Americans favor continued support for Israel but still sour on Biden's performance overall: POLL

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Wrong.
By stealing 85% of Palestine and illegally blockading the rest, Israel bears all the guilt.
It is Zionists who started all the terrorism, like bombing the King David hotel to make the peace keepers leave, so the Zionists could start massacring hundreds of Arab villages like Deir Yassin.

Ancient f-ing history! What does any of that have to do with 10/7? Not a damned thing!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The majority supported every war, but they were still wrong, the wars were evil, and the country was harmed by taking the immoral side.
Biden is on the wrong side in Palestine and the Ukraine, and it is destroying us.
He added over $16 trillion to a national debt we already cannot afford.

You are free to leave this country at any time. Do we need to start up a collection?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Wrong.
Hamas is the victims of the crimes, and more than justfied.
Do some reading.
Look up Irgun, bombing of the King David hotel, gunning down of Folke Bernadotte, and massacre of hundreds of native villages like Deir Yassin, etc.

None of those occurred even in my lifetime. I have eaten lunch at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. The total death toll of those incidents pales in comparison to recent events.

 

[BluesLegend]

Wrong.
Hamas is the victims of the crimes, and more than justfied.
Do some reading.
Look up Irgun, bombing of the King David hotel, gunning down of Folke Bernadotte, and massacre of hundreds of native villages like Deir Yassin, etc.

Shut up or we'll flatten Gaza and remove Hamas from planet earth.

 

[Rigby5]

Blame Hamas.

Why blame Hamas?
They did not start it, and have the right of self defense when their whole country is stolen and they are being starved to death by an illegal blockade.

 

[Rigby5]

Killing the terrorists that shattered the last peace.

Israel has never held to a single agreement.
They continually illegally confiscate homes.

 

[Oldestyle]

Wrong.
Their country was stolen, and they were being illegally starved to death.
That is more than enough justification to take hostages.

Oh, fuck you, Rigby! If Hamas spent half the money that they used to build their tunnels on food for the Palestinian people nobody would be starving! There is no justification for raping women, beheading babies and taking civilians hostage. That is such heinous behavior that Hamas has lost ALL sympathy for not only themselves but also for the Palestinian people who enabled them! They are animals and need to be put down!

 

[Rigby5]

None of those occurred even in my lifetime. I have eaten lunch at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. The total death toll of those incidents pales in comparison to recent events.

The historical perspective is just to show who started it, how vicious they were, and how the criminal responsible, Menachim Begin, was still elected prime minister by Israelis.

The death toll of the King David Hotel bombing or gunning down the UN moderator is not relevant.
The point is why these murders took place, which was to eliminate any one who could then later interfere with the deliberate massacre of hundreds of Arab native villages like Deir Yassin.
Compare maps yourself, from Palestine 1945 to Palestine and Israel 1950.
There are hundreds of missing native villages.
We only know about Deir Yassin massacre because Albert Einstein happened to be in Jerusalem when the survivors were paraded through, before being shot and killed.
He wrote letters about it.
It is well documented.

Then forward to 1967 when the Israelis started the war with a sneak attack on the Egyptian airfields, before invading Jerusalem and the West Bank. Clearly that was a violation of the UN partition, and the US should have acted against this obvious aggression.

The fact that this is not just an obvious invasion because it is being so slowly, does not make it any better.
This worse then Hitler invading Poland. At least Hitler had some justification because it used to be East Prussia before the Treaty of Versailles, and he did not intend to massacre the natives.
Israel has no rights at all, never owned the land, did not pay for any land, and does obviously intend genocide.

The claim of the ancient kingdom of Israel is silly.
The ancient Israelis were Hebrew, which is a type of Arab.
And modern Israelis look nothing remotely like the ancient Hebrew.
Nor were the ancient Hebrew nice.
They themselves claim to have committed genocide of the Canaanites they defeated at Jericho.
They earned no rights to any land from the way they acted.
All the other tribes hated them for their arrogance, and they were kicked out by the Assyrians, Babylonians, Seleucids, and Romans.
That is unheard of.
No one else got kicked out.
So obviously it is how the Hebrew acted that keeps getting them into trouble.
Instead they keep trying to blame ever one else.

 

[Rigby5]

Shut up or we'll flatten Gaza and remove Hamas from planet earth.

It is not hard to "flatten" unarmed natives, but it is still immoral, illegal, and an obvious war crime.

 

[Rigby5]

Oh, fuck you, Rigby! If Hamas spent half the money that they used to build their tunnels on food for the Palestinian people nobody would be starving! There is no justification for raping women, beheading babies and taking civilians hostage. That is such heinous behavior that Hamas has lost ALL sympathy for not only themselves but also for the Palestinian people who enabled them! They are animals and need to be put down!

That is a lie.
The people of Gaza and the West Bank are both starving because Israel illegal limits transportations, goods, business, etc.
The tunnels cost nothing because there is no employment and people have nothing else to do.

The beheading babies and raping women has been proven to be totally lies.
There are no missing babies, and the women hostages are being returned, without any stories of rape.
So the evil is from those who made up these lies, not from the Palestinians.

 

[Rigby5]

Ancient f-ing history! What does any of that have to do with 10/7? Not a damned thing!

Wrong.
There are homes illegally confiscated by Israel every single day.
And each one is as illegal as Hitler invading Poland.
The fact Israel is stretching it out over 80 years does not improve anything.

 

[Rigby5]

You are free to leave this country at any time. Do we need to start up a collection?

Those who start illegal wars are criminals and it us our responsibility as tax payers, to punish them.
We are financing the weapons they use.
We then are complicit unless we do something.

 

[Dragonlady]

Americans favor continued support for Israel but still sour on Biden's performance overall: POLL​

Heading into 2024, the president battles low confidence in his leadership.​

Americans favor continued support for Israel but still sour on Biden's performance overall: POLL

A poll shows Americans favor continued support for Israel but are still sour toward Biden’s performance overall

abcnews.go.com

15 Oct 2023 ~~ By Brittany Shepherd


A plurality of Americans back what the United States is doing to support Israel in the war against the Islamic militant group Hamas and an additional 29% think the country should be doing even more.
Still, a majority of the public also disapproves of President Joe Biden's handling of the conflict as well as a range of other issues, according to a new ABC News/Ipsos poll, a warning sign for him as he launches his bid for reelection.
At least 1,300 people have died and 3,227 others have been injured in Israel after Hamas launched a devastating, gruesome attack from several fronts on Oct. 7, Israeli authorities said. Militants entered homes, killed families and took more than 100 captives back to Gaza, including women, children and the elderly. They also gunned down hundreds celebrating at an Israeli music festival.
~Snip~
Following Hamas' attack, Israel also cut off Gaza's access to electricity and water supplies -- a move that will not be reversed until scores of hostages are returned home, said Israeli Energy Minister Israel Katz. Members of the Israeli special forces entered Gaza on Friday in efforts to locate and free hostages, according to an Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesperson. Officials in Israel say they have alerted 120 families that their loved ones are located in Gaza.
Forty-nine percent of Americans say the United States is doing "about the right amount" to support Israel in its war with Hamas, while 29% say the U.S. is actually doing too little, per the latest ABC News/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos' Knowledge Panel.
~Snip~
These views differ from another major international conflict going on now, Ukraine's war with Russia. In this case, one in three Americans say the U.S. is doing too much to support Ukraine. A plurality (42%) says the U.S. is doing "about the right amount," while 22% believe too little is being done. On this issue, Republicans are more likely to say the U.S. is doing too much. A plurality of Republicans (44%) feels this way, compared to only 15% of Democrats and 34% of independents. Most Democrats, 57%, say the U.S. is doing "about the right amount" to help Ukraine compared to 35% of Republicans and 40% of independents.
~Snip~
Despite the country's desire for the current level or increased support for Israel, in line with Biden's stance, a majority, 54%, disapprove of his handling of the conflict between Israel and Hamas. A little more than two in five Americans (41%) approve of the president's handling of the issue.
Heading into a presidential election year, Biden will have to battle low confidence in his leadership across a number of issues. A majority of Americans continue to disapprove of his handling of the economy, crime, climate change, inflation, gun violence, the situation with Russia and Ukraine and immigration across the U.S.-Mexico border. Approval of Biden's handling of crime and climate change has declined since the January ABC News/Ipsos poll.
See more:

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/americans-split-us-responsibility-ensure-peace-middle-east

Commentary:
I'm surprised that ABC would admit this and print it
Apparently the majority of US Citizens are smarter than the US political/media class.

American approve of everything Joe Biden does, but they still don't like Joe Biden. Makes about as much sense and anything Americans do.

 

[Doc7505]

That is a lie.
The people of Gaza and the West Bank are both starving because Israel illegal limits transportations, goods, business, etc.
The tunnels cost nothing because there is no employment and people have nothing else to do.

The beheading babies and raping women has been proven to be totally lies.
There are no missing babies, and the women hostages are being returned, without any stories of rape.
So the evil is from those who made up these lies, not from the Palestinians.

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Then you claim the raped, beheaded and mutilated body of Shani Lohri did not occur?

Sexual and gender-based violence in the 7 October attack on Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Hamas terrorists raped women, used shovel to behead victim who fought assault

A survivor of Hamas Oct 7 massacre said he sees the terrified faces of the women who were raped and killed by the terror group in his nightmares At one point during the attacks, he was forced to hide ...

www.christianpost.com

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Kill, behead, rape: Interrogated Hamas members detail atrocities against civilians

Clips released by Israeli security bodies show terrorists who took part in October 7 onslaught describing orders to dismember victims, murder women and children

www.timesofisrael.com

shani Lohri was raped, beheaded and mutilated?killed at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

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[Doc7505]

Why blame Hamas?
They did not start it, and have the right of self defense when their whole country is stolen and they are being starved to death by an illegal blockade.

~~~~~~
Self defense does not include surprise attacks on civilians, killing children, raping men and women or taking them hostage.
That is TERRORISM.

 

[Doc7505]

American approve of everything Joe Biden does, but they still don't like Joe Biden. Makes about as much sense and anything Americans do.

~~~~~~

Watch This Old Gaza Woman Fact-Check a Biased Reporter

pjmedia.com

 

[Missourian]

Israel has never held to a single agreement.
They continually illegally confiscate homes.

Fakest of fake news.

Israel turned Gaza over in 2005.

They left the buildings, the greenhouses, moved out every Israeli..
they even took their dead out of ground.

And what did the "Palestinians" do?

Set up a thriving country like the Israelis did?

Fuck no. They elected a terrorist government and looted then burn down the greenhouses.


"American Jewish donors had bought more than 3,000 greenhouses from Israeli settlers in Gaza for $14 million last month and transferred them to the Palestinian Authority. Former World Bank President James Wolfensohn, who brokered the deal, put up $500,000 of his own cash.

Palestinian police stood by helplessly Tuesday as looters carted off materials from greenhouses in several settlements, and commanders complained they did not have enough manpower to protect the prized assets. In some instances, there was no security and in others, police even joined the looters, witnesses said."

Looters strip Gaza greenhouses

Palestinians looted dozens of greenhouses on Tuesday, walking off with irrigation hoses, water pumps and plastic sheeting in a blow to fledgling efforts to reconstruct the Gaza Strip.

www.nbcnews.com

Now go fuck yourself you lying antisemite terrorist.

 

[Oldestyle]

That is a lie.
The people of Gaza and the West Bank are both starving because Israel illegal limits transportations, goods, business, etc.
The tunnels cost nothing because there is no employment and people have nothing else to do.

The beheading babies and raping women has been proven to be totally lies.
There are no missing babies, and the women hostages are being returned, without any stories of rape.
So the evil is from those who made up these lies, not from the Palestinians.

You are either the most naively ignorant poster on this board, Rigby...or you are willing to lie for a bunch of butchers!
Let me guess...you don't think the Nazis killed Jews either?

 

[Oldestyle]

That is a lie.
The people of Gaza and the West Bank are both starving because Israel illegal limits transportations, goods, business, etc.
The tunnels cost nothing because there is no employment and people have nothing else to do.

The beheading babies and raping women has been proven to be totally lies.
There are no missing babies, and the women hostages are being returned, without any stories of rape.
So the evil is from those who made up these lies, not from the Palestinians.

The tunnels cost nothing? God, you're a moron!
Israel places limits on the people of Gaza because the people of Gaza keep attacking Israel. Gaza COULD be a garden spot of the Middle East! It isn't because the Palestinians prefer war over peace. They spend money on weapons that could have been spent on peaceful pursuits. That's a fact.

 

[Blaster]

Wrong.
Their country was stolen, and they were being illegally starved to death.
That is more than enough justification to take hostages.

Taking innocent civilians hostage is never acceptable.