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The 'unthinkable' has just happened for solar power in Britain

It wont be long now. The world will be a better place.
Reliance upon solar in the UK, brilliant. :cuckoo:
Isnt it ? We are making so much progress.
You lefties lack brains.
1481 annual sunshine hours in London.
Don't call us when it clouds up for a day and you have no power.
As ever you miss the point completely. This is another step on the way. Renewables will power the world in the next few years.
 

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Best comment in that article;

""Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

You can't make this stuff up. Climate change is a false premise for regulating carbon dioxide emissions. Nature converts CO2 to limestone. Climate change may or may not be occurring, but is is for sure NOT caused by human fossil fuels use. There is no empirical evidence that fossil fuels use affects climate. Likely causes are well documented elsewhere.

Here's why. Fossil fuels emit only 3% of total CO2 emissions. 95% comes from rotting vegetation. All the ambient CO2 in the atmosphere is promptly converted in the oceans to limestone and other carbonates, mostly through biological paths. CO2 + CaO => CaCO3. The conversion rate increases with increasing CO2 partial pressure. An equilibrium-seeking mechanism.

99.84% of all carbon on earth is already sequestered as sediments in the lithosphere. The oceans convert CO2 to carbonate almost as soon as it is emitted. Everything else is sophistry or mass hysteria.

A modern coal power plant emits few pollutants except water vapor and carbon dioxide. Coal remains the lowest cost and most reliable source of electric energy.

"Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad." Longfellow"
 

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The Independent is RIIA propaganda pushing big global government socialism.
 

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The 'unthinkable' has just happened for solar power in Britain

It wont be long now. The world will be a better place.
Reliance upon solar in the UK, brilliant. :cuckoo:
Isnt it ? We are making so much progress.
You lefties lack brains.
1481 annual sunshine hours in London.
Don't call us when it clouds up for a day and you have no power.
Shhhhhhhhhhh.

His internet will be down.

Don't ruin a good thing.
 

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The 'unthinkable' has just happened for solar power in Britain

It wont be long now. The world will be a better place.
Reliance upon solar in the UK, brilliant. :cuckoo:
Isnt it ? We are making so much progress.
You lefties lack brains.
1481 annual sunshine hours in London.
Don't call us when it clouds up for a day and you have no power.
As ever you miss the point completely. This is another step on the way. Renewables will power the world in the next few years.
Renewables destroy the environment. Birds and raptors are killed by the millions every year by solar and wind power generation. Then it is cloudy with no wind. You can sit in the dark, I prefer the 21st century.
 

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Climate change may or may not be occurring, but is is for sure NOT caused by human fossil fuels use. There is no empirical evidence that fossil fuels use affects climate.
And yet, the percentage of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere keeps going up and up and up .... :eusa_whistle:
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Hey, Give Adolph's Taint a break here.

If the limey's can make solar work then good for them, great. I don't care if they recycle everything they eat.

In other words they can eat their own shit for all I care.

I have no problem if it's EFFICIENT. In other words it doesn't have to be subsidized by government because the costs of building and maintaining it are offset with profit. I'm all for investors establishing any sort of "renewable" energy if it doesn't cost the user an unreasonable amount, and doesn't have to be subsided by the user's taxes on top of their utility bill.

10 bucks says that isn't the case in the UK, but it's their money. I don't care if they waste it.



 

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Climate change may or may not be occurring, but is is for sure NOT caused by human fossil fuels use. There is no empirical evidence that fossil fuels use affects climate.
And yet, the percentage of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere keeps going up and up and up .... :eusa_whistle:
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Naturally.

If you are familiar with the ice core samples, as the average temperature of the Earth goes up, the atmosphere as I'm sure you would be aware, can hold more CO2, thus that equilibrium that we are talking about can be pushed upward.

None the less, the Earth's naturally ability to filter out CO2 will continue unabated.

That percentage will continue to increase as the temperature rises.

Classifying CO2, (the gas you exhale,) as a pollutant is the most absurd thing I have heard since classifying a plant as an illegal substance. Seriously though, if the big brother finds certain plants on your property, you could lose your house. That is how insane governments are. People believe this shit. Their breath is a pollutant which can be taxed and plants are illegal. wtf?
 

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Best comment in that article;

""Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

You can't make this stuff up. Climate change is a false premise for regulating carbon dioxide emissions. Nature converts CO2 to limestone. Climate change may or may not be occurring, but is is for sure NOT caused by human fossil fuels use. There is no empirical evidence that fossil fuels use affects climate. Likely causes are well documented elsewhere.

Here's why. Fossil fuels emit only 3% of total CO2 emissions. 95% comes from rotting vegetation. All the ambient CO2 in the atmosphere is promptly converted in the oceans to limestone and other carbonates, mostly through biological paths. CO2 + CaO => CaCO3. The conversion rate increases with increasing CO2 partial pressure. An equilibrium-seeking mechanism.

99.84% of all carbon on earth is already sequestered as sediments in the lithosphere. The oceans convert CO2 to carbonate almost as soon as it is emitted. Everything else is sophistry or mass hysteria.

A modern coal power plant emits few pollutants except water vapor and carbon dioxide. Coal remains the lowest cost and most reliable source of electric energy.

"Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad." Longfellow"
Do you have a degree in physics? Have you ever taken college level physics? Even have any physics in high school? If your answer is yes to any of these, were you sleeping for the whole of the class?

Greenhouse gases were defined in 1859 by John Tyndall of England. Svante Arrhenius of Sweden gave a very good estimate of what the doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere would do to the temperature of the globe in 1896. We are nearly half way there. We have added over 43% more CO2 to the atmosphere in the last 150 years. And have more than doubled the amount of CH4. And you say that we are having no affect on the temperature of this planet?
 

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Climate change may or may not be occurring, but is is for sure NOT caused by human fossil fuels use. There is no empirical evidence that fossil fuels use affects climate.
And yet, the percentage of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere keeps going up and up and up .... :eusa_whistle:
.
Naturally.

If you are familiar with the ice core samples, as the average temperature of the Earth goes up, the atmosphere as I'm sure you would be aware, can hold more CO2, thus that equilibrium that we are talking about can be pushed upward.

None the less, the Earth's naturally ability to filter out CO2 will continue unabated.

That percentage will continue to increase as the temperature rises.

Classifying CO2, (the gas you exhale,) as a pollutant is the most absurd thing I have heard since classifying a plant as an illegal substance. Seriously though, if the big brother finds certain plants on your property, you could lose your house. That is how insane governments are. People believe this shit. Their breath is a pollutant which can be taxed and plants are illegal. wtf?
Beale, sometime post an article from a peer reviewed journal that backs your silly flap yap. You cannot because there are no such articles. We know how much coal and oil we have burned. And if it were not for the oceans absorbing CO2, the percentage in the atmosphere would be far higher. However, as the oceans warm, they lose their ability to absorb CO2. So more of what we produce will stay in the atmosphere, and result in more rapid warming. There is no other source for the rapid increase in CO2 in the last 150 years.
 

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The 'unthinkable' has just happened for solar power in Britain

It wont be long now. The world will be a better place.
Reliance upon solar in the UK, brilliant. :cuckoo:
Isnt it ? We are making so much progress.
You lefties lack brains.
1481 annual sunshine hours in London.
Don't call us when it clouds up for a day and you have no power.
As ever you miss the point completely. This is another step on the way. Renewables will power the world in the next few years.
Renewables destroy the environment. Birds and raptors are killed by the millions every year by solar and wind power generation. Then it is cloudy with no wind. You can sit in the dark, I prefer the 21st century.
But birds produce carbon dioxide and are better off all dead.

Besides, most of them are regressive conservatives from what I hear.
 

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Hey, Give Adolph's Taint a break here.

If the limey's can make solar work then good for them, great. I don't care if they recycle everything they eat.

In other words they can eat their own shit for all I care.

I have no problem if it's EFFICIENT. In other words it doesn't have to be subsidized by government because the costs of building and maintaining it are offset with profit. I'm all for investors establishing any sort of "renewable" energy if it doesn't cost the user an unreasonable amount, and doesn't have to be subsided by the user's taxes on top of their utility bill.

10 bucks says that isn't the case in the UK, but it's their money. I don't care if they waste it.


Then you better have a talk with those ultra-liberal Texan's. They just keep installing more and more solar and wind power.




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The Roscoe Wind Farm in Roscoe, Texas, owned/operated by E.ON Climate & Renewables is one of the world’s largest wind farms. It has 634 wind turbines and a total installed capacity of 782 MW. Source: Recharge News

It was a predictable result, and one that confirms a widely held misconception on Green Energy leadership. My Google search just yielded: ”wind power California”…7.3 million responses….”wind power Texas”…5.6 million responses.

But, you should know that Texas produces about four times more wind power than 3rd place California and three times more than 2nd place Iowa. Pretty amazing for Texas, an energy juggernaut that also supplies about 28% of our natural gas and 37% of our crude oil. Texas has surged its wind power capacity 80% to 18,000 megawatts since 2010, with actual wind generation more than doubling over that time.

There are more than 10,000 wind turbines in Texas, and at times last winter, wind supplied 40-50% of the state’s electricity. The Great Texas Wind Boom has all come without much help from legendary Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens, who backed out of his grandiose wind plans in the state.
 

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Solar power starts ascent in Texas | Business | Dallas News

Texas is easily the No. 1 state in wind, with more than twice the capacity of California.

On solar, however, Texas has been lagging. It ranked No. 10 among the states in solar power as of September. Texas doesn’t match the incentives of some states and has an abundant supply of other cheap energy, including natural gas.

But prices for solar panels have fallen over 80 percent since 2009, making it competitive with fossil fuels. That’s ramped up the outlook in Texas, because there’s plenty of sun, a growing population, a huge electric load and a hyper-competitive electricity market.

Last year, solar installations on ERCOT grew almost 50 percent. This year, solar generation could jump sixfold, according to ERCOT projections, which are based on developer agreements to connect with the grid.

By 2030, solar will add 14,100 megawatts of power if proposed rules to cut emissions and haze remain in place, ERCOT estimates. That could power over 2 million homes in the summer. And if solar builds out as projected, it would account for more new capacity than wind and natural gas plants combined, ERCOT said.

Damn those ultra-liberals in Texas.
 
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Solar power starts ascent in Texas | Business | Dallas News

Texas is easily the No. 1 state in wind, with more than twice the capacity of California.

On solar, however, Texas has been lagging. It ranked No. 10 among the states in solar power as of September. Texas doesn’t match the incentives of some states and has an abundant supply of other cheap energy, including natural gas.

But prices for solar panels have fallen over 80 percent since 2009, making it competitive with fossil fuels. That’s ramped up the outlook in Texas, because there’s plenty of sun, a growing population, a huge electric load and a hyper-competitive electricity market.

Last year, solar installations on ERCOT grew almost 50 percent. This year, solar generation could jump sixfold, according to ERCOT projections, which are based on developer agreements to connect with the grid.

By 2030, solar will add 14,100 megawatts of power if proposed rules to cut emissions and haze remain in place, ERCOT estimates. That could power over 2 million homes in the summer. And if solar builds out as projected, it would account for more new capacity than wind and natural gas plants combined, ERCOT said.

Damn those ultra-liberals in Texas.
Its such an exciting time.
 

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