Amazing predictions from 1958 that came true will blow your Mind

[eflatminor]

I agree

Those predictions could not be further from the truth.

So typical. I called you out on every bullshit claim you made, so you double down on the lies. Yep, that's about what we've come to expect...

But we are talking about John Birchers here. When have they ever been right about anything?

Got it. When you have nothing to back up your claims, launch an ad hominem attack. Works every time...

Actually all your responses are unsupportable

Why should I bother with a response to something that is as ludicrous as the OP

Thanks for proving my point...

 

[daws101]

So typical. I called you out on every bullshit claim you made, so you double down on the lies. Yep, that's about what we've come to expect...



Got it. When you have nothing to back up your claims, launch an ad hominem attack. Works every time...

Actually all your responses are unsupportable

Why should I bother with a response to something that is as ludicrous as the OP

Thanks for proving my point...

what point was that?
funny thing about predictions, when people claim a prediction has come true, it's kinda like but not exactly as predicted...almost only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and nuclear wars..

 

[Derideo_Te]

Why am I not in the least surprised to discover that eflatliner is a Bircher? Of course it goes with the territory of being a Utopian Libertarian.

 

[daws101]

The organization identifies with Christian principles, seeks to limit governmental powers, and opposes wealth redistribution, and economic interventionism. It opposes collectivism, totalitarianism, and communism. It opposes socialism as well, which it asserts is infiltrating US governmental administration. In a 1983 edition of Crossfire, Congressman Larry McDonald (D-Georgia), then its newly appointed president, characterized the society as belonging to the Old Right rather than the New Right.[14]
The society opposed aspects of the 1960s civil rights movement and claimed the movement had communists in important positions. In the latter half of 1965, the JBS produced a flyer entitled "What's Wrong With Civil Rights?", which was used as a newspaper advertisement.[15][16] In the piece, one of the answers was: "For the civil rights movement in the United States, with all of its growing agitation and riots and bitterness, and insidious steps towards the appearance of a civil war, has not been infiltrated by the Communists, as you now frequently hear. It has been deliberately and almost wholly created by the Communists patiently building up to this present stage for more than forty years."[17] The society opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, claiming it violated the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution and overstepped individual states' rights to enact laws regarding civil rights. The society opposes "one world government", and it has an immigration reduction view on immigration reform. It opposes the United Nations, the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), the Central America Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA), the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA), and other free trade agreements. They argue the U.S. Constitution has been devalued in favor of political and economic globalization, and that this alleged trend is not accidental. It cited the existence of the former Security and Prosperity Partnership as evidence of a push towards a North American Union.[18]


fun bunch of guys!

 

[Intense]

1. Greatly expanded government spending for every conceivable means of getting rid of ever larger sums of American money as wastefully as possible.

there has been increased government spending
2. Higher and then much higher taxes.
Taxes are lower than 1958

3. An increasingly unbalanced budget despite the higher taxes.

half right, we do not have higher taxes.

4. Wild inflation of our currency.

Inflation has been mild he last ten years

5. Government controls of prices, wages and materials supposedly to combat inflation.

There is no government control of prices and wages

6. Greatly increased socialistic controls over every operation of our economy and every activity of our daily lives. This is to be accompanied naturally and automatically by a correspondently huge increase in the size of our bureaucracy and the cost and reach of our domestic government.

Not even close. We do not control the means of production. EVERY operation of our economy? Is he serious?

7. Far more centralization of power in Washington and the practical elimination of our state lines. There is a many faceted drive at work to have our state lines to mean no more within our nation as our county lines do now within the states.

our state borders are just fine thank you
8. The steady advance of federal aid to and control over our educational system leading to complete federalization of our public education.

Federal government does not control the educational system, State and local controls 90%
9. A constant hammering into the American consciousness of the horror of modern warfare. The beauties and the absolute necessities of peach, peace always on communist terms of course.

Communsm has failed. We have yet to surrender on their terms......they have adopted capitalism

10. Piece meal surrendering of the US

Never happened, we are more powerful than in 1958

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Greatly expanded government spending for every conceivable means of getting rid of ever larger sums of American money as wastefully as possible.

there has been increased government spending
2. Higher and then much higher taxes.
Taxes are lower than 1958

Including hidden Taxes and Surcharges, Fee's, Penalties, we now pay more. Where do you think subsidies come from, not those who control them, the source that bankrolls them? There is nothing you receive from Government that was not first taken from someone else. Concerning 1958, Federalism was long abandoned by then. Statist Progressivism flourished.

3. An increasingly unbalanced budget despite the higher taxes.

half right, we do not have higher taxes.

Not even worthy of comment.

4. Wild inflation of our currency.

Inflation has been mild he last ten years

By what standard? Let's ignore the debt, the bailouts, the entitlements and mandates?
Maybe then you might have something of value. Without abandoning reality, you are lost here.

5. Government controls of prices, wages and materials supposedly to combat inflation.

There is no government control of prices and wages

Really? Let's ignore minimum wage, brainwashing the masses with the concept of income inequality, price fixing without regard of what it costs to bring a product or service to market, and your talking points work well on people with a two digit IQ. Your Principles are totaly socialist/Communist, and yet, you don't even have a clue. You support throwing our National Wealth away, with literally nothing to show for it, and it makes you warm and tingly inside3, where a person of conscience would know shame. Got it. It's other peoples money, and it levels the playing field, at least in your imagination. Funny thing is that in reality, it slams shut the doors and windows. I guess if you were a paying customer on the Titanic, it really wouldn't matter whether they were open or shut, after the damage was done, huh? Point taken. Still, Aiming for icebergs is counter productive. Someone had to break it to you.

6. Greatly increased socialistic controls over every operation of our economy and every activity of our daily lives. This is to be accompanied naturally and automatically by a correspondently huge increase in the size of our bureaucracy and the cost and reach of our domestic government.

Not even close. We do not control the means of production. EVERY operation of our economy? Is he serious?

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People used to be able to make that claim about the healthcare industry too. Now look at what you gone and did. What was that bit of putting the IRS in charge of compliance, the icing on the cake, or maybe, the last nail in the coffin. Nice touch. How much production has the EPA effected? Is that not a form of control? Are you so used to being raped and exploited that you do not recognize Totalitarian threat?

7. Far more centralization of power in Washington and the practical elimination of our state lines. There is a many faceted drive at work to have our state lines to mean no more within our nation as our county lines do now within the states.

our state borders are just fine thank you

Maybe in your imagination. Tell me, how much of a Wonderland is your imagination? Can you try to explain the Federal Government position on Immigration Control, concerning States Rights? The way I see it, The Fed's don't like to see Anyone else doing what they get paid to pretend to do. It is a touchy subject, I know. We can't have the Fed's looking bad, now. So let's not embarrass them. I'll stop right there.

Just one afterthought though, who's idea was it to change the rules and laws in a way that cleans the slate, and actually makes the fake statistics look more impressive? Somebody should be in line there for the Winston Smith Journalism award.

8. The steady advance of federal aid to and control over our educational system leading to complete federalization of our public education.

Federal government does not control the educational system, State and local controls 90%

Statist Progressivism controls Education.

10. Piece meal surrendering of the US

Never happened, we are more powerful than in 1958

We??? It happened, you might just be too impotent to have noticed. Don't worry, though, each day we become more Sharia compliant.


Hey, Totalitarianism is arbitrary, right? Isn't it about who you know and are connected to, through and through. It's all relative, and when that fails, there is always privilege and exemption, right.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

1. Greatly expanded government spending for every conceivable means of getting rid of ever larger sums of American money as wastefully as possible.

Correct

2. Higher and then much higher taxes.

Only for working people, Obama's base is doing fine

3. An increasingly unbalanced budget despite the higher taxes.

Correct

4. Wild inflation of our currency.

Dollar is worth a some not insignificant fraction of what it was in 1958

5. Government controls of prices, wages and materials supposedly to combat inflation.

OMG! Dodd-Frank!

6. Greatly increased socialistic controls over every operation of our economy and every activity of our daily lives. This is to be accompanied naturally and automatically by a correspondently huge increase in the size of our bureaucracy and the cost and reach of our domestic government.

ObamaCare, NSA, IRS

7. Far more centralization of power in Washington and the practical elimination of our state lines. There is a many faceted drive at work to have our state lines to mean no more within our nation as our county lines do now within the states.


States are largely irrelevant

8. The steady advance of federal aid to and control over our educational system leading to complete federalization of our public education.

Correct

9. A constant hammering into the American consciousness of the horror of modern warfare. The beauties and the absolute necessities of peach, peace always on communist terms of course.

Communist = Progressive

10. Piece meal surrendering of the US

Viva La ReConquista!

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

It's a brilliant speech and I agree with what the John Birch Society advised starting with number one :

Restore complete independence to the USA. Get us out of the United Nations and get the United Nations out of the United States. He makes clear that this is the single most important thing to do and that is why it is on the list as number one.


Why we didn't heed his warning is hard to tell. What will happen because we didn't isn't. America is in big trouble. This video ought to be mass emailed across the nation until someone pays attention to it.

Congressman Larry McDonald ( 1st cousin to General Patton ) was the president of John Birch Society when his plane was shot down over Russian air space. He was a great threat to the communists. Congressman McDonald sounded the alarm - that communism was infitrating America via the United Nations, NGO's such as Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, CFR, he named names and made the agenda known on an interview called Crossfire. Great video, Intense! Thank you.

I am so glad you guys never get elected

Congressman Larry McDonald - president of the John Birch Society - was a registered Democrat. He wasn't a Republican. Look it up, R.W..

 

[MisterBeale]

Actually all your responses are unsupportable

Why should I bother with a response to something that is as ludicrous as the OP

Thanks for proving my point...

what point was that?
funny thing about predictions, when people claim a prediction has come true, it's kinda like but not exactly as predicted...almost only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and nuclear wars..

And you know what is really scary? Is that groups as disparate as the nation of Islam led by Louis Farrakhan, and the LaRouche movement also agree with this analysis and stand for the EXACT SAME THINGS.

What are they? Anti-globalization, pro-national sovereignty. Did you know that in the mid-nineties the LaRouche movement and the nation of Islam entered into an alliance against our common political advesary? Also, during the 2008 election, Ron Paul and Ralph Nadar were united on four key issues, along with the same people who would later compose both elements of those we would later label the Occupy movement and the Tea Party.

When both the Tea Party and the Occupy Movement have the same political foe, but the MSM doesn't even let America know who the foe is, we are in deep trouble.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J3-YoVPckk]Ron Paul And Ralph Nader Together On The Situation Room - YouTube[/ame]

Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/22/ron-paul-ralph-nader-agree-on-progressive-libertarian-alliance/

 

[daws101]

Thanks for proving my point...

what point was that?
funny thing about predictions, when people claim a prediction has come true, it's kinda like but not exactly as predicted...almost only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and nuclear wars..

And you know what is really scary? Is that groups as disparate as the nation of Islam led by Louis Farrakhan, and the LaRouche movement also agree with this analysis and stand for the EXACT SAME THINGS.

What are they? Anti-globalization, pro-national sovereignty. Did you know that in the mid-nineties the LaRouche movement and the nation of Islam entered into an alliance against our common political advesary? Also, during the 2008 election, Ron Paul and Ralph Nadar were united on four key issues, along with the same people who would later compose both elements of those we would later label the Occupy movement and the Tea Party.

When both the Tea Party and the Occupy Movement have the same political foe, but the MSM doesn't even let America know who the foe is, we are in deep trouble.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J3-YoVPckk]Ron Paul And Ralph Nader Together On The Situation Room - YouTube[/ame]

Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/22/ron-paul-ralph-nader-agree-on-progressive-libertarian-alliance/

you know what I really like about you tin foil nut sacks....you'll take any opportunity to spew your bullshit, no matter how off topic it is...
I could have said "I took a major dump last night" and your response would have been the same......

 

[rightwinger]

It's a brilliant speech and I agree with what the John Birch Society advised starting with number one :

Restore complete independence to the USA. Get us out of the United Nations and get the United Nations out of the United States. He makes clear that this is the single most important thing to do and that is why it is on the list as number one.


Why we didn't heed his warning is hard to tell. What will happen because we didn't isn't. America is in big trouble. This video ought to be mass emailed across the nation until someone pays attention to it.

Congressman Larry McDonald ( 1st cousin to General Patton ) was the president of John Birch Society when his plane was shot down over Russian air space. He was a great threat to the communists. Congressman McDonald sounded the alarm - that communism was infitrating America via the United Nations, NGO's such as Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, CFR, he named names and made the agenda known on an interview called Crossfire. Great video, Intense! Thank you.

I am so glad you guys never get elected

Congressman Larry McDonald - president of the John Birch Society - was a registered Democrat. He wasn't a Republican. Look it up, R.W..

Nutjobs are still nutjobs

Guess which side is spouting his bullshit now?
Ever heard the TP?

 

[eflatminor]

Actually all your responses are unsupportable

Why should I bother with a response to something that is as ludicrous as the OP

Thanks for proving my point...

what point was that?
funny thing about predictions, when people claim a prediction has come true, it's kinda like but not exactly as predicted...almost only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and nuclear wars..

That the points he raised were untrue, which I made abundantly clear, and further, that he would not counter my evidence with anything approaching facts, logic or reason, but simply resort to an ad hominen attack. Pretty clear if you read the thread.

 

[eflatminor]

Why am I not in the least surprised to discover that eflatliner is a Bircher? Of course it goes with the territory of being a Utopian Libertarian.

Actually, I never claimed to be such. I only responded to the falsehoods posted by RW. Now, if you care to refute those points and, you know, stick to the point of the tread, well that would be most welcome.

Or, you can stick with childish name calling, which is about what we'd expect.

Either way, good luck.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Why am I not in the least surprised to discover that eflatliner is a Bircher? Of course it goes with the territory of being a Utopian Libertarian.

Actually, I never claimed to be such. I only responded to the falsehoods posted by RW. Now, if you care to refute those points and, you know, stick to the point of the tread, well that would be most welcome.

Or, you can stick with childish name calling, which is about what we'd expect.

Either way, good luck.

Predictable whack-a-mole response!

 

[rightwinger]

Why am I not in the least surprised to discover that eflatliner is a Bircher? Of course it goes with the territory of being a Utopian Libertarian.

Actually, I never claimed to be such. I only responded to the falsehoods posted by RW. Now, if you care to refute those points and, you know, stick to the point of the tread, well that would be most welcome.

Or, you can stick with childish name calling, which is about what we'd expect.

Either way, good luck.

Yea.......you really showed me how:

We are suffering from runaway inflation
The government controls prices, wages and materials
We have socialist control over EVERYoperation of our economy and EVERY activity of our daily lives

Your predictions are so accurate....eerie almost
How did you know?

 

[eflatminor]

Why am I not in the least surprised to discover that eflatliner is a Bircher? Of course it goes with the territory of being a Utopian Libertarian.

Actually, I never claimed to be such. I only responded to the falsehoods posted by RW. Now, if you care to refute those points and, you know, stick to the point of the tread, well that would be most welcome.

Or, you can stick with childish name calling, which is about what we'd expect.

Either way, good luck.

Predictable whack-a-mole response!

Sooo...you cannot refute the points made. Got it.

 

[eflatminor]

Why am I not in the least surprised to discover that eflatliner is a Bircher? Of course it goes with the territory of being a Utopian Libertarian.

Actually, I never claimed to be such. I only responded to the falsehoods posted by RW. Now, if you care to refute those points and, you know, stick to the point of the tread, well that would be most welcome.

Or, you can stick with childish name calling, which is about what we'd expect.

Either way, good luck.

Yea.......you really showed me how:

We are suffering from runaway inflation
The government controls prices, wages and materials
We have socialist control over EVERYoperation of our economy and EVERY activity of our daily lives

Your predictions are so accurate....eerie almost
How did you know?

If you care to address the points I raised with specificity, great. Otherwise, you've suggested bullshit that I never said. I never said we're suffering from "runaway" inflation. I did point to the very high rates of inflation in energy and food prices during a recession. I showed you where government controls wages and prices...you've avoid addressing that. And I never said "every" aspect of the economy was socialist, but that we've most certainly become increasingly socialistic.

See...that's how a grown up responds with specificity. Are you capable? We'll see I guess...

 

[rightwinger]

Actually, I never claimed to be such. I only responded to the falsehoods posted by RW. Now, if you care to refute those points and, you know, stick to the point of the tread, well that would be most welcome.

Or, you can stick with childish name calling, which is about what we'd expect.

Either way, good luck.

Yea.......you really showed me how:

We are suffering from runaway inflation
The government controls prices, wages and materials
We have socialist control over EVERYoperation of our economy and EVERY activity of our daily lives

Your predictions are so accurate....eerie almost
How did you know?

If you care to address the points I raised with specificity, great. Otherwise, you've suggested bullshit that I never said. I never said we're suffering from "runaway" inflation. I did point to the very high rates of inflation in energy and food prices during a recession. I showed you where government controls wages and prices...you've avoid addressing that. And I never said "every" aspect of the economy was socialist, but that we've most certainly become increasingly socialistic.

See...that's how a grown up responds with specificity. Are you capable? We'll see I guess...

I don't give a fuck about the points you made. I am addressing the predictions in the OP

Show how they are true or STFU

 

[eflatminor]

Yea.......you really showed me how:

We are suffering from runaway inflation
The government controls prices, wages and materials
We have socialist control over EVERYoperation of our economy and EVERY activity of our daily lives

Your predictions are so accurate....eerie almost
How did you know?

If you care to address the points I raised with specificity, great. Otherwise, you've suggested bullshit that I never said. I never said we're suffering from "runaway" inflation. I did point to the very high rates of inflation in energy and food prices during a recession. I showed you where government controls wages and prices...you've avoid addressing that. And I never said "every" aspect of the economy was socialist, but that we've most certainly become increasingly socialistic.

See...that's how a grown up responds with specificity. Are you capable? We'll see I guess...

I don't give a fuck about the points you made. I am addressing the predictions in the OP

Show how they are true or STFU

Sorry, but I get you point out how your points are NOT true. Because they weren't.

So we'll go with "no", you're not capable of defending your lies. That's okay, it's your MO around here. We're used to it.

 

[rightwinger]

If you care to address the points I raised with specificity, great. Otherwise, you've suggested bullshit that I never said. I never said we're suffering from "runaway" inflation. I did point to the very high rates of inflation in energy and food prices during a recession. I showed you where government controls wages and prices...you've avoid addressing that. And I never said "every" aspect of the economy was socialist, but that we've most certainly become increasingly socialistic.

See...that's how a grown up responds with specificity. Are you capable? We'll see I guess...

I don't give a fuck about the points you made. I am addressing the predictions in the OP

Show how they are true or STFU

Sorry, but I get you point out how your points are NOT true. Because they weren't.

So we'll go with "no", you're not capable of defending your lies. That's okay, it's your MO around here. We're used to it.

Show how the predictions are true or STFU

 

[eflatminor]

I don't give a fuck about the points you made. I am addressing the predictions in the OP

Show how they are true or STFU

Sorry, but I get you point out how your points are NOT true. Because they weren't.

So we'll go with "no", you're not capable of defending your lies. That's okay, it's your MO around here. We're used to it.

Show how the predictions are true or STFU

You cannot defend you lies, we got it. Crystal clear. Exactly what we've come to expect from you.

And no, I am under no obligation to even consider the OP. I am free to respond to your lies specifically, which is exactly what I did.

Look, don't sweat it, we all know your propensity to make shit up and then refuse to defend your lies. Status quo for you.