America was not founded on....

[Winston]

So many myths dominate American discourse today and religion is one of the big sticks.

“the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

"Speaking at a rally on the steps of the U.S. Capitol on May 16, 1920, Baptist theologian George Washington Truett proudly declared that the separation of church and state was “preeminently a Baptist achievement.”

Perspective | I know Roy Moore. He’s always been a con artist.


"The Real Origins of the Religious Right - They’ll tell you it was abortion. Sorry, the historical record’s clear: It was segregation.""

The Real Origins of the Religious Right


"But the abortion myth quickly collapses under historical scrutiny. In fact, it wasn’t until 1979—a full six years after Roe—that evangelical leaders, at the behest of conservative activist Paul Weyrich, seized on abortion not for moral reasons, but as a rallying-cry to deny President Jimmy Carter a second term. Why? Because the anti-abortion crusade was more palatable than the religious right’s real motive: protecting segregated schools."

"The abuse of women and girls is the most pervasive and unaddressed human rights violation on earth." Jimmy Carter

"Abolition of a woman's right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the State." Edward Abbey

/----/ "“the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”" Sure Sparky: “their Creator,” in “they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights” and “Laws of Nature and of Nature's God” near the beginning of the Declaration refer to God;

And in the Federalist papers: Federal Theology: God & Federalist Papers
On one hand the authors expressed their faith-based beliefs but on the other hand they forged ahead in making certain that religion would not be permitted to divide the people or to otherwise tyrannize any individual or group.

However, by their very example in writing the Federalist Papers, its authors showed that while government may not make any law respecting an establishment of religion, expressions of faith-based beliefs are natural and wholesome whether in government or among the populace, the only criteria in government being to steadfastly remain within the expressed bounds of both the letter and spirit of the second amendment law.

What part of "their creator" do you not understand? It doesn't say "the" creator. It doesn't say "our" creator. It says "THEIR" creator. Which makes an established state religion impossible.

 

[Winston]

America was indeed founded on Christian principles. After the very first president was elected, he and all of Congress spent the rest of the day, on their knees, in a Christian church, asking God to bless this Nation, and guide them to do His will. And God did. In abundance.
Praying to Him was never in doubt or questioned when Congress convened. And it wasn't for show, or a lack of political correctness, or to push an agenda. It was Christian men wanting God's help in creating a nation. Not only was it NOT separated from their governance, it was an integral part of it.

Separation of church and state was to protect the church from government interference, as was the case in England. It in no way was meant to keep God out of our government. Here is the proof of that:

You mean the prayer by Jacob Duche, who was convicted of HIGH TREASON, had all his property confiscated, and fled to England?

 

[Moonglow]

Where in the Constitution does it establish Christianity as the state religion?

 

[The Irish Ram]

America was indeed founded on Christian principles. After the very first president was elected, he and all of Congress spent the rest of the day, on their knees, in a Christian church, asking God to bless this Nation, and guide them to do His will. And God did. In abundance.
Praying to Him was never in doubt or questioned when Congress convened. And it wasn't for show, or a lack of political correctness, or to push an agenda. It was Christian men wanting God's help in creating a nation. Not only was it NOT separated from their governance, it was an integral part of it.

Separation of church and state was to protect the church from government interference, as was the case in England. It in no way was meant to keep God out of our government. Here is the proof of that:

You mean the prayer by Jacob Duche, who was convicted of HIGH TREASON, had all his property confiscated, and fled to England?

I mean all of those men on their knees. What do you think is going on in those pics? Did someone lose a contact?

 

[Winston]

America was indeed founded on Christian principles. After the very first president was elected, he and all of Congress spent the rest of the day, on their knees, in a Christian church, asking God to bless this Nation, and guide them to do His will. And God did. In abundance.
Praying to Him was never in doubt or questioned when Congress convened. And it wasn't for show, or a lack of political correctness, or to push an agenda. It was Christian men wanting God's help in creating a nation. Not only was it NOT separated from their governance, it was an integral part of it.

Separation of church and state was to protect the church from government interference, as was the case in England. It in no way was meant to keep God out of our government. Here is the proof of that:

You mean the prayer by Jacob Duche, who was convicted of HIGH TREASON, had all his property confiscated, and fled to England?

I mean all of those men on their knees. What do you think is going on in those pics? Did someone lose a contact?

I hate to break it to you, but the first was not a "picture". What, you think one of the delegates whooped out his cellphone and snapped a "picture" in black and white? It is a painting, and even in that, several of the delegates were having a conversation during the "prayer". Seems like they were not all the "religious", even as depicted in the painting.

 

[The Irish Ram]

People who believe that Christ is the Son of God are Christians. It is what He did, not what we do that salvages us.

 

[Cellblock2429]

America was indeed founded on Christian principles. After the very first president was elected, he and all of Congress spent the rest of the day, on their knees, in a Christian church, asking God to bless this Nation, and guide them to do His will. And God did. In abundance.
Praying to Him was never in doubt or questioned when Congress convened. And it wasn't for show, or a lack of political correctness, or to push an agenda. It was Christian men wanting God's help in creating a nation. Not only was it NOT separated from their governance, it was an integral part of it.

Separation of church and state was to protect the church from government interference, as was the case in England. It in no way was meant to keep God out of our government. Here is the proof of that:

You mean the prayer by Jacob Duche, who was convicted of HIGH TREASON, had all his property confiscated, and fled to England?

I mean all of those men on their knees. What do you think is going on in those pics? Did someone lose a contact?

I hate to break it to you, but the first was not a "picture". What, you think one of the delegates whooped out his cellphone and snapped a "picture" in black and white? It is a painting, and even in that, several of the delegates were having a conversation during the "prayer". Seems like they were not all the "religious", even as depicted in the painting.

/----/The painting was a composite drawn and painted from memory. It was common practice in those days for the painter to combine individuals and pose them to fit in one frame. JUST an FYI

 

[The Irish Ram]

America was indeed founded on Christian principles. After the very first president was elected, he and all of Congress spent the rest of the day, on their knees, in a Christian church, asking God to bless this Nation, and guide them to do His will. And God did. In abundance.
Praying to Him was never in doubt or questioned when Congress convened. And it wasn't for show, or a lack of political correctness, or to push an agenda. It was Christian men wanting God's help in creating a nation. Not only was it NOT separated from their governance, it was an integral part of it.

Separation of church and state was to protect the church from government interference, as was the case in England. It in no way was meant to keep God out of our government. Here is the proof of that:

You mean the prayer by Jacob Duche, who was convicted of HIGH TREASON, had all his property confiscated, and fled to England?

I mean all of those men on their knees. What do you think is going on in those pics? Did someone lose a contact?

I hate to break it to you, but the first was not a "picture". What, you think one of the delegates whooped out his cellphone and snapped a "picture" in black and white? It is a painting, and even in that, several of the delegates were having a conversation during the "prayer". Seems like they were not all the "religious", even as depicted in the painting.

Not all the religious were praying. THE REST WERE....

 

[BS Filter]

Another thread from the left trying to deny that the United States was founded by men that believed the Bible and believed in God the Creator.

 

[BS Filter]

People who believe that Christ is the Son of God are Christians. It is what He did, not what we do that salvages us.

Exactly. Our faith is in what Jesus did, not in our own good works. Jesus saves us.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

We were founded on Rome. Rome is our template

 

[Penelope]

America was indeed founded on Christian principles. After the very first president was elected, he and all of Congress spent the rest of the day, on their knees, in a Christian church, asking God to bless this Nation, and guide them to do His will. And God did. In abundance.
Praying to Him was never in doubt or questioned when Congress convened. And it wasn't for show, or a lack of political correctness, or to push an agenda. It was Christian men wanting God's help in creating a nation. Not only was it NOT separated from their governance, it was an integral part of it.

Separation of church and state was to protect the church from government interference, as was the case in England. It in no way was meant to keep God out of our government. Here is the proof of that:

You seen the kneelers and I see those who are standing and bowing their heads. Its called peer pressure.

 

[BS Filter]

We were founded on Rome. Rome is our template

Really. Who was the first Emperor?

 

[Penelope]

We were founded on Rome. Rome is our template

Really. Who was the first Emperor?

Washington. I guess you do not know about the Apotheosis of Washington.
His ascension.
The Apotheosis of Washington - Wikipedia

Also the stature of Liberty is Goddess Libertas, a Roman Goddess. We are also a republic.

 

[ding]

So many myths dominate American discourse today and religion is one of the big sticks.

“the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

"Speaking at a rally on the steps of the U.S. Capitol on May 16, 1920, Baptist theologian George Washington Truett proudly declared that the separation of church and state was “preeminently a Baptist achievement.”

Perspective | I know Roy Moore. He’s always been a con artist.


"The Real Origins of the Religious Right - They’ll tell you it was abortion. Sorry, the historical record’s clear: It was segregation.""

The Real Origins of the Religious Right


"But the abortion myth quickly collapses under historical scrutiny. In fact, it wasn’t until 1979—a full six years after Roe—that evangelical leaders, at the behest of conservative activist Paul Weyrich, seized on abortion not for moral reasons, but as a rallying-cry to deny President Jimmy Carter a second term. Why? Because the anti-abortion crusade was more palatable than the religious right’s real motive: protecting segregated schools."

"The abuse of women and girls is the most pervasive and unaddressed human rights violation on earth." Jimmy Carter

"Abolition of a woman's right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the State." Edward Abbey

That would have been the Democrats doing.

 

[jillian]

More insane hatred from the left.

yes, a vicious pack of truths.

the founders were largely deists and they didn't want the religious zealots running things.

 

[BS Filter]

More insane hatred from the left.

yes, a vicious pack of truths.

the founders were largely deists and they didn't want the religious zealots running things.

They were Christians and believed in the God of the Bible. Next thing you'll tell me is Jefferson had a Quran because he was fond of Islam, huh.

 

[jillian]

More insane hatred from the left.

yes, a vicious pack of truths.

the founders were largely deists and they didn't want the religious zealots running things.

They were Christians and believed in the God of the Bible.

not in the least. I thought you're supposed to be a BS filter....

there is a reason the first amendment separates church and state and prohibits a religious test for office and prohibits a dominant religion.

. “If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
~Founding Father George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789

35 Founding Father Quotes Conservative Christians Will Hate

 

[80zephyr]

America was indeed founded on Christian principles. After the very first president was elected, he and all of Congress spent the rest of the day, on their knees, in a Christian church, asking God to bless this Nation, and guide them to do His will. And God did. In abundance.
Praying to Him was never in doubt or questioned when Congress convened. And it wasn't for show, or a lack of political correctness, or to push an agenda. It was Christian men wanting God's help in creating a nation. Not only was it NOT separated from their governance, it was an integral part of it.

Separation of church and state was to protect the church from government interference, as was the case in England. It in no way was meant to keep God out of our government. Here is the proof of that:

Separation of Church and State was to ensure freedom of religion, not just Christianity. It was not to protect the church from the government, but to protect the gov from the church.

If you are right then they would have all been guilty of breaking their own law.
Do you disbelieve that there was a first prayer in Congress? Did you miss who it was addressed to? They reiterate at the end, and took possession of God's Son as their Savior.
While, with respect to religion, covers all churches and members of a said group,
They made it very apparent which God they were praying to and asking for guidance from.
Color has nothing to do with the OP. Which has been proven to be incorrect.

Agreed. They lived the Constitution. Who better to show us what they meant than the people who passed it.

Mark

 

[80zephyr]

The myth of America being “founded on the Christian religion” is one of the more pernicious lies propagated by the right.

Conservatives use this lie to justify their opposition to the Framers’ mandate that church and state remain separate, and to justify their hostility toward the privacy rights of women.

Then why didn't the founders live like you say they wanted the nation to be?

This is like the 2nd Amendment where the left claims it applies to a militia. If so, it should be easy to show us examples of unarmed citizens and armories full of guns after the Constitution passed.

What you are preaching is not the reality the founders lived.

Mark