An interesting take on Mumbai

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The war against civilisation | The Spectator

The atrocities in Mumbai have left reporters and commentators floundering for explanations. Why India? Was this a local terrorist group or al Qaeda? Why single out Americans and Brits if they also targeted Indians in the railway station? Why attack some obscure Jewish organisation? And so on. They are floundering because they still just don’t get it. The atrocities demonstrated with crystal clarity what the Islamist war is all about – and the western commentariat didn’t understand because it simply refuses to acknowledge, even now, what that war actually is. It does not arise from particular grievances. It is not rooted in ‘despair’ over Palestine. It is not a reaction to the war in Iraq. It is a war waged in the name of Islam against America, Britain, Hindus, Jews and all who refuse to submit to Islamic conquest. The Mumbai atrocities told us very clearly a number of things.



The Islamists want to murder as many Americans, Brits, Hindus and Jews as possible. That is because they are waging all-out war against civilisation.

They singled out Americans, Brits and Indians in the financial heart of India to break the ever-more important strategic alliance between India and the west.

They went to some lengths in addition to single out a centre for observant Jews. Rabbi Holtzberg and his wife Rivka were murdered not because of Palestine but simply because they were Jews. That is because hatred of Jews as Jews is fundamental to the Islamists’ hatred of the west – and of Israel.

The Islamists showed a degree of organisation and co-ordination which are more akin to commando raids by an army than acts of terrorism.

They have the capacity not merely to commit mass murder but to cause mortal damage to a country’s economy.

If they can do this in Mumbai, they can do it in London or other British cities; the infrastructure of Islamist terror is more extensively developed in Britain, and the authorities more paralysed in the face of what they have allowed to grow in their midst, than anywhere else in the west.




And yet still the west is scratching its head...
 
The West is scratching its head?

I don't think so.

It's fairly clear by now that the terrorists are about the business of trying to monkeywrench any attempts at Islamic nations and non-Islam nations arriving at any modus vivendi.

In this case they're trying to screw up the relations between India and Pakistan.
 
Deepak blames America... Why he has such a huge following? I don't know, but I can't believe he believes his own crap. Sounds a bit like Richard Gere after 9/11.

Deepak Blames America - WSJ.com

I watched some of the footage on Mumbai. I was dumbfounded that Indian police did not use their guns to take down the terrorists. I didn't get that.

To me this is another instance where concealed handguns could have been used by civilians to fight back and protect themselves.
 
I am no fan of Deepak Chopra, but he is exactly right on this issue.

He's trying to rationalize why muslims behave this way. And WE are to blame? Your religion is a satanic religion. It says in the Koran to "kill the infidels."

You are lucky you are in America, where even you are protected. How dare do you blame America for what the muslims did? In the name of religion, the Conquistadors did wrong and so have your people.
 
Deepak chopra is just another moonbat.

seriously "Global Peace meditation"?

WARNING: BEFORE YOU LISTEN SET YOUR ALARM CLOCK

Seduction of the spirit?

Dopak is just another new age, vibrate with the universe loony

Does anyone else listening to him get a mental image of Apu?

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The greater the atrocities commited by Muslim terrorists, the more likely they will get the war they want, which will lead to their eventual destruction. Their Holy War will come, and it will come at a great price to humanity, but in the end, Muslims will lose in a very big way.

Everyone thinks that normal people cannot be provoked into committing great atrocities in retaliation for these types of acts. Everyone is wrong. Just wait until Mulsims get close to becoming the majority in Europe and try to force their ways on indigenous Europeans. There will be so much blood flowing in the streets, it will make WWII look like a dress rehearsal.
 
Actually, Apu rocks.

Muslims becoming a majority in Europe is not going to happen anytime soon, apart from that there is a signficant amount of assimilation too.
Although it is easy to blame the USA for everything that goes wrong in the world, it is not really correct.

I also belief that the problem with Islamists is not the neccesary Koran, the old Testament is more brutal. Its that they take it to serious. I belief that states taking the Mosaic religion and the Old testament very serious would be at least as Violent as Al-Quaida.
 
Of course the Islamic terrorists hate the West.

Who ever doubted that?

the debate, if there even is a debate, is what percentage of the Islamic community supports their goals?

Some of you seems to think all of Islam wants to convert the west by the sword.

I rather doubt that.

Just like I know that very few American are really Christian fanatics.
 
Deepak chopra is just another moonbat.

seriously "Global Peace meditation"?

WARNING: BEFORE YOU LISTEN SET YOUR ALARM CLOCK


Seduction of the spirit?

Dopak is just another new age, vibrate with the universe loony

Does anyone else listening to him get a mental image of Apu?

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welll i attempted to pm you but alas....has to be public...the term "moonbat" is very offensive to those of my religion....i realize you simply mean it in the since of democrats...but think about it please when you use it.
 
I agree with some of what Chopra says, but I am not convinced that the West is scratching its head. Each country does what it perceives to be in its own best interests. Right now, the US needs Pakistan to serve as a buffer against Al Qaida. Although Pakistan is not serving this purpose as well as the US would like it to, it is still better than nothing. So the US sees Pakistan as a more valuable ally. It is in the US' best interest to convince the Indians to shut up and sit down, and have Pakistan make some token gestures and to parlay this into positive world opinion.
 
Deepak blames America... Why he has such a huge following? I don't know, but I can't believe he believes his own crap. Sounds a bit like Richard Gere after 9/11.

I watched some of the footage on Mumbai. I was dumbfounded that Indian police did not use their guns to take down the terrorists. I didn't get that.

To me this is another instance where concealed handguns could have been used by civilians to fight back and protect themselves.

Deepak sounds like a charlatan. i used to believe that spirituality was a real trait that people possess; that some people were naturally linked with the divine world. but i think they're mostly delusional or just con men.
 

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