An Ode to Saint Joe Manchin

[basquebromance]

president manchin?

 

[task0778]

president manchin?

I highly doubt Manchin could win the democratic nomination, the progressives hate his guts and they're running the show over there.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[DJT for Life]

Is it more important to kill bad bills than pass good ones? You're damn right it is.

That is correct to a point.

A bad bill is a bad bill. But right now the dems are arguing over a price tag, not the guts of the
bill. Even Manchin is debating price and not content. "My ceiling is 1.5 trillion?" That was his comment.
He's a skilled politician. The progressives are filled with young stupid fucking black women that don't know how
to play the game.

The cost of these bills are computed over time. Some are a decade...some are for five years, whatever. I could take
2 trillion off of this entire bill just by changing the end date to two years. That's what they're going to do...but it still will
be the same bad bill. Keep an eye on all of that...then we'll know what Manchin is really up to.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[maybelooking]

That is correct to a point.

A bad bill is a bad bill. But right now the dems are arguing over a price tag, not the guts of the
bill. Even Manchin is debating price and not content. "My ceiling is 1.5 trillion?" That was his comment.
He's a skilled politician. The progressives are filled with young stupid fucking black women that don't know how
to play the game.

The cost of these bills are computed over time. Some are a decade...some are for five years, whatever. I could take
2 trillion off of this entire bill just by changing the end date to two years. That's what they're going to do...but it still will
be the same bad bill. Keep an eye on all of that...then we'll know what Manchin is really up to.

absolutely spot on.

the left starts with a high number they know won't fly. Manchin and senima look like heroes because the won't support it. so the number comes down a lot making the left look like wonderful, heroic negotiators.

all the while, the entire bill is atrocious and not worthy of passing for any amount.

 

[basquebromance]

Manchin is trying to be a moderate, because WV is a moderate state and the way you get elected here — or at least the way you have in the past — is to not be challenged in a primary and get your ass to the middle to try to keep enough swing voters in your camp


Given the polarization — the leftists are more left now and the right-ists are more crazy now — your calculation needs to be different …Manchin's calculation is off

 

[task0778]

Manchin is trying to be a moderate, because WV is a moderate state and the way you get elected here — or at least the way you have in the past — is to not be challenged in a primary and get your ass to the middle to try to keep enough swing voters in your camp


Given the polarization — the leftists are more left now and the right-ists are more crazy now — your calculation needs to be different …Manchin's calculation is off

I don't see the rightists being more crazy. Jan 6 was pretty much a one-off IMHO and way overblown by the Left, plus I don't see the numbers of people and events as matching up. In terms of crazy, the Leftists are way worse than the Righties are. It ain't the Right setting up CHAZ zones and rioting in the streets, although it has toned down some since last summer. You know, it kinda makes you wonder: when Trump was president it was all peaceful protests and 1st Amendment rights, and the Lefties burned, looted, and rioted with impunity. But now you don't see it; so somebody somewhere is orchestrating violence or taming it down for political purposes. Maybe the money to support such activities kinda dried up when Biden signed in.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[task0778]

Manchin is trying to be a moderate, because WV is a moderate state and the way you get elected here — or at least the way you have in the past — is to not be challenged in a primary and get your ass to the middle to try to keep enough swing voters in your camp


Given the polarization — the leftists are more left now and the right-ists are more crazy now — your calculation needs to be different …Manchin's calculation is off

The curious thing is, there has to be a number of other senators from red or purple states that are not too thrilled with the direction the democrats are taking this country and in their senators as a result. But they're letting Manchin and Sinema take all the heat; would the other 48 senators really vote to end the filibuster? Would they really vote for that $3.5 trillion liberal spending spree bill if they had to vote and it counted for something?

IMHO, any democrat senator who votes for the bipartisan $1.2 trillion Infrastructure bill is probably not in too much hot water, but voting for the much larger human infrastructure bill that the far Left wants is another matter. Hard to say what the dollar amount will end up being, but there's a good chance (IMHO) that any senator who votes for that is in some trouble unless they are from a safe state. Ditto the House Reps, we'll see how things turn out, but at the moment if the election were held today the GOP would take back a majority.

 

[dudmuck]

 

[basquebromance]

already seen it. classic

 

[basquebromance]

“They're going to hear me complain and bitch and holler and scream when I don't like it, but it's not going to be in front of you. And I'm going to be very specific in what I want.” - Saint Manchin

He’s willing to lose for his principles. you don’t see that a lot

 

[struth]

Manchin is threatening to kill the reconciliation bill for promoting an "entitlement mentality," almost exactly 13 years after he pushed for a Wall Street bailout. It would be nice if bankers ever had to show a little "personal responsibility."

i don’t disagree the dem congress passed the wall street bailout and obama, xiden and actually then Commissoner Warren overall one of the biggest bailouts and fascist moves in US history bailing out Wall Street, many banks that didn’t even need it, while main street suffered.

All we saw was Wall Street recover, while UE skyrocketed to double digits.

This lead to the historic red wave in 2010 that helped slow down the demafascist, and start to see some recovery.

i’m glad the Senator from WV learned from this

 

[kyzr]

“I cannot accept our economy, or basically our society, moving towards an entitlement mentality.” - Manchin’s declaration comes almost exactly thirteen years after he played a pivotal role pushing for a massive Wall Street bailout

That "Wall Street Bailout" was because the democrats passed the CRA requiring banks to make loans to poor risk borrowers. That caused the financial crisis. Besides, the Banks all paid back the loans with interest. You should know that. What shithole country are you from? Research TARP, that was $800b used for LOANS to banks.

Community Reinvestment Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[kyzr]

Manchin is trying to be a moderate, because WV is a moderate state and the way you get elected here — or at least the way you have in the past — is to not be challenged in a primary and get your ass to the middle to try to keep enough swing voters in your camp


Given the polarization — the leftists are more left now and the right-ists are more crazy now — your calculation needs to be different …Manchin's calculation is off

Biden did not win ANY counties in WV. Trump won every one.
WV is by far the reddest (most Republican) state in the US.
What shithole country are you from?

 

[kyzr]

Manchin (and Sinema) should switch to Republicans. The democrat party is no place for moderates.

 

[basquebromance]

Biden did not win ANY countis in WV. Trump won every one.
WV is by far the reddest (most Republican) state in the US.
What shithole country are you from?

West Virginia.

 

[kyzr]

West Virginia.

Liar.

 

[basquebromance]

a breakthrough! Crazy Bernie and Saint Manchin agree on something!

Dems fear Sinema's still not there on a prescription drug plan

The senator's office says she's 'carefully reviewing' the proposals. But time's running out.

www.politico.com

"White House officials have also taken notice of the unlikely agreement between Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) on allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices, and consider the provision one of many big priorities in the package, according to a source familiar with the administration’s thinking. Lowering prescription drug costs is one of the more popular elements of Biden’s plan and many Democrats see it as key to their success in the 2022 midterms and beyond. That’s particularly true as prior pledges to lower the age of Medicare and create a public insurance option have been sidelined."