American Women Are Giving Up on Marriage

[DonGlock26]

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Translation -- "I have no answer to your specific question, so here's some babble".



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Basically, here's a straw man argument.

 

[Vastator]

No one is talking about mandatory child rearing. That's just a strawman argument. There are demographic consequences to a below replacement birth rate that should be discussed.

In the immediate term, the only real negative is the spending of the socialist, ponzi schemes that Americans, and the government rely on. SS require a forever growing tax base to remain solvent, and fulfill its obligations. But a never ending population increase is impossible.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

No one is talking about mandatory child rearing. That's just a strawman argument. There are demographic consequences to a below replacement birth rate that should be discussed.

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It's amazing how they've worked themselves into a frenzy over their made up "mandatory child rearing".

Sounds to me more like they need to maintain their mandatory promiscuous sex, and we know who the father of that lie is.


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[MisterBeale]

What is it you dislike that we should not be allowed to do or have!

Not a damn thing.


Trad wife literally means, "traditional wife."


This bothers the establishment SO MUCH, it finds a few women that were unhappy in that situation, and then it goes on to smear these folks. . . and you sit there and tell me;

Trad Wife is a very specific lifestyle, it’s not just a stay at home traditional mom lifestyle. I’m not defining it, they are.

. . . when I already pointed out in the previous post what you were doing. But? You ignored it and doubled down.

I'm afraid we cannot come to an accord, if you get to define this however you wish.
It is not about women's rights, nor is it about the struggle of feminists for equality.

. . . That traditional gender roles had once been codified in law? Makes not a lick of difference here.

Seriously, that is what this movement is all about. . . FAMILY AND COMMUNITY stability.

If you need to construct straw-men to beat this down, IMO, you have already lost.

Of course I can find lots of establishment media that slag these women, as this type of thinking and feeling is a threat to the government and establishment. Anyone that had read and understood their Orwell, know this already.


There is no room for discussion here, when you want to force your narrative on others who just disagree. Time and time again, folks give you information you don't like, so you deny it and spin it, just like those in the MAGA cult.



Me? I got nothing against women wanting to live how they want. You OTH? Want to cast negative aspersions upon those who do not live in your narrative.

 

[Coyote]

Not a damn thing.


Trad wife literally means, "traditional wife."


This bothers the establishment SO MUCH, it finds a few women that were unhappy in that situation, and then it goes on to smear these folks. . . and you sit there and tell me;



. . . when I already pointed out in the previous post what you were doing. But? You ignored it and doubled down.





Of course I can find lots of establishment media that slag these women, as this type of thinking and feeling is a threat to the government and establishment. Anyone that had read and understood their Orwell, know this already.


There is no room for discussion here, when you want to force your narrative on others who just disagree. Time and time again, folks give you information you don't like, so you deny it and spin it, just like those in the MAGA cult.



Me? I got nothing against women wanting to live how they want. You OTH? Want to cast negative aspersions upon those who do not live in your narrative.

Woah. I'm not "forcing" any narrative on anyone, if you think so then you clearlt haven't read what I wrote or you can't tolerate a different opinion.

I'm about choice and always have been.

Trad Wife is not "traditional wife" it is a lifestyle created and promoted by influencers on TikTok and for some, it provides a way of coping with an uncertain world.

Traditional wives, defined as stay-home mothers do not have to ask their husband's permission to leave the house and go shopping, they do not need permission tovote or be told who to vote for. They don't do housework in heels and make up because that is silly and they do not have to hide their intelligence so as not to upstage their husband because they are equal partners.

If women choose a life that mandates that kind of subservience that is their choice but to glorify it seems silly, you can be a "traditional wife" with out the cartoonish lifestyle that is ultimately unhealthy and unsustainable.

 

[MisterBeale]

Traditional wives, defined as stay-home mothers do not have to ask their husband's permission to leave the house and go shopping, they do not need permission tovote or be told who to vote for. They don't do housework in heels and make up because that is silly and they do not have to hide their intelligence so as not to upstage their husband because they are equal partners.

Again, if you need to define the terms of the discussion?

No discussion is possible.

I don't even know what your problem with my original post was, or why you commented on it, other than to prove;

Traditional men/women roles are, according to the left, a right-wing and white supremacist narrative.

Q.E.D.

 

[initforme]

No one is talking about mandatory child rearing. That's just a strawman argument. There are demographic consequences to a below replacement birth rate that should be discussed.

We have more than enough births. Fake news.

 

[DonGlock26]

We have more than enough births. Fake news.

Enough for what?

 

[initforme]

Basically, here's a straw man argument.

The strawman argument is that there's not enough babies being born. Pure nonsense not worthy of an ounce of concern

 

[initforme]

Enough for what?

Forv"replacement"...

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The strawman argument is that there's not enough babies being born. Pure nonsense not worthy of an ounce of concern

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Thanks for sharing your opinion.




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[initforme]

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Thanks for sharing your opinion.




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Just setting the facts straight is all.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Just setting the facts straight is all.

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By adding your opinion.




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[initforme]

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By adding your opinion.




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So am I supposed to believe we don't have enough births? Since when?

 

[DonGlock26]

Forv"replacement"...

We don't want to be Japan or South Korea.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/01/asia/japan-demographic-crisis-population-intl-hnk-dst/index.html

 

[toobfreak]

Traditional wives, defined as stay-home mothers

Isn't that a housewife? Usually a mom who is raising a family and essentially does all of the work to keep the home operating smoothly except the heavy chores like roof repair, plumbing and stuff like that the husband does plus he brings home the bacon from a job to pay for the cost of everything. He is gone all day generating an income while the housewife is home all day keeping all the ducks in order.

Must be a pretty good system as it worked well for essentially, probably the last few hundreds of thousands of years.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Isn't that a housewife? Usually a mom who is raising a family and essentially does all of the work to keep the home operating smoothly except the heavy chores like roof repair, plumbing and stuff like that the husband does plus he brings home the bacon from a job to pay for the cost of everything. He is gone all day generating an income while the housewife is home all day keeping all the ducks in order.

Must be a pretty good system as it worked well for essentially, probably the last few hundreds of thousands of years.

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I love living in an environment where housewives are greatly respected and revered.

Not only do they run the house and raise MANY children -- I have a friend who lost her husband's labor due to injury, and so she's handling the lambing of their approximately 150 sheep all by herself.

What an admirable woman. Also tends to the needs of our church in caring for the altar.


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[initforme]

We don't want to be Japan or South Korea.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/01/asia/japan-demographic-crisis-population-intl-hnk-dst/index.html

We aren't. This is a drummed up fake issue. I think it's a great thing. Those that want kids are having them. Those that don't aren't. The way it should be. Like there's something wrong with a young married couple not having kids.

 

[initforme]

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I love living in an environment where housewives are greatly respected and revered.

Not only do they run the house and raise MANY children -- I have a friend who lost her husband's labor due to injury, and so she's handling the lambing of their approximately 150 sheep all by herself.

What an admirable woman. Also tends to the needs of our church in caring for the altar.


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I agree. But in most households it takes 2 working full time to make it. They don't want kids. I fully support their freedom not to nor would I ever encourage the opposite. Kuds are a choice not a duty nor responsibility to have them. Leave having kids to those who want them. Again, where's the isdue?

 

[initforme]

Isn't that a housewife? Usually a mom who is raising a family and essentially does all of the work to keep the home operating smoothly except the heavy chores like roof repair, plumbing and stuff like that the husband does plus he brings home the bacon from a job to pay for the cost of everything. He is gone all day generating an income while the housewife is home all day keeping all the ducks in order.

Must be a pretty good system as it worked well for essentially, probably the last few hundreds of thousands of years.

Those scenarios. while admirable, are deteriorating. Times are changing. It's not a bad thing.