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America is on the wrong track

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Poll: Most say US on wrong track - US news - Life - msnbc.com



The survey found 49 percent of Americans held a negative view of Republicans after the deal was reached, and 42 percent held a negative opinion of the conservative Tea Party movement. Tea Party conservatives stuck closely to their demand that deficit reduction be handled solely through spending cuts and were willing to risk a default to achieve their aims.

By contrast, 40 percent of those polled saw Democrats in a negative light.

"Coming out of this, the Republicans are I think taking the balance of the blame for the debt deal negotiations,"
 

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oh neat ...
 
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They dont like your republican extremism
 

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They dont like your republican extremism

Wanting to reduce our debt, stop spending money we simply do not have, and to live within our means is republican extremism? It's common sense and it has to be done or we go down the tubes. What part of that don't you get?

The poll results? msnbc. Say. No. More!

What these polls show is that Obama and the Dem's 'blame' meme is working well. Surprise, surprise.
 

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Must be all that positive, truthful, non-biased coverage by the media. Why would they believe anything else?
 
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Your Historically failed ideas are not going over with the people.

You will have to cheat much harder in elections now.

That means you will get caught soon
 

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Nt
 

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Your Historically failed ideas are not going over with the people.

You will have to cheat much harder in elections now.

That means you will get caught soon

The historical ideals are bankrupt. No that isnt going over very well But you can always fall back too...................................................

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That wins them over every time. :lol:
 

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I have a great idea! We'll have a referendum on this in Nov 2012.

On the one hand we have the Dems (running on the same platform as the Communists) on the other the Tea Party.

Let's just do it and see what happens!
 

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Hell yes, it's on the wrong track.

Been on the wrong track for the last 50 years.

That's why its is so foolish to try to blme Bush II or Obama for everything that happens on their watch, isn't it?

Every leader inherits the good and the bad outcomes that happened before they came to power.

They can ONLY be faulted for what they personally had control over.

And given the way our government works, that's not really all that much.

The POTUS doesn't write the laws, he doesn't control the economy, and he certainly doesn't control wall street.

Simplifying our enormously complex historical past down to some cult of personality political explanation for what is going on is childish.
 

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I have a great idea! We'll have a referendum on this in Nov 2012.

On the one hand we have the Dems (running on the same platform as the Communists) on the other the Tea Party.

Let's just do it and see what happens!

We don't live in a democracy. I have no desire to have a democracy.

Mike
 
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Mike you do live in a democracy by the definition of the word
 
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Democracy - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary




de·moc·ra·cy
noun \di-ˈmä-krə-sē\


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a: government by the people; especially: rule of the majority b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
 
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Mike you do live in a democracy by the definition of the word
No. We used to live in a Representative Republic. That is untill the Government created their "Council of 13". Now we live under a Tyrannical Dictatorship.
 
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How many times do you have to be shown that the very definitions of words PROVE that our form of government is a type of democracy?
 
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Democracy - New World Encyclopedia



Forms of democracy


There are many variations on the forms of government that put ultimate rule in the citizens of a state:



Representative democracy

Representative democracy involves the selection of the legislature and executive by a popular election. Representatives are to make make decisions on behalf of those they represent. They retain the freedom to exercise their own judgment. Their constituents can communicate with them on important issues and choose a new representative in the next election if they are dissatisfied.

There are a number of systems of varying degrees of complexity for choosing representatives. They may be elected by a particular district (or constituency), or represent the electorate as a whole as in many proportional systems.



Liberal democracy

Classical liberal democracy is normally a representative democracy along with the protection of minorities, the rule of law, a separation of powers, and protection of liberties (thus the name "liberal") of speech, assembly, religion, and property.

Since the 1960s the term "liberal" has been used, often pejoratively, towards those legislatures that are liberal with state money and redistribute it to create a welfare state. However, this would be an illiberal democracy in classical terms, because it does not protect the property its citizens acquire.



Direct democracy

Direct democracy is a political system in which the citizens vote on major policy decisions and laws. Issues are resolved by popular vote, or referenda. Many people think direct democracy is the purest form of democracy. Direct democracies function better in small communities or in areas where people have a high degree of independence and self-sufficiency. Switzerland is a direct democracy where new laws often need a referendum in order to be passed. As it is a very stable and prosperous country, few people see any urgent need for change and so few new laws are passed. The system is also very decentralized, with few policies decided on a national level. This means that the French, Italian, and Romance language speaking minorities can order their affairs the way they choose and the large Swiss-German-speaking majority cannot over rule the local level, even if it wanted to.



Socialist democracy

Socialism, where the state economy is shaped by the government, has some forms that are based on democracy. Social democracy, democratic socialism, and the dictatorship of the proletariat are some examples of names applied to the ideal of a socialist democracy. Many democratic socialists and social democrats believe in a form of welfare state and workplace democracy produced by legislation by a representative democracy.

Marxist-Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists, and other "orthodox Marxists" generally promote democratic centralism, but they have never formed actual societies which were not ruled by elites who had acquired government power. Libertarian socialists generally believe in direct democracy and Libertarian Marxists often believe in a consociational state that combines consensus democracy with representative democracy. Such consensus democracy has existed in local-level community groups in rural communist China.



Anarchist democracy

The only form of democracy considered acceptable to many anarchists is direct democracy, which historically discriminates against minorities. However, some anarchists oppose direct democracy. Pierre-Joseph Proudhon argued that the only acceptable form of direct democracy is one in which it is recognized that majority decisions are not binding on the minority, even when unanimous.[18] However, anarcho-communist Murray Bookchin criticized individualist anarchists for opposing democracy,[19] and says "majority rule" is consistent with anarchism.



Sortition

Sortition (or allotment) has formed the basis of systems randomly selecting officers from the population. A much noted classical example would be the ancient Athenian democracy. Drawing by lot from a pool of qualified people elected by the citizens would be a democratic variation on sortition. Such a process would reduce the ability of wealthy contributors or election rigging to guarantee an outcome, and the problems associated with incumbent advantages would be eliminated.



Tribal and consensus democracy

Certain ethnic tribes organized themselves using different forms of participatory democracy or consensus democracy.[20] However, these are generally face-to-face communities, and it is difficult to develop consensus in a large impersonal modern bureaucratic state. Consensus democracy and deliberative democracy seek consensus among the people.[21]
 
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They dont like your republican extremism

Wanting to reduce our debt, stop spending money we simply do not have, and to live within our means is republican extremism? It's common sense and it has to be done or we go down the tubes. What part of that don't you get?

The poll results? msnbc. Say. No. More!

What these polls show is that Obama and the Dem's 'blame' meme is working well. Surprise, surprise.

well to dimwitted dimocwats like truth'don'tmeanshit it seems extreme for sure.
 
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You fight isnt with me its with every dictionary and every encyclopedia
 

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TruthMatters: Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?

Ben Franklin: A Republic, if you can keep it.

TruthMatters: Nu uhh, it's a Democracy!
 

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Hey TM, How's you hammer hanging?
 

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