CDZ America’s major political parties don’t have ‘the stomach’ to reform US gun laws

[fncceo]

You Americans have no qualms about advising us on how to live our lives

I don't remember anyone here telling Holland how to run their country.

But, as long as your taking our millions to defend your country ... a simple "thank you" wouldn't be out of line.

 

[peacefan]

What's funny is that it's the leftists like you in America that you're complaining about, and you don't seem to get that.

in US electoral terms, i'm more Independent than a leftist

 

[peacefan]

I don't remember anyone here telling Holland how to run their country.

But, as long as your taking our millions to defend your country ... a simple "thank you" wouldn't be out of line.

we'll grow our own armies, and stock them with legitimately purchased US weapons.
that way, you can get some of your billions back..

 

[fncceo]

we'll grow our own armies, and stock them with legitimately purchased US weapons.
that way, you can get some of your billions back..

Not holding my breath.

 

[peacefan]

Not holding my breath.

that US arrogance you display here is one of the major reasons we should develop our own armies all over the EU..

 

[Batcat]

America’s major political parties don’t have ‘the stomach’ to reform US gun laws

The Australian’s Adam Creighton says both of the major parties in America don’t have “the stomach” to reform the United States’ gun laws. “Because 30 per cent of Americans have a gun and 40 per cent of American households have access to a gun and so when you have that many guns in the country … it’s extremely difficult to regulate them,” Mr Creighton told Sky News host Chris Smith. “It’s really insoluble and terrible problem in my view.”

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i live in a country (The Netherlands) where it's illegal to bring weapons of ANY sort outside your home, or provoke fist-fights even in the slightest.

and we have a very peaceful country thanks to that regulation.

food for thought?

Becasue if they try they will get voted out of office. Because of COVID_19 and the rising crime rate more people are deciding to own and even carry firearms.

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Gun sales to Black buyers have surged. Gun store ownership by Black people has not.

Out of 6,000 gun stores in the U.S., just a handful have Black owners.

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2021 sees a dramatic surge in concealed carry permits being issued, with a 10.5% increase over 2020, for an overall total of 21.5 million.

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[peacefan]

Becasue if they try they will get voted out of office. Because of COVID_19 and the rising crime rate more people are deciding to own and even carry firearms.

well, you could also give your military a real job and let them house the homeless and police the streets (after some manhandling training of course)..

 

[fncceo]

that US arrogance you display here is one of the major reasons we should develop our own armies all over the EU..

And I fully support you in that effort. But, as long as you're living under our protection, you should just say thanks, and let us get on with our work.

 

[peacefan]

And I fully support you in that effort. But, as long as you're living under our protection, you should just say thanks, and let us get on with our work.

i'll say thanks, but with the reservation added that we see you engage in many unnecessary wars, just to keep yourselves strong and your defense industries selling weapons.

 

[cnm]

Are they Texan police? What do they need guns for?

 

[fncceo]

i'll say thanks, but with the reservation added that we see you engage in many unnecessary wars, just to keep yourselves strong and your defense industries selling weapons.

For what it's worth, I don't think US forces should be stationed outside of the US borders. I don't believe Americans should be involved in foreign wars.

But, the decision to send troops or not send troops overseas is an American decision. WE will make that decision in the family.

The US is a very innovative, technically-advanced, and productive nation. We make really good weapons. You have the choice of buying them, or not buying them. You also have the choice to build your own.

That is a decision for the Dutch people in their family.

 

[peacefan]

For what it's worth, I don't think US forces should be stationed outside of the US borders. I don't believe Americans should be involved in foreign wars.

But, the decision to send troops or not send troops overseas is an American decision. WE will make that decision in the family.

The US is a very innovative, technically-advanced, and productive nation. We make really good weapons. You have the choice of buying them, or not buying them. You also have the choice to build your own.

That is a decision for the Dutch people in their family.

well, it remains an uncomfortable fact of life that the US drags it's allies into any war it engages in.
we had to assist you in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, etc.

that invites terror strikes against us, and risks the lives of our soldiers as well.
sometimes for causes that we don't agree with.

yet, i agree with your argumentation here.
it's well-presented.

 

[fncceo]

we had to assist you in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, etc.

Had to? It was a choice that your country made. Live with those choices or make different ones.

 

[protectionist]

America’s major political parties don’t have ‘the stomach’ to reform US gun laws

The Australian’s Adam Creighton says both of the major parties in America don’t have “the stomach” to reform the United States’ gun laws. “Because 30 per cent of Americans have a gun and 40 per cent of American households have access to a gun and so when you have that many guns in the country … it’s extremely difficult to regulate them,” Mr Creighton told Sky News host Chris Smith. “It’s really insoluble and terrible problem in my view.”

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i live in a country (The Netherlands) where it's illegal to bring weapons of ANY sort outside your home, or provoke fist-fights even in the slightest.

and we have a very peaceful country thanks to that regulation.

food for thought?

1. It is illegal to provoke a fist fight in the US also. Personal threats are illegal, but we do have free speech, so I don't know the Dutch mean by "provoke".

2. Making it "illegal to bring weapons of ANY sort outside your home" is asking for crime. That would increase crime, not reduce it. A blessing for criminals. When will liberals ever realize this ?

 

[protectionist]

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There appears to be profits involved in the discussion making around gun-control laws.

There already ARE red flag laws, and background checks that go through a national crime database.
What expansions of background checks are these senators considering ? Or are they just posturing to their voter base ?

 

[protectionist]

please don't pretend you know about the day to day situation in my country.

we all find it a fine arrangement, over here.

keeps all violence between citizens under strict control, and if a psycho walks into the street with even a knife on him, he is quickly shot down by police. we had an incident like that in my own city just a year ago.

You think shooting somebody for carrying a knife is proper ? That's insane. Have you ever heard of self-defense ? How do you propose that people defend themselves from robbers and attackers ? By offering them a lollipop ?

 

[protectionist]

Lauren Boebert’s bizarre defence for no gun action: ‘After 9/11, we didn’t ban planes’

We can protect children ‘without trying to disarm law-abiding citizens’, says Republican

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i find this Republican's argumentation completely ludicrous.

Upon what basis ?

 

[protectionist]

You Americans have no qualms about advising us on how to live our lives,
so i have no qualms about doing the same to you..
And we'd rather grow our own defense industries over here in Europe, and reserve the right not to help you out in future unjust wars you might start.

Past history doesn't coincide with that, however. Example > World War 2.

 

[protectionist]

Access to firearms is regulated in America. Reform U.S. gun laws? How so? Precisely what "insoluble and terrible problem" is Creighton alluding to?

Good question. I was wondering the same thing. What does he mean by "regulate" ?

 

[protectionist]

you think we don't need to check for guns everywhere all the time?
we do have to, and we do.
bankrobbers still have guns over here, but they are smart enough to use them only in a heist.

other than that, criminals know that there are stiff jail sentences on getting caught with a gun on them or in their home/car.

Criminals are banned from having guns here in the US too.