American Women Are Giving Up on Marriage

[JohnDB]

Guys don't necessarily want a trad wife....

They want an EQUAL partner who needs them as much as the guys want her.

Difficult concept for people to come go grips with.

 

[1srelluc]

Have a job and don’t be an ass and you’re basically a chick magnet. Too many guys can’t pull off both.

Damn, I agree with you on something!

Still, it just feels wrong somehow.

Another point, women like a man that is well turned-out and fit. That often made the difference when all men had decent jobs.

Oddly enough (not so odd really) it was the union pukes that were the real assholes.

 

[Coyote]

It's not fictional at all. Plenty of women choose to be a stay-at-home mom, instead of having someone else raise their kids...at least for the early years. What's weird is that you think there's something wrong with that, and that you think its weird. From a common sense standpoint, wouldn't you agree that it's better for the kids to have at least one parent at home, so they can spend time with their kids during those important early years?

What is fictional is not women choosing to stay at home and raise children. Many women choose to. They are not “Trad Wives”. What is fictional (and weird) is the entire lifestyle persona they’ve created and defined as “Trad Wife”.

You are thinking I’m against stay at home mothers, I’m not. I’m 100% about choice and thanks to millions of women who had no choice and fought for the right to have choice, these now do and I support it.

Btw, according to the late Aaron Russo, who was friends with one of the Rockefellers.... the whole "women's lib" movement was started by the globalists, not for noble reasons, but to be able to tax the other half of the population, and to get the kids in school at an earlier age, so they can indoctrinate them young.

Here's a clip from a longer interview....

That is complete bullshit (pardon my French). The women’s lib movement started with a simple desire to have the same rights as men have.

The right to vote.
The right to work in any career.
The right to have a career.
The right to get a credit card, sign for a mortgage or a loan.
The right not to be fired because she was pregnant.
The right to work without being sexually harassed,
The right to report a rape with being blamed for it or told to just sit back and enjoy it.
The right to leave an abusive marriage.
The right to choose.

There is more. But none of it has anything to do with “globalism”.

 

[1srelluc]

Guys don't necessarily want a trad wife....

They want an EQUAL partner who needs them as much as the guys want her.

Difficult concept for people to come go grips with.

How many guys are we talking about here?

 

[JohnDB]

How many guys are we talking about here?

Most guys except for the Chad's and Tyrones....you know....the broke losers who hang out at the gym. They only are interested in knocking up women but are uninterested in having kids.

 

[MisterBeale]

That is complete bullshit (pardon my French). The women’s lib movement started with a simple desire to have the same rights as men have.

The right to vote.
The right to work in any career.
The right to have a career.
The right to get a credit card, sign for a mortgage or a loan.
The right not to be fired because she was pregnant.
The right to work without being sexually harassed,
The right to report a rape with being blamed for it or told to just sit back and enjoy it.
The right to leave an abusive marriage.
The right to choose.

There is more. But none of it has anything to do with “globalism”.

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[Unkotare]

I'd rather get a mail-order Koran bride.

Why do you specifically want a Muslim bride?

 

[TheInfiniteSadness]

A 2022 Pew survey of single adults showed only 34% of single women were looking for romance, compared with 54% of single men, down from 38% and 61% in 2019.

https://archive.is/s3g3f#selection-5991.0-5991.157

Well it doesn't take rocket science to figure it out. Men aren't looking for romance, they're looking to get laid.

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[Unkotare]

Women have been becoming more educated and professionally successful for decades. This is a not unexpected consequence. The only "solution" is a massive cultural shift and/or improvements in the medical ability for women to have children later in life, along with a general extension in longevity. And so-called "men" need to grow the **** up.

 

[Vastator]

Whew! I nearly have up on this place for entertainment. But there are still some laughs to be had i see. Even the comical premise of this thread. "Women have given up on marriage". Now that's funny shit right there. Top shelf copium. If it were more realistic, and introspective, it would read more like; "women have resigned themselves to the fact, that they can't get a man to marry them". Only through that lens might they begin to take the introspective assessments of why, and possibly make corrective changes. After all; men are are the gatekeepers of marriage. So if a woman's single; it's not because she just doesn't want to get married. More often than not; it's because no man wants to marry her. A bitter pill to swallow, I know. But it is, what it is...

 

[SweetSue92]

"American Women Are Giving Up on Marriage


Major demographic shifts have put men and women on divergent paths. That’s left more women resigned to being single. ‘The numbers aren’t netting out.’
After a handful of underwhelming relationships and dozens of disappointing first dates, Andrea Vorlicek recently called off the search for a husband.
The 29-year-old always thought she’d have found her life partner by now. Instead, she’s house hunting solo and considering having kids on her own.

“I’m financially self-sufficient enough to do these things myself,” said Vorlicek, a Boston-based accountant. “I’m willing to accept being single versus settling for someone who isn’t the right fit.”
She sees her plans for an independent future as making the best of a lousy situation. “I don’t want to sit here and say I’m 100% happy,” Vorlicek said. “But I feel happier just accepting my reality. It’s mentally and emotionally a sense of peace.”

American women have never been this resigned to staying single. They are responding to major demographic shifts, including huge and growing gender gaps in economic and educational attainment, political affiliation and beliefs about what a family should look like.
“The numbers aren’t netting out,” said Daniel Cox, director of the"

https://archive.is/s3g3f#selection-5933.0-5965.66

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/relationships/american-women-are-giving-up-on-marriage-54840971

This does not bode well for the nation as a whole. There will be a lot of lonely cat ladies in a decade or two.

I don't know friends. It's really discouraging to me how soft we've become.

All over social media I see new moms complaining how they regret having kids, how it's too hard. Hell yeah. It's the hardest thing you will ever do. We used to understand and even respect that, but these moms just come off selfish to me.

Yes, you will often have to put your own self-interest aside for the good of your children. And your spouse. But so few seem ready to do that these days. Always ME FIRST

 

[JohnDB]

I don't know friends. It's really discouraging to me how soft we've become.

All over social media I see new moms complaining how they regret having kids, how it's too hard. Hell yeah. It's the hardest thing you will ever do. We used to understand and even respect that, but these moms just come off selfish to me.

Yes, you will often have to put your own self-interest aside for the good of your children. And your spouse. But so few seem ready to do that these days. Always ME FIRST

In marriage....
Both husband and wife put the other one first. Its just how it's successfully done.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Not all of them are. It used to be they wouldn't allow a non-white or a woman to have the power of the priesthood*. Every male church member was given the power after they are baptized into the church.
It's the same blessing that Jesus gave the Disciples when he told them to go out and heal the sick.

*That practice ended in 78' thanks to a declaration from the prophet.

I never took Elouise to Sacrament in the LDS church because I didn't want to deal with the nasty looks. They didn't believe in mixed marriages back then. I've had years of nasty looks from old ladies when Elouise and I went shopping. The cashiers would always ask if we were together. That ended about 10-15 years ago.

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Different story -- I never received the derisive looks and stuff about my interracial marriage. Why is it different when it's a white and an Asian? Guess it might have been different back around the end of WWII, when there were still signs that said "No Japs".


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[Coyote]

When the C.I.A. Duped College Students

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www.newyorker.com

https://archive.ph/wqTaf

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Keyword: co-opting. That is not the entirety or start of the movement.

The movement itself was about rights, choice and equality for women. What is it you dislike that we should not be allowed to do or have!

I fail to understand why people think this is a bad thing for women to get equal, be serve in political office or have the right to their own decisions about their bodies. That isn’t radical at all.

Why should women should be required to retreat into more restricted roles to make a segment of society feel better? If they want to, that is absolutely fine because because in the end what matters is that they can choose.

 

[mudwhistle]

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Different story -- I never received the derisive looks and stuff about my interracial marriage. Why is it different when it's a white and an Asian? Guess it might have been different back around the end of WWII, when there were still signs that said "No Japs".


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When I was growing up being married to an Asian was pretty common. Lots of guys in the Navy married Japanese and Filipino women. In the Army it was mostly Koreans because of where they were stationed.

My Uncle Bob married a Korean lady. Aunt Jason. She was really nice. She eventually divorced him because he was a jerk. My mom said the last time she saw him he weighed over 400 lbs. He asked mom to make him a birthday cake, and he proceeded to eat the entire cake. What a catch.

Uncle Bob had 3 kids with Aunt Jason. John John, Rubie, and the youngest Eyisha. I'm not sure if that's how it was spelled. Aunt Jason was very short and super nice.

I had a gf in the Phillipines that I might have married, but just had this feeling that it wasn't gonna work out. You really have to be a good person and someone I can trust to make me want to get married. Elouise had been married twice before, but her husbands liked to beat her up. I was her 3rd husband. I was the only one that lasted. Her friends said it wouldn't last. I was fortunate to stay with her for the rest of her life on Earth.
She always worried about her retirement. I told her a long time ago that I was her retirement. I would take care of her. That's the way it worked out.
The last couple of years she kept trying to pack her things and go back to Florida to be with her mom. I kept telling her that her mom died before I had a chance to meet her. But every day she would start putting things in boxes and asking me if I could put them in the truck. I never did. I think it was just her way of saying she wanted to go back home before she died.

 

[DonGlock26]

Women are not giving up on men....
It's actually the other way around.

Men have decided in droves not to seek relationships with women. Because of child support payments after ten years of marriage really sucks. You don't get your kid but have to support her lifestyle of being on a sausage carousel.

And guys are tired of being blamed as "bad guys" when they did nothing wrong.

So....
Men are becoming increasingly uninterested in engaging in relationships with women. Especially ones with butterfly tattoos on their chest, ones with social media profiles that features photos of her half naked, or ones with any sort of piercings outside of one each ear. They flat our don't want to even go on coffee dates with them much less cocktails at a bar.

Especially during difficult financial times where jobs and incomes are tight....guys just dont want to risk their lifestyles on dating. Lots of risks and very poor odds of any benefits resulting from a quasi positive relationship.

I believe you are right about the male side of the issue. I have heard a lot of young men complain that 90% of the women are pursuing 20% of the men on social media who are over 6' tall and make 6 figures.

 

[DonGlock26]

I can't take anyone seriously who talks about Globalism like it's a real thing.

That's why you are usually wrong.

 

[DonGlock26]

There is nothing wrong with traditional roles.

As long as “choice” still exists.

But this “Trad Wife” thing? It’s just weird.

For one, few women, historically, were able to live like that…it’s a game and one that requires a degree of wealth to play.

My mother’s generation fought to have the right to work, have her own checking account and credit cards, to be able to get a mortgage or a loan without a husbands signature. These “Trad Wives” have no clue what it was like for for their grandmothers who did not have those choices. If they want to completely give up their financial independence completely to the husband (rather than sharing it) they better hope he doesn’t trade them in for a newer later in life.

Yeah, women back then had to raise their own children and maintain a house hold rather than pawn it off on a migrant or two.

 

[mudwhistle]

Many women have multiple sex partners and are happy living alone. I can't remember the last time I didn't get to bang a woman on the first date.

Many women have a case of Chlamydia too.