American Women Are Giving Up on Marriage

Many women have multiple sex partners and are happy living alone. I can't remember the last time I didn't get to bang a woman on the first date. :)

I think they will be happy about it until they hit 30 and all the single men want to "bang" 22 year olds.
 
It is weird because it is a lifestyle that is entirely fictional when you come right down to it. It is based on an “ideal” of family and women that existed more in television than life. In real is a role that women were FORCED to accept because laws did not allow them to open a bank account without their husband, to get loan, a mortgage or a credit card no matter how much of a wastrel the husband was. When a woman married she could be fired because she “no longer needed the job”.

Part of the Trad Wife thing is that she completely subordinates her sense of self to her husband in the ideal of a fifties “housewife”. She is discouraged from intellectual conversation, her work rearing children and maintaining a household is largely unacknowledged as “work” and subordinated to her husbands “real work”.

And here’s the thing…women not only fought hard for the right to have a career, but they also fought to have their work raising children and managing a household to valued as work as well.



But that isn’t what the Trad Wife movement really is. Many Trad Wives don’t even have children for example.

Men and women bring different strengths to a relationship, but those aren’t necessarily aligned with strict gender roles. A man might be the primary breadwinner but his wife might be more astute with managing their finances. A woman might have the better career options and a man might have a work from home job enabling him to be the one there with children, and he may enjoy that. Or they might split it.

OR, what is much more realistic, and has often the case for many women…they can’t afford to live on just one salary. That is why the Trad Wife thing usually requires a degree of wealth. If you look at the most visible “influencers” for it, their husbands bring in a lot of money which allows her the choice.


? What does government have to do with it?

It is about choice.




What does that have to do with anything other than a redirection?


I don’t watch long videos. I do read a lot however and reading is my preferred mode. :)


You act like housewives didn't exist. They did. They raised the Greatest Generation. Look at America's cities today.
Children and teens run amuck killing each other. That wasn't happening before the Left's social revolution.
 
What is fictional is not women choosing to stay at home and raise children. Many women choose to. They are not “Trad Wives”. What is fictional (and weird) is the entire lifestyle persona they’ve created and defined as “Trad Wife”.

You are thinking I’m against stay at home mothers, I’m not. I’m 100% about choice and thanks to millions of women who had no choice and fought for the right to have choice, these now do and I support it.





That is complete bullshit (pardon my French). The women’s lib movement started with a simple desire to have the same rights as men have.

The right to vote.
The right to work in any career.
The right to have a career.
The right to get a credit card, sign for a mortgage or a loan.
The right not to be fired because she was pregnant.
The right to work without being sexually harassed,
The right to report a rape with being blamed for it or told to just sit back and enjoy it.
The right to leave an abusive marriage.
The right to choose.

There is more. But none of it has anything to do with “globalism”.
The right to divorce for no reason.
The right to half of what a man has earned.
The right to control a divorced man's access to his children.


This is why many young men have given up on women.
 
When I was growing up being married to an Asian was pretty common. Lots of guys in the Navy married Japanese and Filipino women. In the Army it was mostly Koreans because of where they were stationed.

My Uncle Bob married a Korean lady. Aunt Jason. She was really nice. She eventually divorced him because he was a jerk. My mom said the last time she saw him he weighed over 400 lbs. He asked mom to make him a birthday cake, and he proceeded to eat the entire cake. What a catch.

Uncle Bob had 3 kids with Aunt Jason. John John, Rubie, and the youngest Eyisha. I'm not sure if that's how it was spelled. Aunt Jason was very short and super nice.

I had a gf in the Phillipines that I might have married, but just had this feeling that it wasn't gonna work out. You really have to be a good person and someone I can trust to make me want to get married. Elouise had been married twice before, but her husbands liked to beat her up. I was her 3rd husband. I was the only one that lasted. Her friends said it wouldn't last. I was fortunate to stay with her for the rest of her life on Earth.
She always worried about her retirement. I told her a long time ago that I was her retirement. I would take care of her. That's the way it worked out.
The last couple of years she kept trying to pack her things and go back to Florida to be with her mom. I kept telling her that her mom died before I had a chance to meet her. But every day she would start putting things in boxes and asking me if I could put them in the truck. I never did. I think it was just her way of saying she wanted to go back home before she died.
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Hard to watch. In my hubby's last months, it was a task to learn to speak with him in a way that made sense to him. Most of the time, we were in Bellevue, where we never lived, at the home of a long time girlfriend that felt he jilted her, waiting for a taxi to take us to the opera. It was a process to watch a wonderful mind disintegrate.

I guess, in a way, our last few posts are not as off topic as I at first thought they were. You showed us what made you a good husband to a woman who may very well have given up on marriage, and I talked about what made me a good wife when my husband most needed me.

Thanks.


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Couple of points.

1. The failure of the concept of marriage has led women to be pursuing the top 20% of men. This leads them to effectively "sharing" that group, teaching those men to be "players" while teaching the bottom 80% to be resentful. All of that leads to fewer good marriages.


2. Women as a group, want economic equality, but a spouse that makes more money than them. This is a set up for failure.

3. CHOICE, is removed when government policy is such that TWO incomes are required to be financially self sufficent.


4. You don't need a stay at home parent forever. Me and my wife managed to avoid daycare almost completely simply by one of us being PART TIME and careful scheduling of shifts. And only for the first... 4? 5? years of the child's life.

5. I regularly see tired moms, being mean to their children. The having a job, picking the kid up from day care, tired from work and then being tired with a kid that wants attention and dinner, or THREE of them, is a set up for mean moms. I think we have an issue with moms doing a bad, or not good job withe their children, and we haven't even looked at this problem yet.


6. This issue is bad for women, bad for men, bad for children and bad for society as a whole. Yet, any attempt to even discuss it, tends to get shouted down by lefties.
 
Most guys except for the Chad's and Tyrones....you know....the broke losers who hang out at the gym. They only are interested in knocking up women but are uninterested in having kids.

Aren't there "Chad's" who make 6 figures or more who have their choice of a larger percentage of women and move from
woman to woman? That's what I see men complaining about on social media.
 
The right to divorce for no reason.
The right to half of what a man has earned.
The right to control a divorced man's access to his children.


This is why many young men have given up on women.
I have dated many women but didn't consider marriage until I met by current fiancee. Not that many women are good marriage material and spend too much time taking selfies of themselves.
 
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Hard to watch. In my hubby's last months, it was a task to learn to speak with him in a way that made sense to him. Most of the time, we were in Bellevue, where we never lived, at the home of a long time girlfriend that felt he jilted her, waiting for a taxi to take us to the opera. It was a process to watch a wonderful mind disintegrate.

I guess, in a way, our last few posts are not as off topic as I at first thought they were. You showed us what made you a good husband to a woman who may very well have given up on marriage, and I talked about what made me a good wife when my husband most needed me.

Thanks.


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Everyone has bad spots in their marriage. I was almost 19 years younger than her when I met her. I was her boy-toy.

She couldn't have kids because she had cysts on her ovaries and had them removed. I wanted to have kids, and that was the biggest issue we had. Eventually I just gave up on the idea once I got old enough to not have the energy for raising kids anymore. If she had told me from the start that she couldn't have kids I might have left her. I really don't know. But she waited till we had been together for 6 months before she told me. Her previous bf left her for that reason. But I was too much into it to leave. I couldn't live with myself if I had done that. I just felt I could see myself growing old with her, and that was the important thing. She was really a wonderful person.

Everybody loved her, or if they didn't like her, it was because they were jealous of her. She was pretty and outgoing. Never met a stranger. She was a real handful. The type of person that lights up a room when she walks in.
 
Everyone has bad spots in their marriage. I was almost 19 years younger than her when I met her. I was her boy-toy.

She couldn't have kids because she had cysts on her ovaries and had them removed. I wanted to have kids, and that was the biggest issue we had. Eventually I just gave up on the idea once I got old enough to not have the energy for raising kids anymore. If she had told me from the start that she couldn't have kids I might have left her. I really don't know. But she waited till we had been together for 6 months before she told me. Her previous bf left her for that reason. But I was too much into it to leave. I couldn't live with myself if I had done that. I just felt I could see myself growing old with her, and that was the important thing. She was really a wonderful person.

Everybody loved her, or if they didn't like her, it was because they were jealous of her. She was pretty and outgoing. Never met a stranger. She was a real handful. The type of person that lights up a room when she walks in.
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I also gave up on having children because my husband was also 18 years older than me, had had his family and had a vasectomy. Such is life.


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I also gave up on having children because my husband was also 18 years older than me, had had his family and had a vasectomy. Such is life.


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Biggest worry I have now is who is going to help me when I get too old to do the chores.
I just hope I don't get dementia and end up in a memory facility.
That's one of the reason kids are important. Somebody has to care for their parents.
It's also one of the reasons we should love our kids no matter how old they get, and remind them that you love them.
It helps them become better more compassionate adults. But it also assures that they don't abandon you at the drop of a hat.
 
Aren't there "Chad's" who make 6 figures or more who have their choice of a larger percentage of women and move from
woman to woman? That's what I see men complaining about on social media.
Until the cost of that sort of behavior becomes cost prohibitive.

Elon can testify to this. Lots of women will inject fertility drugs before having sex with him just so they can have his child. Because child support from the wealthiest man in the world is more than enough to live off of.

That can get very expensive for the pseudo rich.

Then there's those who reverse their consent after having sex. Meaning they claim rape after having consensual sex. And it's difficult for the guy to claim it was consensual. Especially when she took back her consent after the fact.
 
Until the cost of that sort of behavior becomes cost prohibitive.

Elon can testify to this. Lots of women will inject fertility drugs before having sex with him just so they can have his child. Because child support from the wealthiest man in the world is more than enough to live off of.

That can get very expensive for the pseudo rich.

Not every Chad is as careless in this respect as Musk is.
 
Biggest worry I have now is who is going to help me when I get too old to do the chores.
I just hope I don't get dementia and end up in a memory facility.
That's one of the reason kids are important. Somebody has to care for their parents.
It's also one of the reasons we should love our kids no matter how old they get, and remind them that you love them.
It helps them become better more compassionate adults. But it also assures that they don't abandon you at the drop of a hat.
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Me too.

At least I can afford that eventuality. I feel for those who can't afford elder care and end up on the street.


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Not every Chad is as careless in this respect as Musk is.
A lot of them are just flaunting a few flashy items and aren't really wealthy....they are credit card rich.

Meaning they have no career, job, or stable income. Maybe just a few dollars in Inheritance.
Lots of phony rich out there "flexing" some wealth but not really having any.
 
A lot of them are just flaunting a few flashy items and aren't really wealthy....they are credit card rich.

Meaning they have no career, job, or stable income. Maybe just a few dollars in Inheritance.
Lots of phony rich out there "flexing" some wealth but not really having any.

They certainly know what bait to use. :laughing0301:
 
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Me too.

At least I can afford that eventuality. I feel for those who can't afford elder care and end up on the street.


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It's costs $5000 per month to keep someone in a memory facility.
They take all of your pensions and social security and give you back $50 per month.
And they keep you until you die.
My older brother said he had checked into it.

My mom lived in assisted living for 10 years, and they kept trying to send her to a nursing home when she got really old. She lived till she was 93.
 
They certainly know what bait to use. :laughing0301:
The truly wealthy are trying to stay anonymous and hide the fact they have money. They wear bespoke instead of brand name. Drive beat up old vehicles that are in perfect working order and immaculately clean on the inside. Don't wear a lot of jewelry or expensive watches.

But when asked they know every banking law there is....like daily credit limits on credit cards. (Yes. There are such things)

The wealthy didn't become wealthy by spending money...they became wealthy by earning and saving just like most.
 
It's costs $5000 per month to keep someone in a memory facility.
They take all of your pensions and social security and give you back $50 per month.
And they keep you until you die.
My older brother said he had checked into it.

My mom lived in assisted living for 10 years, and they kept trying to send her to a nursing home when she got really old. She lived till she was 93.
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This is why I admire you, hanging in to the end of your wife's life, and keeping her at home. I started losing my mind being the sole care giver, and placed my hubby in a memory care facility close enough that I could spend most of my days there, helping with his care, helping him feel more like he was at home, and still get some sleep.

We totally lucked out because the VA was in the process of getting his disability certified. Once they finally reached the award of 100% disability, the back pay was great enough that it paid for a huge chunk of the $7K per month cost of his care, for the nine months he was there.


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This is why I admire you, hanging in to the end of your wife's life, and keeping her at home. I started losing my mind being the sole care giver, and placed my hubby in a memory care facility close enough that I could spend most of my days there, helping with his care, helping him feel more like he was at home, and still get some sleep.

We totally lucked out because the VA was in the process of getting his disability certified. Once they finally reached the award of 100% disability, the back pay was great enough that it paid for a huge chunk of the $7K per month cost of his care, for the nine months he was there.


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Couple of years ago I looked into putting Elouise in a memory care facility. I found out the costs. But I just didn't feel right about it. I couldn't stand having her stay somewhere else. Up till the end I slept next to her in bed. I just woke up one morning and she was gone.

Sure it was difficult, but leaving her in a facility would have been even worse. Right now I'm lonely and it would have been the same if she was still alive. She got really sick in the 21st of December and I had to call an ambulance. When I saw her in the hospital, it drove me crazy. So I asked around and got in touch with a Hospice program and we brought her home on Christmas Eve. She lasted till Jan 19th. But it was worth it to have her next to me.
 

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