you think i made any of it up.

... no worries.... i understand.
 

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Handguns, crowbars, Tasers and tomahawk axes: Dozens of Capitol rioters wielded "deadly or dangerous" weapons, prosecutors say

BY CASSIDY MCDONALD
MAY 27, 2021 / 2:05 PM / CBS NEWS
[...]
A small number of Capitol riot defendants — at least three charged in the federal criminal investigation — have been accused of carrying firearms. But guns weren't the only threat. According to court documents reviewed by CBS News, 39 defendants have been accused of wielding "deadly or dangerous" weapons that weren't firearms, including Tasers, tomahawk axes, crowbars, flagpoles, a knife, an ice axe, a firecracker, a stun gun, baseball bats, fire extinguishers, a wooden club and chemical spray.
[...]

& that was on capital grounds. this dude was found with a multitude of weapons in his car

Another man arrested that day was Lonnie Coffman, a 70-year-old from Alabama who parked his truck near where pipe bombs had been discovered. Coffman has not been accused of planting the pipe bombs, but authorities said in an affidavit they noticed the handle of a firearm on the seat of Coffman's truck.

Searching the car, they said they found a "large and unlawful" trove of weapons, including a loaded handgun, rifle, shotgun, several large-capacity ammunition feeding devices, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, a crossbow with bolts, several machetes, a stun gun and molotov cocktails.
[...]
Handguns, crowbars, Tasers and tomahawk axes: Dozens of Capitol rioters wielded "deadly or dangerous" weapons, prosecutors say
Prosecutors say? That is the litmus test of guilt? Yet, they have yet to convict anybody at the Jan. 6th protest of insurrection?

but hey, if you are worried about an unarmed 70 year old man, there is really no hope for you

How about I quote your article, that you cherry picked.
It is not clear how many may have carried firearms during the siege because the majority of riot defendants were not arrested the day of the attack, but rather, were tracked down at their homes or businesses weeks or months later.


Three defendants accused of carrying firearms, but not caught carrying firearms at the protest, not on video carrying firearms at the protest. Not arrested the day of the protest with weapons. I guess as long as people are accused than in your mind, that is as good as committing a crime.

I call that a great example American Marxism.
 

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i posted facts from credible sources. i've yet to see anything from you.




i gave my opinions based on facts. i've yet to see anything from you that shows otherwise.



um... that would be RE-search. you know.... as in facts.




well, thing is - you are hell bent on insisting the bloody attempted coup... wasn't. that only a handful of protesters were involved. i thought you were stating facts backed up with evidence. where is it? unless of course you are talking outa yer ass.

AND you claimed there were no weapons. why? you have nothing to prove otherwise. i showed proof.



debate me then. show yer links that back up yer claims that you already 'knew' how it all went down at the capital. oh & everything i said re: corrupt donny?

i can show you sources credible unbiased factual links if you think i made any of it up.

... no worries.... i understand.
I have replied, and shown two of your opinions to be wrong, funny how, now, you choose to ignore those posts while claiming I am not responding to yours.

You created a very garbled, long comment with many points, why would you not choose one point, and make one post, so that one can easily read and respond. I could say it is because you are an idiot madly searching google and copying and pasting to try to save your ass.
 

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i said i married a real (R). i am an indy.




real footage - unedited - in real time. with out spin.




some sure did. the violent ones. they were there because they believed they were sent there. you know - donny who was supposta go with them. remember? oh & there are ones who said trump sent them there.




a real attempt.




false. at least were 4 arrested for having guns & firearms are not the only weapons that were there.

Handguns, crowbars, Tasers and tomahawk axes: Dozens of Capitol rioters wielded "deadly or dangerous" weapons, prosecutors say

BY CASSIDY MCDONALD
MAY 27, 2021 / 2:05 PM / CBS NEWS
[...]
A small number of Capitol riot defendants — at least three charged in the federal criminal investigation — have been accused of carrying firearms. But guns weren't the only threat. According to court documents reviewed by CBS News, 39 defendants have been accused of wielding "deadly or dangerous" weapons that weren't firearms, including Tasers, tomahawk axes, crowbars, flagpoles, a knife, an ice axe, a firecracker, a stun gun, baseball bats, fire extinguishers, a wooden club and chemical spray.
[...]

& that was on capital grounds. this dude was found with a multitude of weapons in his car

Another man arrested that day was Lonnie Coffman, a 70-year-old from Alabama who parked his truck near where pipe bombs had been discovered. Coffman has not been accused of planting the pipe bombs, but authorities said in an affidavit they noticed the handle of a firearm on the seat of Coffman's truck.

Searching the car, they said they found a "large and unlawful" trove of weapons, including a loaded handgun, rifle, shotgun, several large-capacity ammunition feeding devices, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, a crossbow with bolts, several machetes, a stun gun and molotov cocktails.
[...]
Handguns, crowbars, Tasers and tomahawk axes: Dozens of Capitol rioters wielded "deadly or dangerous" weapons, prosecutors say





there are over 600 arrests & the FBI is still looking for a lot more.

Capitol Breach Cases



the sgt in arms for both chambers is responsible for security. why aren'tcha blaming turtleboy over in the senate? they were invaded too... a trump humping asswipe made a lotta noise after wondering where they were - saying they need 'to start a new gov'ment.' lol! what a kidder.... right?

Posts falsely cite Pelosi as responsible for security during Capitol insurrection​

By BEATRICE DUPUYJanuary 20, 2021
Posts falsely cite Pelosi as responsible for security during Capitol insurrection




really? he did? by who? gotta link to that?

Timeline of National Guard Deployment to Capitol​


By Robert Farley
Posted on January 13, 2021 | Updated on May 24, 2021
Timeline of National Guard Deployment to Capitol - FactCheck.org

AP FACT CHECK: Trump distorts record on National Guard in DC​

By LOLITA C. BALDORJanuary 8, 2021
AP FACT CHECK: Trump distorts record on National Guard in DC

This is why the National Guard didn’t respond to the attack on the Capitol​

Meghann Myers and Howard Altman

This is why the National Guard didn’t respond to the attack on the Capitol

DC Guard chief details Pentagon delays during Jan. 6 riot at Capitol​

Walker calls restrictions on his ability to deploy his force ‘unusual’​

Scores of District of Columbia National Guardsmen loaded on buses at the Washington Armory and were ready to deploy as pro-Trump rioters breached the Capitol on Jan. 6, but minutes turned into hours as they awaited permission from the Pentagon to move out.

Maj. Gen. William J. Walker, the commander of the D.C. National Guard, told lawmakers Wednesday that written instructions issued ahead of the insurrection from then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller and then-Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy limited his ability to deploy his troops where, as a commander, he felt they were needed.

On Jan. 6, Walker and top officials from the U.S. Capitol Police and Metropolitan Police Department pleaded for permission to send the National Guard to help secure the Capitol during a phone call around 2:22 p.m. with defense officials. But Walker said he didn’t receive the go-ahead to send his troops to the Capitol until just after 5 p.m.

Because the District of Columbia is not a state and thus does not have a governor, the president is the commander in chief of the D.C. National Guard. The chain of command runs down to the Defense secretary and the Army secretary.

‘Unusual’ restrictions​

McCarthy’s written instructions from Jan. 5 required Walker to seek specific permission to deploy a 40-member quick reaction team. McCarthy also required Walker to send him a “concept of operation” before that team could be used.

“Based on the Defense Department’s public timeline, once requested, it took the National Guard over three hours to arrive at the Capitol. Now remember, we were all watching this on CNN, and Fox and MSNBC, and it’s a riot,” the Ohio Republican said. “We need to know why the Pentagon took so long to deploy the National Guard.”
DC Guard chief details Pentagon delays during Jan. 6 riot at Capitol


why did donny get rid of mark esper & installed an 'acting' secretary of defense, chris miller just a few days after the election when he was going to leave office? why did chris miller put out this memo on january 4th re: the NG?



the 1st amendment in the constitution is for everyone. even for nutters. but the moment violence occurs then that is a violation. what a stupid question. speaking of nutters, there is supposta be a protest in DC to free the 'political prisoners ' on sept 18; & i sure there will be quite a bit of ' (R)s ' there. let's see if that one stay peaceful.



LOL!!!!! wait - what? not corrupt? soooooooooooooooo..... that fraudulent university, wasn't? or his 'foundation' that he used as a personal piggybank & was shut down for....

wait for it....

FRAUD - didn't really happen?

or when he tried to use eminent domain for personal gain when he tried to sue an vera coking outa her home 'cause he wanted to bulldoze it & pave it over so his casino buddy's can park their limos closer to one of his now bankrupted casinos?




so many bankruptcies ... purely defunct & failed business' & hundreds of millions of dollars in loans coming due....




presidents don't dictate gas prices




lol...



hmmmmm.... when obama came into office - the unemployment rate was +/-10% because of W.'s incompetency; & when he left the rate dropped to +/- 5% despite having a (R) congress for 6 of the 8 yrs of his 2 terms.

donny - managed to drop that rate to only +/3.5% in nearly 4 years of his one & only term AND having both chambers of congress.



he got along with the world's tyrants that's for sure. but, he turned his back on our allies. why did he go to saudi arabia as his fist oversees official visit as potus?

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^^^ & WTF was THAT ? ^^^




i never said i was a (R). i am an indy - i said i am married to one but have voted across the spectrum. i'm pretty sure i've voted for more (R)s than you ever could a (D) or green party etc.




the party is dead. you voted for the party of trump.
1. You state Trump turned his back on our allies? Who?

2. What is wrong with going to Saudi Arabia? If that is problem we can all agree that Obama going to Egypt was a huge foreign policy blunder.

3. Unemployment, "those jobs are never coming back, what will Trump do, wave a magic wand". Proving Obama did not know how to create jobs and had no intention in creating
jobs. All the Employment gains during Obama's administration were either in government
jobs or Republican states in the Oil Industry, despite Obama's fight against said oil jobs.

4. Trump's bankrupt companies, operating within the rules and regulations that politicians
such as Biden and Obama as Senators wrote, voted on, or had the opportunity to change
had they thought laws were unjust.

That said, Trump comes to the office of the Presidency as a billionaire, running numerous
Corporations.
 

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real footage - unedited - in real time. with out spin.




some sure did. the violent ones. they were there because they believed they were sent there. you know - donny who was supposta go with them. remember? oh & there are ones who said trump sent them there.




a real attempt.




false. at least were 4 arrested for having guns & firearms are not the only weapons that were there.

Handguns, crowbars, Tasers and tomahawk axes: Dozens of Capitol rioters wielded "deadly or dangerous" weapons, prosecutors say

BY CASSIDY MCDONALD
MAY 27, 2021 / 2:05 PM / CBS NEWS
[...]
A small number of Capitol riot defendants — at least three charged in the federal criminal investigation — have been accused of carrying firearms. But guns weren't the only threat. According to court documents reviewed by CBS News, 39 defendants have been accused of wielding "deadly or dangerous" weapons that weren't firearms, including Tasers, tomahawk axes, crowbars, flagpoles, a knife, an ice axe, a firecracker, a stun gun, baseball bats, fire extinguishers, a wooden club and chemical spray.
[...]

& that was on capital grounds. this dude was found with a multitude of weapons in his car

Another man arrested that day was Lonnie Coffman, a 70-year-old from Alabama who parked his truck near where pipe bombs had been discovered. Coffman has not been accused of planting the pipe bombs, but authorities said in an affidavit they noticed the handle of a firearm on the seat of Coffman's truck.

Searching the car, they said they found a "large and unlawful" trove of weapons, including a loaded handgun, rifle, shotgun, several large-capacity ammunition feeding devices, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, a crossbow with bolts, several machetes, a stun gun and molotov cocktails.
[...]
Handguns, crowbars, Tasers and tomahawk axes: Dozens of Capitol rioters wielded "deadly or dangerous" weapons, prosecutors say





there are over 600 arrests & the FBI is still looking for a lot more.

Capitol Breach Cases



the sgt in arms for both chambers is responsible for security. why aren'tcha blaming turtleboy over in the senate? they were invaded too... a trump humping asswipe made a lotta noise after wondering where they were - saying they need 'to start a new gov'ment.' lol! what a kidder.... right?

Posts falsely cite Pelosi as responsible for security during Capitol insurrection​

By BEATRICE DUPUYJanuary 20, 2021
Posts falsely cite Pelosi as responsible for security during Capitol insurrection




really? he did? by who? gotta link to that?

Timeline of National Guard Deployment to Capitol​


By Robert Farley
Posted on January 13, 2021 | Updated on May 24, 2021
Timeline of National Guard Deployment to Capitol - FactCheck.org

AP FACT CHECK: Trump distorts record on National Guard in DC​

By LOLITA C. BALDORJanuary 8, 2021
AP FACT CHECK: Trump distorts record on National Guard in DC

This is why the National Guard didn’t respond to the attack on the Capitol​

Meghann Myers and Howard Altman

This is why the National Guard didn’t respond to the attack on the Capitol

DC Guard chief details Pentagon delays during Jan. 6 riot at Capitol​

Walker calls restrictions on his ability to deploy his force ‘unusual’​

Scores of District of Columbia National Guardsmen loaded on buses at the Washington Armory and were ready to deploy as pro-Trump rioters breached the Capitol on Jan. 6, but minutes turned into hours as they awaited permission from the Pentagon to move out.

Maj. Gen. William J. Walker, the commander of the D.C. National Guard, told lawmakers Wednesday that written instructions issued ahead of the insurrection from then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller and then-Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy limited his ability to deploy his troops where, as a commander, he felt they were needed.

On Jan. 6, Walker and top officials from the U.S. Capitol Police and Metropolitan Police Department pleaded for permission to send the National Guard to help secure the Capitol during a phone call around 2:22 p.m. with defense officials. But Walker said he didn’t receive the go-ahead to send his troops to the Capitol until just after 5 p.m.

Because the District of Columbia is not a state and thus does not have a governor, the president is the commander in chief of the D.C. National Guard. The chain of command runs down to the Defense secretary and the Army secretary.

‘Unusual’ restrictions​

McCarthy’s written instructions from Jan. 5 required Walker to seek specific permission to deploy a 40-member quick reaction team. McCarthy also required Walker to send him a “concept of operation” before that team could be used.

“Based on the Defense Department’s public timeline, once requested, it took the National Guard over three hours to arrive at the Capitol. Now remember, we were all watching this on CNN, and Fox and MSNBC, and it’s a riot,” the Ohio Republican said. “We need to know why the Pentagon took so long to deploy the National Guard.”
DC Guard chief details Pentagon delays during Jan. 6 riot at Capitol


why did donny get rid of mark esper & installed an 'acting' secretary of defense, chris miller just a few days after the election when he was going to leave office? why did chris miller put out this memo on january 4th re: the NG?



the 1st amendment in the constitution is for everyone. even for nutters. but the moment violence occurs then that is a violation. what a stupid question. speaking of nutters, there is supposta be a protest in DC to free the 'political prisoners ' on sept 18; & i sure there will be quite a bit of ' (R)s ' there. let's see if that one stay peaceful.



LOL!!!!! wait - what? not corrupt? soooooooooooooooo..... that fraudulent university, wasn't? or his 'foundation' that he used as a personal piggybank & was shut down for....

wait for it....

FRAUD - didn't really happen?

or when he tried to use eminent domain for personal gain when he tried to sue an vera coking outa her home 'cause he wanted to bulldoze it & pave it over so his casino buddy's can park their limos closer to one of his now bankrupted casinos?




so many bankruptcies ... purely defunct & failed business' & hundreds of millions of dollars in loans coming due....




presidents don't dictate gas prices




lol...



hmmmmm.... when obama came into office - the unemployment rate was +/-10% because of W.'s incompetency; & when he left the rate dropped to +/- 5% despite having a (R) congress for 6 of the 8 yrs of his 2 terms.

donny - managed to drop that rate to only +/3.5% in nearly 4 years of his one & only term AND having both chambers of congress.



he got along with the world's tyrants that's for sure. but, he turned his back on our allies. why did he go to saudi arabia as his fist oversees official visit as potus?

View attachment 535865

^^^ & WTF was THAT ? ^^^




i never said i was a (R). i am an indy - i said i am married to one but have voted across the spectrum. i'm pretty sure i've voted for more (R)s than you ever could a (D) or green party etc.




the party is dead. you voted for the party of trump.
5. Fraudulent, as easy as you say the University was fraudulent, I can say it is not.
Eva Coking and eminent domain, Trump lost that court battle? Calling it fraud
is disingenuous

6. Mark Esper, why fire Mark Esper when he publicly disagreed and preemptively disagreed with the presidents decisions? Because you can not conduct and execute policy with a subordinate who is fighting you politically.
 

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real footage - unedited - in real time. with out spin.




some sure did. the violent ones. they were there because they believed they were sent there. you know - donny who was supposta go with them. remember? oh & there are ones who said trump sent them there.




a real attempt.




false. at least were 4 arrested for having guns & firearms are not the only weapons that were there.

Handguns, crowbars, Tasers and tomahawk axes: Dozens of Capitol rioters wielded "deadly or dangerous" weapons, prosecutors say

BY CASSIDY MCDONALD
MAY 27, 2021 / 2:05 PM / CBS NEWS
[...]
A small number of Capitol riot defendants — at least three charged in the federal criminal investigation — have been accused of carrying firearms. But guns weren't the only threat. According to court documents reviewed by CBS News, 39 defendants have been accused of wielding "deadly or dangerous" weapons that weren't firearms, including Tasers, tomahawk axes, crowbars, flagpoles, a knife, an ice axe, a firecracker, a stun gun, baseball bats, fire extinguishers, a wooden club and chemical spray.
[...]

& that was on capital grounds. this dude was found with a multitude of weapons in his car

Another man arrested that day was Lonnie Coffman, a 70-year-old from Alabama who parked his truck near where pipe bombs had been discovered. Coffman has not been accused of planting the pipe bombs, but authorities said in an affidavit they noticed the handle of a firearm on the seat of Coffman's truck.

Searching the car, they said they found a "large and unlawful" trove of weapons, including a loaded handgun, rifle, shotgun, several large-capacity ammunition feeding devices, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, a crossbow with bolts, several machetes, a stun gun and molotov cocktails.
[...]
Handguns, crowbars, Tasers and tomahawk axes: Dozens of Capitol rioters wielded "deadly or dangerous" weapons, prosecutors say





there are over 600 arrests & the FBI is still looking for a lot more.

Capitol Breach Cases



the sgt in arms for both chambers is responsible for security. why aren'tcha blaming turtleboy over in the senate? they were invaded too... a trump humping asswipe made a lotta noise after wondering where they were - saying they need 'to start a new gov'ment.' lol! what a kidder.... right?

Posts falsely cite Pelosi as responsible for security during Capitol insurrection​

By BEATRICE DUPUYJanuary 20, 2021
Posts falsely cite Pelosi as responsible for security during Capitol insurrection




really? he did? by who? gotta link to that?

Timeline of National Guard Deployment to Capitol​


By Robert Farley
Posted on January 13, 2021 | Updated on May 24, 2021
Timeline of National Guard Deployment to Capitol - FactCheck.org

AP FACT CHECK: Trump distorts record on National Guard in DC​

By LOLITA C. BALDORJanuary 8, 2021
AP FACT CHECK: Trump distorts record on National Guard in DC

This is why the National Guard didn’t respond to the attack on the Capitol​

Meghann Myers and Howard Altman

This is why the National Guard didn’t respond to the attack on the Capitol

DC Guard chief details Pentagon delays during Jan. 6 riot at Capitol​

Walker calls restrictions on his ability to deploy his force ‘unusual’​

Scores of District of Columbia National Guardsmen loaded on buses at the Washington Armory and were ready to deploy as pro-Trump rioters breached the Capitol on Jan. 6, but minutes turned into hours as they awaited permission from the Pentagon to move out.

Maj. Gen. William J. Walker, the commander of the D.C. National Guard, told lawmakers Wednesday that written instructions issued ahead of the insurrection from then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller and then-Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy limited his ability to deploy his troops where, as a commander, he felt they were needed.

On Jan. 6, Walker and top officials from the U.S. Capitol Police and Metropolitan Police Department pleaded for permission to send the National Guard to help secure the Capitol during a phone call around 2:22 p.m. with defense officials. But Walker said he didn’t receive the go-ahead to send his troops to the Capitol until just after 5 p.m.

Because the District of Columbia is not a state and thus does not have a governor, the president is the commander in chief of the D.C. National Guard. The chain of command runs down to the Defense secretary and the Army secretary.

‘Unusual’ restrictions​

McCarthy’s written instructions from Jan. 5 required Walker to seek specific permission to deploy a 40-member quick reaction team. McCarthy also required Walker to send him a “concept of operation” before that team could be used.

“Based on the Defense Department’s public timeline, once requested, it took the National Guard over three hours to arrive at the Capitol. Now remember, we were all watching this on CNN, and Fox and MSNBC, and it’s a riot,” the Ohio Republican said. “We need to know why the Pentagon took so long to deploy the National Guard.”
DC Guard chief details Pentagon delays during Jan. 6 riot at Capitol


why did donny get rid of mark esper & installed an 'acting' secretary of defense, chris miller just a few days after the election when he was going to leave office? why did chris miller put out this memo on january 4th re: the NG?



the 1st amendment in the constitution is for everyone. even for nutters. but the moment violence occurs then that is a violation. what a stupid question. speaking of nutters, there is supposta be a protest in DC to free the 'political prisoners ' on sept 18; & i sure there will be quite a bit of ' (R)s ' there. let's see if that one stay peaceful.



LOL!!!!! wait - what? not corrupt? soooooooooooooooo..... that fraudulent university, wasn't? or his 'foundation' that he used as a personal piggybank & was shut down for....

wait for it....

FRAUD - didn't really happen?

or when he tried to use eminent domain for personal gain when he tried to sue an vera coking outa her home 'cause he wanted to bulldoze it & pave it over so his casino buddy's can park their limos closer to one of his now bankrupted casinos?




so many bankruptcies ... purely defunct & failed business' & hundreds of millions of dollars in loans coming due....




presidents don't dictate gas prices




lol...



hmmmmm.... when obama came into office - the unemployment rate was +/-10% because of W.'s incompetency; & when he left the rate dropped to +/- 5% despite having a (R) congress for 6 of the 8 yrs of his 2 terms.

donny - managed to drop that rate to only +/3.5% in nearly 4 years of his one & only term AND having both chambers of congress.



he got along with the world's tyrants that's for sure. but, he turned his back on our allies. why did he go to saudi arabia as his fist oversees official visit as potus?

View attachment 535865

^^^ & WTF was THAT ? ^^^




i never said i was a (R). i am an indy - i said i am married to one but have voted across the spectrum. i'm pretty sure i've voted for more (R)s than you ever could a (D) or green party etc.




the party is dead. you voted for the party of trump.
7. Protesting and the Right to Assemble, you state as soon as there is violence that right is no
longer a right? So any BLM or ANTIFA member can disrupt a peaceful Conservative protest?
The action of Democrats and Republican protests, dictate that we shall no longer have our
rights?
 

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i said i married a real (R). i am an indy.




real footage - unedited - in real time. with out spin.




some sure did. the violent ones. they were there because they believed they were sent there. you know - donny who was supposta go with them. remember? oh & there are ones who said trump sent them there.




a real attempt.




false. at least were 4 arrested for having guns & firearms are not the only weapons that were there.

Handguns, crowbars, Tasers and tomahawk axes: Dozens of Capitol rioters wielded "deadly or dangerous" weapons, prosecutors say

BY CASSIDY MCDONALD
MAY 27, 2021 / 2:05 PM / CBS NEWS
[...]
A small number of Capitol riot defendants — at least three charged in the federal criminal investigation — have been accused of carrying firearms. But guns weren't the only threat. According to court documents reviewed by CBS News, 39 defendants have been accused of wielding "deadly or dangerous" weapons that weren't firearms, including Tasers, tomahawk axes, crowbars, flagpoles, a knife, an ice axe, a firecracker, a stun gun, baseball bats, fire extinguishers, a wooden club and chemical spray.
[...]

& that was on capital grounds. this dude was found with a multitude of weapons in his car

Another man arrested that day was Lonnie Coffman, a 70-year-old from Alabama who parked his truck near where pipe bombs had been discovered. Coffman has not been accused of planting the pipe bombs, but authorities said in an affidavit they noticed the handle of a firearm on the seat of Coffman's truck.

Searching the car, they said they found a "large and unlawful" trove of weapons, including a loaded handgun, rifle, shotgun, several large-capacity ammunition feeding devices, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, a crossbow with bolts, several machetes, a stun gun and molotov cocktails.
[...]
Handguns, crowbars, Tasers and tomahawk axes: Dozens of Capitol rioters wielded "deadly or dangerous" weapons, prosecutors say





there are over 600 arrests & the FBI is still looking for a lot more.

Capitol Breach Cases



the sgt in arms for both chambers is responsible for security. why aren'tcha blaming turtleboy over in the senate? they were invaded too... a trump humping asswipe made a lotta noise after wondering where they were - saying they need 'to start a new gov'ment.' lol! what a kidder.... right?

Posts falsely cite Pelosi as responsible for security during Capitol insurrection​

By BEATRICE DUPUYJanuary 20, 2021
Posts falsely cite Pelosi as responsible for security during Capitol insurrection




really? he did? by who? gotta link to that?

Timeline of National Guard Deployment to Capitol​


By Robert Farley
Posted on January 13, 2021 | Updated on May 24, 2021
Timeline of National Guard Deployment to Capitol - FactCheck.org

AP FACT CHECK: Trump distorts record on National Guard in DC​

By LOLITA C. BALDORJanuary 8, 2021
AP FACT CHECK: Trump distorts record on National Guard in DC

This is why the National Guard didn’t respond to the attack on the Capitol​

Meghann Myers and Howard Altman

This is why the National Guard didn’t respond to the attack on the Capitol

DC Guard chief details Pentagon delays during Jan. 6 riot at Capitol​

Walker calls restrictions on his ability to deploy his force ‘unusual’​

Scores of District of Columbia National Guardsmen loaded on buses at the Washington Armory and were ready to deploy as pro-Trump rioters breached the Capitol on Jan. 6, but minutes turned into hours as they awaited permission from the Pentagon to move out.

Maj. Gen. William J. Walker, the commander of the D.C. National Guard, told lawmakers Wednesday that written instructions issued ahead of the insurrection from then-acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller and then-Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy limited his ability to deploy his troops where, as a commander, he felt they were needed.

On Jan. 6, Walker and top officials from the U.S. Capitol Police and Metropolitan Police Department pleaded for permission to send the National Guard to help secure the Capitol during a phone call around 2:22 p.m. with defense officials. But Walker said he didn’t receive the go-ahead to send his troops to the Capitol until just after 5 p.m.

Because the District of Columbia is not a state and thus does not have a governor, the president is the commander in chief of the D.C. National Guard. The chain of command runs down to the Defense secretary and the Army secretary.

‘Unusual’ restrictions​

McCarthy’s written instructions from Jan. 5 required Walker to seek specific permission to deploy a 40-member quick reaction team. McCarthy also required Walker to send him a “concept of operation” before that team could be used.

“Based on the Defense Department’s public timeline, once requested, it took the National Guard over three hours to arrive at the Capitol. Now remember, we were all watching this on CNN, and Fox and MSNBC, and it’s a riot,” the Ohio Republican said. “We need to know why the Pentagon took so long to deploy the National Guard.”
DC Guard chief details Pentagon delays during Jan. 6 riot at Capitol


why did donny get rid of mark esper & installed an 'acting' secretary of defense, chris miller just a few days after the election when he was going to leave office? why did chris miller put out this memo on january 4th re: the NG?



the 1st amendment in the constitution is for everyone. even for nutters. but the moment violence occurs then that is a violation. what a stupid question. speaking of nutters, there is supposta be a protest in DC to free the 'political prisoners ' on sept 18; & i sure there will be quite a bit of ' (R)s ' there. let's see if that one stay peaceful.



LOL!!!!! wait - what? not corrupt? soooooooooooooooo..... that fraudulent university, wasn't? or his 'foundation' that he used as a personal piggybank & was shut down for....

wait for it....

FRAUD - didn't really happen?

or when he tried to use eminent domain for personal gain when he tried to sue an vera coking outa her home 'cause he wanted to bulldoze it & pave it over so his casino buddy's can park their limos closer to one of his now bankrupted casinos?




so many bankruptcies ... purely defunct & failed business' & hundreds of millions of dollars in loans coming due....




presidents don't dictate gas prices




lol...



hmmmmm.... when obama came into office - the unemployment rate was +/-10% because of W.'s incompetency; & when he left the rate dropped to +/- 5% despite having a (R) congress for 6 of the 8 yrs of his 2 terms.

donny - managed to drop that rate to only +/3.5% in nearly 4 years of his one & only term AND having both chambers of congress.



he got along with the world's tyrants that's for sure. but, he turned his back on our allies. why did he go to saudi arabia as his fist oversees official visit as potus?

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^^^ & WTF was THAT ? ^^^




i never said i was a (R). i am an indy - i said i am married to one but have voted across the spectrum. i'm pretty sure i've voted for more (R)s than you ever could a (D) or green party etc.




the party is dead. you voted for the party of trump.
8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15,

I addressed previously. Respond where appropriate.
 

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you completely ignored everything else in my reply.

huh ... 'magine that.

no worries, i understand.
I replied to everything, now I see you are completely ignoring the facts I presented. Imagine that, when confronted with facts you disappear.

imagine that, ignoring all the responses to your posts. There you go people, when confronted with facts playtime quits playing
 

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i posted facts from credible sources. i've yet to see anything from you.
you posted a copy and paste from google searches, as we know google is an extreme democrat liberal political platform linking to the democrat's political allies, first, second, and third. It takes a lot of searching, careful choosing of terms, and sometimes very specific knowledge of websites to even come close to finding facts, with google.

google is as fake as it gets
 

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Prosecutors say? That is the litmus test of guilt?

noooooo..... a court trial determines that.

Yet, they have yet to convict anybody at the Jan. 6th protest of insurrection?

the wheels of justice move slowly sometimes. but ticky tocky....

Capitol Breach Cases​

Below is a list of defendants charged in federal court in the District of Columbia related to crimes committed at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C, on Wednesday, Jan. 6, 2021.
Every case is being prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia. Following arrests, or surrender, defendants must appear before district court magistrate/judge where the arrest takes place, in accordance with the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.
Capitol Breach Cases

& didn't you hear? ( of course not - the pablum you watch & listen to won't tell you that)

the first guilty pleas are happening now.... the feds always go after the low hanging fruit first - those willing to take a plea deal go to the front of the line.

Capitol rioters enter 1st guilty pleas to assaulting police​

By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN August 6, 2021
Capitol rioters enter 1st guilty pleas to assaulting police


but hey, if you are worried about an unarmed 70 year old man, there is really no hope for you

i'm worried about anybody who wants to stage a coup because their dear leader told them to.


How about I quote your article, that you cherry picked.

okey dokey ....
Three defendants accused of carrying firearms, but not caught carrying firearms at the protest, not on video carrying firearms at the protest. Not arrested the day of the protest with weapons. I guess as long as people are accused than in your mind, that is as good as committing a crime.

I call that a great example American Marxism.

LOL!!!! uh.... first of all THAT link was NOT about who had firearms on capital grounds. THAT article showed the WEAPONS on capital grounds - because you tried to peddle that firearms are the only thing considered a weapon.

that is a lie. & anyhoo, THAT article did state that one individual DID get caught with a gun...

Police said in a criminal charging document that during the evening of January 6, as authorities were clearing the U.S. Capitol Visitor Center, 33-year-old Christopher Alberts was slow to respond to police orders. An officer noticed a bulge on his hip and Alberts attempted to flee, but was ultimately caught with a loaded handgun and a spare magazine, along with a gas mask, pocket knife, a packaged military meal and a first aid kit. Authorities said there was one round in the handgun's chamber. Alberts has pleaded not guilty.
 

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I have replied, and shown two of your opinions to be wrong,

no you did not.


funny how, now, you choose to ignore those posts while claiming I am not responding to yours.

i ignore nothing. care to respond to the corruption donny has stewed in over the years? you know - what you ignored?


You created a very garbled, long comment with many points, why would you not choose one point, and make one post, so that one can easily read and respond.

false. i break up all the bullshit, so it can be addressed one by one.


I could say it is because you are an idiot madly searching google and copying and pasting to try to save your ass.

i post facts. where are your links to refudiate them?

PLEASE... by all means - go for it. please tell me how the election was stolen. how biden cheated.

c'mon ... i want links.
 

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1. You state Trump turned his back on our allies? Who?

NATO.


2. What is wrong with going to Saudi Arabia? If that is problem we can all agree that Obama going to Egypt was a huge foreign policy blunder.

as his FIRST oversees visit? & not to any member of NATO which has been the standard protocol for decades?


3. Unemployment, "those jobs are never coming back, what will Trump do, wave a magic wand". Proving Obama did not know how to create jobs and had no intention in creating
jobs.

LOL!

All the Employment gains during Obama's administration were either in government
jobs or Republican states in the Oil Industry, despite Obama's fight against said oil jobs.

JANUARY 14, 2015

Job shifts under Obama: Fewer government workers, more caregivers, servers and temps​

BY DREW DESILVER
Job shifts under Obama: Fewer government workers, more caregivers and temps

why hasn't donny brought his cheap sweatshop made crap here to be manufactured?

4. Trump's bankrupt companies, operating within the rules and regulations that politicians
such as Biden and Obama as Senators wrote, voted on, or had the opportunity to change
had they thought laws were unjust.

but but but............. his freakin' casinos went belly up - a biz'nez that is designed by default to WIN.


That said, Trump comes to the office of the Presidency as a billionaire, running numerous
Corporations.

you have NO clue how much he is actually worth - because he has refused to show his taxes. & he's got close to 1/2 a billion dollars in loans coming due.

hmmmm.... i wonder to whom. <coughcoughdeutschebankcoughcough>

he was so bad with cash - that in the 1990's wall street had to put him on an allowance. something else i can prove.
 

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5. Fraudulent, as easy as you say the University was fraudulent, I can say it is not.

too late the courts decided it was based on ... you know....

evidence.


Eva Coking

Vera Coking. at least get her name right.

and eminent domain, Trump lost that court battle?

he sure did.


Calling it fraud
is disingenuous

that's nice - i didn't call it fraud. did you play hookey the day they taught reading comp?

i said CORRUPT. as in an example of him being CORRUPT. you used that word when describing how he wasn't CORRUPT. i gave you 3 examples how he was.

his court decided fraudulent university.

his foundation closed down because he stole from it. (btw, he pleaded 'guilty' to 19 charges in that case)

& him trying to use eminent domain for personal gain.

6. Mark Esper, why fire Mark Esper when he publicly disagreed and preemptively disagreed with the presidents decisions?

3 days after the election ... 2 months b4 he was to leave office. the sec of the dept of defense.... & installed an 'acting' secretary. do you know why he was only 'acting'? because he would not have been confirmed.

way to destabilize out security.


Because you can not conduct and execute policy with a subordinate who is fighting you politically.

there was no more 'policy' ... he was on his way out the door.

that is if you think he actually lost & was going to leave with dignity.

lol ....
 

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7. Protesting and the Right to Assemble, you state as soon as there is violence that right is no
longer a right? So any BLM or ANTIFA member can disrupt a peaceful Conservative protest?

nope. see? i said even nutters have that right. there's that lack of comprehension you got going on again.

btw - over 10K arrests from the BLM protests have occurred across the nation. how 'bout that, 'eh?

The action of Democrats and Republican protests, dictate that we shall no longer have our
rights?

smh.
 

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'An Open Letter To: The House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Insurrection'



I usually just ignore any reference to the 'House Committee to Investigate the January 6th 'Insurrection'' as much as I can - giving them the attention / recognition they 'deserve'. Here, however, are some thoughts:

1. Such a committee is a waste of time and not needed.

1st, as we all know, it is a bunch of expensive political bullshit theater. Pelosi is trying to re-write history / replace the existing findings from the bi-partisan committee that already investigated the 1/6 event, the findings that roasted the Capitol Police, the Sergeants-at -Arms for the House and Senate (who are now gone), Pelosi, the DC Mayor, and pinned partial blame on the proven criminal FBI .

2ndly, everyone knows Pelosi and Democrats failed to give ownership of what happened on 1/6 to Trump, failed to Impeach Trump (a 2nd time) for it, and they are still desperate to pin it on him, to paint him as being as dangerous to the nation as they have proven themselves to be to hurt any slight chance he may return in 2024.

3rdly, as we all know, politicians are paid to be the elected politicians they are but are paid additional sums for every committee of which they are members. The more BS committees they make up the more money they get from us. (And YES, the Democrats who were members of the committee whose sole reason for existing was to pay for the silence of the victims of Democrat Politician sexual misconduct using tax dollars to do so WERE paid for being on that committee).

Additionally, this was 7 months ago, it has been investigated, the findings released, and those involved are in the midst of being punished. There are other, more serious, pressing matters that need to be investigated, such as:

- Biden's complete and utter failure to withdraw from Afghanistan, leaving hundreds of Americans behind despite promising Americans and allies he would not.




- The fact that Fauci has been caught in another Lie, one of many constant lies and flip-flops...


etc...
 

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almost forgot all the corruption that donny is under investigation re: bank & insurance FRAUD!!!!!

first his 'empire' .... then his CEO .... then other trump org insiders going in front of a grand jury in recent days ....

then his spawn ...then him.



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nope. see? i said even nutters have that right. there's that lack of comprehension you got going on again.
the 1st amendment in the constitution is for everyone. even for nutters. but the moment violence occurs then that is a violation
again, you claim as soon as there is a violation, we no longer have the right to assemble? To speak?? And democrat can disrupt a nice peaceful protest by conservatives, by simply showing up and doing something violent.

You are awfully vague, I guess that way it can mean anything you want depending on one responds?
 

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An Open Letter To: The House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Insurrection

Despite the 2022 Mid-term Elections being over one year away, time is actually growing quite short for Nancy Pelosi’s select committee investigating the January 6th insurrection.

Last week, the House speaker signaled that the Committee would soon be focusing on sitting members of Congress who, in her words, “participated in the big ‘lie.’”

The select committee’s chair, Democratic Representative Bennie G. Thompson of Mississippi, has said that he has “no reluctance to subpoena” members of Congress “whose testimony is germane to the mission of the select committee” if they refuse to cooperate voluntarily. The question of whether members of the House GOP knew about or were involved in the events of January 6th falls squarely within the legitimate scope of the investigatory committee.

However, there is no established historical or legal precedent regarding congressional power to enforce subpoenas against members of Congress. So, those Republican congressmen (and women) who openly promoted the “big lie” will inevitably seek court ordered actions to block the enforcement of the committee’s subpoenas. These delaying actions, even if unsuccessful, should stall the committee’s investigation for an extended period.

Regardless of the evidence already known about the lead-up to the insurrectionists’ attack on the Capitol, including all the public statements made by participants at trump’s pep-talk to his devoted legion the morning of January 6th, there's a real question if there's the political will to take steps necessary to get the twice impeached, former cheeto-in-chief trump, and insurrectionist-supporting Republicans on record and under oath. (The corporate controlled Senate Democrats’ foot-dragging in passing the current bill to protect voters’ rights is a strong indication of this lack of political will by the “moderate” Democrats.)

Pelosi’s House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the Capitol by trump inspired insurrectionists has already exposed the true horror experienced by the Capitol Police who defended our nation.

Also, Americans are well aware of the speeches and the tweets that promoted the “big lie” that the election was stolen, incited violence, called for insurrection and encouraged trump’s supporters to stop the electoral college certification by any means necessary. Some examples follow:

The twice impeached, former cheeto-in-chief trump: "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore" “And after this, we're going to walk down, and I'll be there with you” [1]

Rep. Mo Brooks: “Today is the day American patriots start taking down names and kicking ass.” “Are you willing to do what it takes to fight for America? Louder! Will you fight for America?”[2]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene: This is Republican's "1776 moment"[3]

Rep. Paul Gosar: President Biden is an “illegitimate usurper” - Mr. Trump was “the victim of an attempted coup”

Rep. Andy Biggs: "When it comes to January 6, I am going to be right down there in the well of the House with my friend from Alabama, Mo Brooks, and dozens of others”[4]

Rep. Madison Cawthorn: “Call your congressman and feel free — you can lightly threaten them.” “Say: ‘If you don’t support election integrity, I’m coming after you.”

We know Ali Alexander, credited with founding the Stop the Steal campaign, bragged about coordinating with Reps. Brooks, Gosar, and Biggs multiple times on live streams in December, including specifically that “we’re the four guys who came up with a January 6 event.”[5] We know Rep. Brooks knew there was enough of a threat of violence that he wore body armor to the Stop the Steal rally.[6]

So, members of the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Insurrection, you are in an uphill battle with nearly every House Republican planning to block your progress. All Senate Republicans will stand in your way. And the corporate controlled “moderate” Senate Democrats’ willing failures to end the filibuster and pass the John R. Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act will make everything accomplished by the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Insurrection... irrelevant.

[1] Transcript Of Trump's Speech At Rally Before Capitol Riot : NPR

[2] Trump is on trial for inciting an insurrection. What about the 12 people who spoke before him? - POLITICO

[3] How Republicans Fanned the Flames Before US Capitol Building Riot - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

[4] Biggs points finger at antifa as new videos show his ties to 'Stop the Steal' (azcentral.com)

[5] Freedom Caucus Chair Andy Biggs Helped Plan January 6 Event, Lead Organizer Says (theintercept.com)

[6] GOP Lawmaker Mo Brooks Says He Wore Body Armor to Jan. 6 Trump Rally (businessinsider.com)






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We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore" “And after this, we're going to walk down, and I'll be there with you” [1]

Huh...so, we can take selected segments of out of context and random snippets of speech, and line them up in a desired order to form a narrative that we want to?

Okie then:

Nancy Pelosi said this once:

"I plan" "to take" "my gavel" "and attack" "Donald J Trump"

Or..

Chuck schumer:

"I like cats" "in my soup" "and spicy chicken wings" "up my" "nose"

Wow, who knew Pelosi wanted to do violence to a, then sitting" president....and Schumer? He's got some issues i tell you!
 

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