Amazing what politics does to people.

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

And the chickenshit mods here are still claiming she was "avoiding" the agent.

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When he had to take two or three steps to try to get out of her path, and he still gets hit, she was aiming that weapon.

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[Rawley]

Videos Contradict Trump Administration Account of ICE Shooting in Minneapolis​

An analysis of footage from three camera angles show that the vehicle appears to be turning away from a federal officer as he opened fire.

Have you asked your masters why that is relevant?

 

[berg80]

“Who, whom?”

It’s a famous formulation, originally attributed to Vladimir Lenin. It is a formula that abjures any principle in favor of raw power: Actions are justified not by abstract rules but because they are done by the right people, for the right people and to the wrong people.

Clearly, this is a formula for a police state, not a democracy where we are all equal before the law and where government power rests on the consent of the governed. But though we ought to know better, “Who, whom?” thinking pops up in democracies all the time.

In 2012, a group of law professors published the results of an experiment they had run on 202 adults who were shown a video of protesters. Participants were given the text of a law regarding protests at sensitive facilities and asked to determine whether the police had been justified in shutting down the protest.

Half were told that the video showed pro-life demonstrators at an abortion clinic. The other half were told the protest occurred outside a college career-placement office where military recruiters were conducting interviews, and that the protesters were rallying against the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy for gay and lesbian service members. The results were depressing, if not entirely surprising.

People disposed to support abortion rights and oppose “don’t ask, don’t tell” thought the police were justified in clearing protesters away from the abortion clinic but not the recruitment office. Those whose views went the other way reached the opposite conclusion from the same facts.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/01/10/minnesota-ice-shooting-video-blame/

trumples were told, immediately, Good was a domestic terrorist who tried to ram the officer. Neither is true. The rest is history.

But beyond a certain point, “Who, whom?” is irrelevant. It doesn’t matter whether Renée Good was a mother, a poet and a nice person, nor does it matter whether she was illegally hindering operations of ICE officers by blocking their vehicles, a tactic I disapprove of strongly but does not merit the death penalty. It doesn’t matter whether the operation was necessary or immoral. It doesn’t even matter whether she was fleeing the scene or disobeying orders — they had her license plate and could have arrested her at home. What matters is whether that officer reasonably believed she was a threat to him or other people.

We should not let this incident polarize us into a debate over whether cops are the good guys or the bad guys, as happened after George Floyd’s murder. We all have an interest in public order, which is why the “defund the police” movement was so misguided. But we also have an interest in regulating police power, because none of us wants to be in a world where we can be shot for failing to perfectly comply. We need police. But we also need guardrails to keep police power from being abused, which means we need to recognize that law enforcement officers are neither angels nor demons, always wrong or always right. They’re fallible human beings who have been given a tough job and awesome power.

 

[berg80]

The whole event rests on one trigger-happy ICE agent who made two errors in judgment: placing himself in front of a vehicle driven by a deranged person, and then, shooting that person.

Not close to deranged.

 

[22lcidw]

But beyond a certain point, “Who, whom?” is irrelevant. It doesn’t matter whether Renée Good was a mother, a poet and a nice person, nor does it matter whether she was illegally hindering operations of ICE officers by blocking their vehicles, a tactic I disapprove of strongly but does not merit the death penalty. It doesn’t matter whether the operation was necessary or immoral. It doesn’t even matter whether she was fleeing the scene or disobeying orders — they had her license plate and could have arrested her at home. What matters is whether that officer reasonably believed she was a threat to him or other people.

We should not let this incident polarize us into a debate over whether cops are the good guys or the bad guys, as happened after George Floyd’s murder. We all have an interest in public order, which is why the “defund the police” movement was so misguided. But we also have an interest in regulating police power, because none of us wants to be in a world where we can be shot for failing to perfectly comply. We need police. But we also need guardrails to keep police power from being abused, which means we need to recognize that law enforcement officers are neither angels nor demons, always wrong or always right. They’re fallible human beings who have been given a tough job and awesome power.

The other side has bent over backwards to not affect your insurrectionists. I thought this Progressive socialist extreme feminist woman and her partner from all of the TV programs and movies were going to beat the crap out of several ICE agents. What happened? Do not worry. There will be more endless TV programs and movies where the superwomen will do what I typed. She died because she was DEI Woke. And you have not yet begun to understand that. To die for nothing is stupidity. To die for the likes of corrupted stay in the shadow's politicians like Frey and Walz as the progressive controlled system brainwashed many citizens to get into the faces of other citizens is a disgrace. And when any citizens defend themself, they are the one who get charged of a crime and/or go to prison.

 

[Mac1958]

Not close to deranged.

She had just backed up, put it in drive, and turned her wheel to the right. The tires are facing right when she accelerates.

To deny that is either a lie or a delusion. Or, if possible, both at the same time.

This country exists in two separate realities. Perfect division for a madman to take over. By design, perhaps, since it worked 90 years ago.

 

[OldFlame]

She goaded them, they killed her. Case closed.

So you believe he intentionally killed her? Good Lord...

Yet her 'wife' was there goading them and filming them, yet she is still perfectly alive. How do you explain that?

 

[OldFlame]

No ICE agent's life was at risk from her. Hers was the only life at risk.

That's just a lie, if you can watch all of the videos out there and come to that conclusion, then you have my condolences.

 

[struth]

Videos Contradict Trump Administration Account of ICE Shooting in Minneapolis​

An analysis of footage from three camera angles show that the vehicle appears to be turning away from a federal officer as he opened fire.


Given the ICE agent's experience of having been dragged by a car during a prior incident I can understand him not wanting it to happen again. But she had turned her car sharply to the right, not at him, when he shot her.

Well this post didn’t age well

 

[Woodznutz]

So you believe he intentionally killed her? Good Lord...

Yet her 'wife' was there goading them and filming them, yet she is still perfectly alive. How do you explain that?

She wasn't driving.

 

[OldFlame]

She wasn't driving.

So she was shot because she was 'driving'? Hopefully you intentionally misunderstood the point of my comment.

 

[OldFlame]

No ICE agent's life was at risk from her. Hers was the only life at risk.

Not true, even remotely.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Not true, even remotely.

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If anyone has listened to what the "protesters" are screaming at an anti-Ice "protest", it's 95% about killing the ICE agents.

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[Woodznutz]

So she was shot because she was 'driving'? Hopefully you intentionally misunderstood the point of my comment.

The driver was the 'threat', not the one with the camera.

 

[Woodznutz]

Not true, even remotely.

What injuries did the agent suffer?

 

[Care4all]

a clear video that showed the woman hit the officer and the left claims it doesnt show that. the officers video is clear as day.

Does it show her trying to murder the officer? No, it doesnt. So what is your point? What justifies him killing her on the spot? Point blank range? Nothing.

Facts, are facts. Stop pushing the lies!

 

[OldFlame]

What injuries did the agent suffer?

So if an officer shoots and kills someone that had a gun pointed at them prior to that person actually pulling the trigger, they were in the wrong and shouldn't have fired their weapon? They should wait to see if the criminal INTENDS to actually shoot them before they take action? How is a vehicle coming at you any different than her standing there with a gun pointed straight at him?

And the fact that you believe officers, who see the worst of humanity on a daily basis and put their lives on the line every day, should just be willing to find out what someone's intentions are prior to taking action, is completely ludicrous.

 

[Marener]

Her car bumped him. It didn’t run him over. He wasn’t almost killed. She wasn’t trying to murder anyone.

The cop shot her needlessly. Killing her did nothing to protect anyone or anything.

 

[Woodznutz]

So if an officer shoots and kills someone that had a gun pointed at them prior to that person actually pulling the trigger, they were in the wrong and shouldn't have fired their weapon? They should wait to see if the criminal INTENDS to actually shoot them before they take action? How is a vehicle coming at you any different than her standing there with a gun pointed straight at him?

And the fact that you believe officers, who see the worst of humanity on a daily basis and put their lives on the line every day, should just be willing to find out what someone's intentions are prior to taking action, is completely ludicrous.

If she was trying to "kill" him, why did she try to avoid him by turning her wheels? He shot her after he was out of her path of travel. Draw a line between the first bullet hole in the windshield and her head. This would place him at the side of her vehicle when he fired, not in front of it. He was already out of any danger when he murdered her.

 

[OldFlame]

If she was trying to "kill" him, why did she try to avoid him by turning her wheels? He shot her after he was out of her path of travel. Draw a line between the first bullet hole in the windshield and her head. This would place him at the side of her vehicle when he fired, not in front of it. He was already out of any danger when he murdered her.

What I bolded is simply not true. I think she didn't even see him and was trying to get away from the other officer and intended to go down the street because ICE was the other direction. Her wheels slipped for a second on the ice whenever she gunned the engine or I think the officer in the front would have been much more badly injured if not killed. He had a split second to make a decision that could either leave him dead or save his life, and he did what he thought he needed to do. It was a tragedy that was completely avoidable, and her own actions led to her own death, period.

You keep wanting to focus on what her intentions were, when her intentions are irrelevant to the discussion, so I don't know what else to tell you.