Amazing predictions from 1958 that came true will blow your Mind

[Intense]

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Amazing predictions from 1958 that came true will blow your Mind

Too bad, huh. From bad to worse.

 

[rightwinger]

He got two out of ten correct

Amazing how close John Birch rhetoric is to today's TeaTards

 

[Intense]

He got two out of ten correct

Amazing how close John Birch rhetoric is to today's TeaTards

The one thing proven here is your ability to count to 2.

Back to finger painting Little One. Try to remember to put the paint on the paper, not your tongue.

 

[rightwinger]

1. Greatly expanded government spending for every conceivable means of getting rid of ever larger sums of American money as wastefully as possible.

there has been increased government spending
2. Higher and then much higher taxes.
Taxes are lower than 1958

3. An increasingly unbalanced budget despite the higher taxes.

half right, we do not have higher taxes.

4. Wild inflation of our currency.

Inflation has been mild he last ten years

5. Government controls of prices, wages and materials supposedly to combat inflation.

There is no government control of prices and wages

6. Greatly increased socialistic controls over every operation of our economy and every activity of our daily lives. This is to be accompanied naturally and automatically by a correspondently huge increase in the size of our bureaucracy and the cost and reach of our domestic government.

Not even close. We do not control the means of production. EVERY operation of our economy? Is he serious?

7. Far more centralization of power in Washington and the practical elimination of our state lines. There is a many faceted drive at work to have our state lines to mean no more within our nation as our county lines do now within the states.

our state borders are just fine thank you
8. The steady advance of federal aid to and control over our educational system leading to complete federalization of our public education.

Federal government does not control the educational system, State and local controls 90%
9. A constant hammering into the American consciousness of the horror of modern warfare. The beauties and the absolute necessities of peach, peace always on communist terms of course.

Communsm has failed. We have yet to surrender on their terms......they have adopted capitalism

10. Piece meal surrendering of the US

Never happened, we are more powerful than in 1958

 

[rightwinger]

Thread FAIL

 

[daws101]

He got two out of ten correct

Amazing how close John Birch rhetoric is to today's TeaTards

he'd have to do better than 50% to overcome chance..
Statistics For Dummies Cheat Sheet - For Dummies

 

[MisterBeale]

1. Greatly expanded government spending for every conceivable means of getting rid of ever larger sums of American money as wastefully as possible.

there has been increased government spending

2. Higher and then much higher taxes.
Taxes are lower than 1958
This is not necessarily so. If you are talking about just INCOME taxes, this is a very difficult thing to gauge.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324705104578151601554982808

Those 1950s gambits lowered tax liabilities but dissuaded individuals from engaging in the more beneficial activities of increasing their incomes and expanding their businesses. As a result, they were a net drag on the economy. When Ronald Reagan finally lowered rates in the 1980s, he did so in exchange for scrapping uneconomical deductions. When business owners stopped trying to figure out how to lose money, the economy boomed.

It's hard to determine how much otherwise taxable income disappeared through tax shelters in the 1950s. As a result, direct comparisons between the 1950s and now are difficult. However, it is worth noting that from 1958 to 2010, the taxes paid by the top 3% of earners, as a percentage of total personal income (which can't be reduced by shelters), increased to 3.96% from 2.72%, while the percentage paid by the bottom two-thirds of filers fell to 0.51% in 2010 from 2.7%. This starker division of relative tax burdens can be explained by the inability of upper-income groups to shelter income.

It is a testament to the shallow nature of the national economic conversation that higher tax rates can be justified by reference to a fantasy—a 91% marginal rate that hardly any top earners paid.

In reality, tax policies that diminish the incentives and capacities of innovators, business owners and investors will not spur economic improvement. Such policies will, however, satisfy the instincts of those who want to "stick it to the rich." Never mind that the rich have already been stuck fairly well.

Add to this, you are operating under a false notion that this speaker is talking exclusively about INCOME taxes only. There has been a huge proliferation of the number and kinds of taxes over time, some so hidden and insidious, that they are regressive in nature, and affect the poor and destitute as much or more than the rich. In fact, today is the worst time in history to be poor. The poor are being taxed to death because the cities, municipalities, and States are drowning in debt, and they don't want to tax incomes which will chase away business. Taxation and government are worse than ever, all because debt is worse than ever. Someone needs to pay. Unfortunately, it's not the ones who are wealthy, providing jobs, or working, because states want to keep earners and businesses. Taxation fairness goes over well, especially since the ones that are really being hit, don't understand and don't vote. (Unless they are JBS members. Well, I think LaRouche PAC members get it too, they just have a different philosophical outlook.)
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3505

The notion that “half of Americans don’t pay taxes” not only overstates the share of households that do not pay federal income taxes in a typical year. It also ignores the other taxes people pay, including federal payroll taxes and state and local taxes. Policymakers, pundits, and others sometimes overlook this point.

At a Senate Finance Committee hearing in May 2011, Senator Charles Grassley said, “According to the Joint Committee on Taxation, 49 percent of households are paying 100 percent of taxes coming in to the federal government” (meaning that the other 51 percent pay no federal tax whatsoever). At the same hearing, Cato Institute Senior Fellow Alan Reynolds asserted, “Poor people don’t pay taxes in this country.” In 2010, Fox Business host Stuart Varney said on Fox and Friends, “Yes, 47 percent of households pay not a single dime in taxes.”[13]

None of these assertions are correct. As the Tax Policy Center’s Howard Gleckman noted regarding a TPC estimate that almost half of Americans owed no federal income tax in 2009, “rarely has a bit of data been so misunderstood, or so misused.” Gleckman wrote:

Let me explain — repeat actually — what [the figure] means: About half of taxpayers paid no federal income tax last year. It does not mean they paid no tax at all. Many shelled out Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes. [….] Some paid property taxes and, it is fair to say, just about all of them paid sales taxes of one kind or another. So to say they pay no taxes is flat wrong.[14]

3. An increasingly unbalanced budget despite the higher taxes.

half right, we do not have higher taxes.

Although I believe the speaker here is worried about a loss of national sovereignty, I think this taxation issue can be applied at many levels. In fact, for those who understand the issue, we know that the global warming campaign is, in fact, just a ruse by the world's political elites to add another layer of taxation. It is really hard to gauge levels of taxation. When we go look for data, we find that, on balance, the tax receipts today, after George W. Bush tax cuts, are about the same as they were when this speech was made. Yet the overall economy was much healthier and stronger back then, and America was producing many more of the industrial products, technology products, and food products that the world was buying, so conceivably, it took far less payroll taxation, capital gains tax, tariffs, and other assorted taxation to amount to the same percentage of GDP as it did then. Can this be statistically proven? It's difficult finding the numbers, but if you're intelligent enough and you have seen the percentages of federal income to GDP, the logic and reasoning isn't hard to figure out. Remember, it isn't just about the income tax. That was instituted to pay off the interest on the debt.

4. Wild inflation of our currency.

Inflation has been mild he last ten years

I will concede that point. However, anyone who paid attention to the nature of national debts, and their link to inflation pre-Reagan administration has to scratch their head in puzzlement over how we can manage to keep inflation under control. It's like magic. It used to be axiomatic, the more debt a government had, the more inflation their national currency would experience. This is why this thread is in the, "conspiracy zone." Because to understand it, you have to go places where the MSM fears to tread. You have to READ, and understand what is really going on. Yes, we have had inflation, but it has been exported. How do you export inflation? You create exotic financial instruments, call them derivative, sell them off, and turn a tidy profit. You print a bunch of money, sell the bond, and have the central bank buy it at interest. All sorts of ways.

We had a president once call it, fuzzy math. It's amazing what clandestine agencies, and a little corruption can do.
Why deficits stopped mattering : Magic or Conspiracy ?
http://www.24hgold.com/english/contributor.aspx?article=3180997226G10020&contributor=Eric+de+Carbonnel

The next graph shows the link between government deficits and inflation pre1980. Notice the surges in inflation (yellow line) after each major deficit (blue line).

Deficits = INFLATION

Lastly, the graph below shows how inflation and interest rates move together.

INFLATION = HIGHER INTEREST RATES

So what happened? You ALL must read this article as see the links, they are incredible.

With the threat of inflation declared dead, the US proceeded to run massive budget deficits…

Amazing isn't it? After 1980, no more painful budget decision making: the US could now print all the money it wanted without any inflationary consequences! Deficits stopped mattering.

5. Government controls of prices, wages and materials supposedly to combat inflation.

There is no government control of prices and wages

Let's have you respond to your own refutation, shall we?

Minorities and the poor are hit hardest by the minimum wage

They also benefit the most from a minimum wage hike

And I suppose you will now tell us that HUD doesn't exist, that more and subsidized housing doesn't exist, food stamps don't affect market prices, farm subsidies and energy subsidies have no affect on the market, etc. etc. etc.

Have you ever taken a basic economic class or picked up a book on economics? You are your own worst enemy. The federal, state and city governments get more entangled in the economy with each passing year. Can you say. . . *cough* health care, *cough.*

6. Greatly increased socialistic controls over every operation of our economy and every activity of our daily lives. This is to be accompanied naturally and automatically by a correspondingly huge increase in the size of our bureaucracy and the cost and reach of our domestic government.

Not even close. We do not control the means of production. EVERY operation of our economy? Is he serious?

He is a bit alarmist, isn't he. But you can understand why, look what he saw coming. None the less, this does seem to be a reiteration of point five.

7. Far more centralization of power in Washington and the practical elimination of our state lines. There is a many faceted drive at work to have our state lines to mean no more within our nation as our county lines do now within the states.

our state borders are just fine thank you

On the one hand, you are right, on the other hand, neither you nor he would've had any idea how dire the situation could become. Currently the central government still has to incentivize most programs it wants to get the states to cooperate with. That being said, it wants the state to cooperate with an internationalist agenda. I don't believe you know anything about Agenda 21, it's worse than anything this speaker could have foreseen. In nearly ever county in every state, it's insideous tenticles have started to subvert what ever the will of the people may be, in a most undemocratic fasion.

Are you even aware of Executive Order 13575, it's unconstitutional nature or how it will affect roughly 16% of property owners? Most likely you are not. You post out of ignorance and cognitive bias mostly.


8. The steady advance of federal aid to and control over our educational system leading to complete federalization of our public education.

Federal government does not control the educational system, State and local controls 90%

It may not control it by mandate, but it controls it by default. You are aware, there is this thing called, "The Department of Education?" If states want to receive education dollars, they do what they are told. Haven't you heard of No Child Left Behind? How about HeadStart?

And now, for the most insidious, Common Core. A private company, run out of India, to standardize the WORLD's education. Where did you pull that "90%" statistic out of, your butt? 45 out of 50 states will be common core compliant by the end of 2016. What does that mean? It means that any student graduating from any High School from a common core school will have essentially the same stupidity as any other. This works well for the elites, they know a dumb voter is an easily controlled voter.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NcuhEcrM4w]Dumbed Down and the Illusion of Political Choice - YouTube[/ame]
9. A constant hammering into the American consciousness of the horror of modern warfare. The beauties and the absolute necessities of peach, peace always on communist terms of course.

Communsm has failed. We have yet to surrender on their terms......they have adopted capitalism

State planing failed, which it was doomed to. Micro managing masses can never out preform price signals of the market.

They never adopted "capitalism." They adopted the same corporatism, a form of fascist/socialism that the US and China both use. This enables the elites in the central government to work hand in glove with the economic elites on the world stage. It isn't a true Communism, it is a state, or elite's directed socialism.

None the less, it emphasizes the role of society and neglects the talent of the individual. Unless of course you are an elite, then you hold an entitled or privileged role in society. For more on that, read Plato's dialogs.

The funny thing about this prediction is, that they use the horrors of war to get the US to intervene to set-up globalism. Like it's our duty to make sure Weapons of Mass destruction are never used anywhere on the planet. And if they are used, well, it's worth starting WWIII to see they are never used again? What the hell kind of logic is that?

10. Piece meal surrendering of the US

Never happened, we are more powerful than in 1958

We're a paper tiger, nothing more. A construct of the international banking elites. How long do you think it can last?

Our power and prosperity rely on the good faith and credit of those who we push around and manipulate. Mostly, because their future economic security depends on how well we do. It's all smoke and mirrors though. Once they become aware that alternatives are available, or at the very least, their investments are no longer safe, there will be a rush to the exits.

Further more, can you really call this nation the "United States," anymore, if it doesn't even hold a claim to the characteristics that define what made it the United States? Perhaps it would be better to call them the United Democratic Republics of America?

I remember when I was at University, my best friend, a devout Catholic, would use birth control, told me he was pro-choice, had sex before marriage. . . etc. You get the idea. Well then, what defines what a Catholic is then? He would still insist he is a Catholic though. Frankly, I thought he should find a different church.

My point is here, you insist that the United States is still, "more powerful than in 1958." I maintain that we are no longer the United States. In the United States I knew, all of the executive orders that have been passed since 1958 would not have been accepted or tolerated. If congress hadn't been bought and sold, the would have dragged the executive before them and asked, "What is this shit?!?"

In the United States that I know, when the Warren Commission and the Congressional Hearings came to different conclusions, it would have been obvious that dirty deeds were afoot, the Vice President would have been routed from the office, and all of the spooks in the NSA, CIA, and FBI would have been turned out.

In the United States that we should have known, when a president broke the law, he would have been impeached, and then sent to jail. This means every president since Kennedy, except maybe Carter would have been behind bars. And I am sure if I dug, Carter was probably involved in some nastiness too. One does not mess are with the Trilateral Commission and Zbigniew Brzezinski and keep themselves smelling like a rose.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
Though, to be fair, his moral compass pointed north more often than not. That's probably why they didn't put him in for another term.

No, the problem with your statement is two fold. First, we have the illusion of power. It is based on the fact that we own the world's reserve currency, and if at any time the world cartel of financial elites decides to implode the dollar, there goes that supposed power you are talking about. Do we still have manufacturing? Do we still have mining? How about drilling and refining, or timber production? How many ships and planes do we make a year? How much clothes do we produce? If California or the plains dry up, or we run out of oil, what does our food production look like? I think if you looked into these questions, you would find we have very little real power left.

And Second, to be called the United States, both the people and the Government have to follow the praecipes and culture laid down by the constitution. We continually let unconstitutional and non-constitutional practices continue. We are not a constitutional Republic, but a Corporate Mob Rule. We are a mere zombie nation of what we once were.

 

[daws101]

1. Greatly expanded government spending for every conceivable means of getting rid of ever larger sums of American money as wastefully as possible.

there has been increased government spending

2. Higher and then much higher taxes.
Taxes are lower than 1958

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[Delta4Embassy]

You realize this is a discussion board and not a video upload site? Or was I the only one expecting to see something written about the thread title?

 

[rightwinger]

Which of the predictions qualify as amazing?

They seem amazingly wrong

 

[eagle1462010]

I loved the video and ignore the Liberal response to it.

We have gone in the wrong direction for far too long, and the Gov't has gotten too large...........

To the detriment of our country and it's future............

Great Video and thread Intense.

 

[MisterBeale]

I loved the video and ignore the Liberal response to it.

We have gone in the wrong direction for far too long, and the Gov't has gotten too large...........

To the detriment of our country and it's future............

Great Video and thread Intense.

Agreed. This video was produced by the same folks. Excellent info. I learned some interesting stuff about what was really going on behind the scenes with that whole Clinton impeachment.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcA76lcXtwU&list=PL9rexqAkjO4FQsLargT14gf0-K6C04jiH]Council on Foreign Relations - The Power Behind Big News - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

It's a brilliant speech and I agree with what the John Birch Society advised starting with number one :

Restore complete independence to the USA. Get us out of the United Nations and get the United Nations out of the United States. He makes clear that this is the single most important thing to do and that is why it is on the list as number one.


Why we didn't heed his warning is hard to tell. What will happen because we didn't isn't. America is in big trouble. This video ought to be mass emailed across the nation until someone pays attention to it.

Congressman Larry McDonald ( 1st cousin to General Patton ) was the president of John Birch Society when his plane was shot down over Russian air space. He was a great threat to the communists. Congressman McDonald sounded the alarm - that communism was infitrating America via the United Nations, NGO's such as Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, CFR, he named names and made the agenda known on an interview called Crossfire. Great video, Intense! Thank you.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Congressman Larry McDonald - president of John Birch Society - explains what is going on:

[ame=http://youtu.be/_BPhYEFGaGM]Larry McDonald on the New World Order - YouTube[/ame]

 

[rightwinger]

It's a brilliant speech and I agree with what the John Birch Society advised starting with number one :

Restore complete independence to the USA. Get us out of the United Nations and get the United Nations out of the United States. He makes clear that this is the single most important thing to do and that is why it is on the list as number one.


Why we didn't heed his warning is hard to tell. What will happen because we didn't isn't. America is in big trouble. This video ought to be mass emailed across the nation until someone pays attention to it.

Congressman Larry McDonald ( 1st cousin to General Patton ) was the president of John Birch Society when his plane was shot down over Russian air space. He was a great threat to the communists. Congressman McDonald sounded the alarm - that communism was infitrating America via the United Nations, NGO's such as Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, CFR, he named names and made the agenda known on an interview called Crossfire. Great video, Intense! Thank you.

I am so glad you guys never get elected

 

[eflatminor]

1. Greatly expanded government spending for every conceivable means of getting rid of ever larger sums of American money as wastefully as possible.

there has been increased government spending
Ya think?!

2. Higher and then much higher taxes.
Taxes are lower than 1958
Bullshit. There were higher marginal brackets for federal income taxes in 1958, but when you consider total tax burden (federal, state and local), Americans are paying more, or at least as much as they did in 1958.

3. An increasingly unbalanced budget despite the higher taxes.

half right, we do not have higher taxes.
Repeating your false statement will not make it so.

4. Wild inflation of our currency.

Inflation has been mild he last ten years
Bullshit again. No one cares about official government stats for inflation, which conveniently omit energy and food prices. When you actually look at what people buy, what it takes for people to survive, prices have risen dramatically...and this during a terrible recession! Demand is down, prices should be DOWN!

5. Government controls of prices, wages and materials supposedly to combat inflation.

There is no government control of prices and wages
And yet ANOTHER lie. What in the fuck do you think the Federal Reserve does? It is a central control over the price of money, the interest rate. And no control of wages? Really? What do you call the various minimum wages imposed by governments, state and federal? Good God man, you're not even close.

6. Greatly increased socialistic controls over every operation of our economy and every activity of our daily lives. This is to be accompanied naturally and automatically by a correspondently huge increase in the size of our bureaucracy and the cost and reach of our domestic government.

Not even close. We do not control the means of production. EVERY operation of our economy? Is he serious?
Are you really going to argue that since 1958 we haven't seen increased socialistic controls? He did not say government would control the means of production, but that it would increase control, which it sure as hell has. No one could possibly deny that.

7. Far more centralization of power in Washington and the practical elimination of our state lines. There is a many faceted drive at work to have our state lines to mean no more within our nation as our county lines do now within the states.

our state borders are just fine thank you
When it comes to issues like interstate commerce, the fuck they are. There is no denying the Feds have weakened states rights. You just couldn't be this delusional.

8. The steady advance of federal aid to and control over our educational system leading to complete federalization of our public education.

Federal government does not control the educational system, State and local controls 90%
And yet, he was correct. The Feds have steadily advanced control over public education and there is every indication they plan on increasing that central planning. Common core anyone?

9. A constant hammering into the American consciousness of the horror of modern warfare. The beauties and the absolute necessities of peach, peace always on communist terms of course.

Communsm has failed. We have yet to surrender on their terms......they have adopted capitalism
While we have moved ever more towards central planning. One would think we'd learn from their failed experiments. Guess not.

10. Piece meal surrendering of the US

Never happened, we are more powerful than in 1958
Once again, bullshit. We are nowhere near the dominate power we were then. We are nowhere near as free. The Progressives, as always, have made the problems they sought to fix worse than ever.

You were saying something about FAIL???

 

[rightwinger]

1. Greatly expanded government spending for every conceivable means of getting rid of ever larger sums of American money as wastefully as possible.

there has been increased government spending
Ya think?!

2. Higher and then much higher taxes.
Taxes are lower than 1958
Bullshit. There were higher marginal brackets for federal income taxes in 1958, but when you consider total tax burden (federal, state and local), Americans are paying more, or at least as much as they did in 1958.

3. An increasingly unbalanced budget despite the higher taxes.

half right, we do not have higher taxes.
Repeating your false statement will not make it so.

4. Wild inflation of our currency.

Inflation has been mild he last ten years
Bullshit again. No one cares about official government stats for inflation, which conveniently omit energy and food prices. When you actually look at what people buy, what it takes for people to survive, prices have risen dramatically...and this during a terrible recession! Demand is down, prices should be DOWN!

5. Government controls of prices, wages and materials supposedly to combat inflation.

There is no government control of prices and wages
And yet ANOTHER lie. What in the fuck do you think the Federal Reserve does? It is a central control over the price of money, the interest rate. And no control of wages? Really? What do you call the various minimum wages imposed by governments, state and federal? Good God man, you're not even close.

6. Greatly increased socialistic controls over every operation of our economy and every activity of our daily lives. This is to be accompanied naturally and automatically by a correspondently huge increase in the size of our bureaucracy and the cost and reach of our domestic government.

Not even close. We do not control the means of production. EVERY operation of our economy? Is he serious?
Are you really going to argue that since 1958 we haven't seen increased socialistic controls? He did not say government would control the means of production, but that it would increase control, which it sure as hell has. No one could possibly deny that.

7. Far more centralization of power in Washington and the practical elimination of our state lines. There is a many faceted drive at work to have our state lines to mean no more within our nation as our county lines do now within the states.

our state borders are just fine thank you
When it comes to issues like interstate commerce, the fuck they are. There is no denying the Feds have weakened states rights. You just couldn't be this delusional.

8. The steady advance of federal aid to and control over our educational system leading to complete federalization of our public education.

Federal government does not control the educational system, State and local controls 90%
And yet, he was correct. The Feds have steadily advanced control over public education and there is every indication they plan on increasing that central planning. Common core anyone?

9. A constant hammering into the American consciousness of the horror of modern warfare. The beauties and the absolute necessities of peach, peace always on communist terms of course.

Communsm has failed. We have yet to surrender on their terms......they have adopted capitalism
While we have moved ever more towards central planning. One would think we'd learn from their failed experiments. Guess not.

10. Piece meal surrendering of the US

Never happened, we are more powerful than in 1958
Once again, bullshit. We are nowhere near the dominate power we were then. We are nowhere near as free. The Progressives, as always, have made the problems they sought to fix worse than ever.

You were saying something about FAIL???

I agree

Those predictions could not be further from the truth. But we are talking about John Birchers here. When have they ever been right about anything?

 

[Wry Catcher]

I'm very much surprised there is no mention in the video to remove the fluoride from water - that too was a communist conspiracy in the folklore of the John Birch Society (JBS); later to morph into the Neo conservative movement. Former Birchers were responsible for the Great Fiasco, our invasion and occupation of Iraq which ignored the long held isolationist desire of conservatives to avoid being the policemen of the world.

* We must pay as we go. That means we must raise taxes when necessary and use the revenue smartly - not on wars of choice or weapons mostly funded to keep jobs in the several states.

* We must kick religion out of the public arena; religion is a personal matter and sectarianism divides rather than unites us as one nation. Strike god from our Pledge of Allegiance.

* We must protect our air, water and soil. Doing so does not necessarily cost us jobs.

* We must put urban myths aside, respect science and seek pragmatic win-win solutions - domestically and internationally.

* We must rethink education in America.

* We must get money out of the political process.

* We must end failed policies (i.e. the war on drugs).

* We must end ideological battles.

* Most importantly we must be pragmatic.

 

[eflatminor]

1. Greatly expanded government spending for every conceivable means of getting rid of ever larger sums of American money as wastefully as possible.

there has been increased government spending
Ya think?!

2. Higher and then much higher taxes.
Taxes are lower than 1958
Bullshit. There were higher marginal brackets for federal income taxes in 1958, but when you consider total tax burden (federal, state and local), Americans are paying more, or at least as much as they did in 1958.

3. An increasingly unbalanced budget despite the higher taxes.

half right, we do not have higher taxes.
Repeating your false statement will not make it so.

4. Wild inflation of our currency.

Inflation has been mild he last ten years
Bullshit again. No one cares about official government stats for inflation, which conveniently omit energy and food prices. When you actually look at what people buy, what it takes for people to survive, prices have risen dramatically...and this during a terrible recession! Demand is down, prices should be DOWN!

5. Government controls of prices, wages and materials supposedly to combat inflation.

There is no government control of prices and wages
And yet ANOTHER lie. What in the fuck do you think the Federal Reserve does? It is a central control over the price of money, the interest rate. And no control of wages? Really? What do you call the various minimum wages imposed by governments, state and federal? Good God man, you're not even close.

6. Greatly increased socialistic controls over every operation of our economy and every activity of our daily lives. This is to be accompanied naturally and automatically by a correspondently huge increase in the size of our bureaucracy and the cost and reach of our domestic government.

Not even close. We do not control the means of production. EVERY operation of our economy? Is he serious?
Are you really going to argue that since 1958 we haven't seen increased socialistic controls? He did not say government would control the means of production, but that it would increase control, which it sure as hell has. No one could possibly deny that.

7. Far more centralization of power in Washington and the practical elimination of our state lines. There is a many faceted drive at work to have our state lines to mean no more within our nation as our county lines do now within the states.

our state borders are just fine thank you
When it comes to issues like interstate commerce, the fuck they are. There is no denying the Feds have weakened states rights. You just couldn't be this delusional.

8. The steady advance of federal aid to and control over our educational system leading to complete federalization of our public education.

Federal government does not control the educational system, State and local controls 90%
And yet, he was correct. The Feds have steadily advanced control over public education and there is every indication they plan on increasing that central planning. Common core anyone?

9. A constant hammering into the American consciousness of the horror of modern warfare. The beauties and the absolute necessities of peach, peace always on communist terms of course.

Communsm has failed. We have yet to surrender on their terms......they have adopted capitalism
While we have moved ever more towards central planning. One would think we'd learn from their failed experiments. Guess not.

10. Piece meal surrendering of the US

Never happened, we are more powerful than in 1958
Once again, bullshit. We are nowhere near the dominate power we were then. We are nowhere near as free. The Progressives, as always, have made the problems they sought to fix worse than ever.

You were saying something about FAIL???

I agree

Those predictions could not be further from the truth.

So typical. I called you out on every bullshit claim you made, so you double down on the lies. Yep, that's about what we've come to expect...

But we are talking about John Birchers here. When have they ever been right about anything?

Got it. When you have nothing to back up your claims, launch an ad hominem attack. Works every time...

 

[rightwinger]

You were saying something about FAIL???

I agree

Those predictions could not be further from the truth.

So typical. I called you out on every bullshit claim you made, so you double down on the lies. Yep, that's about what we've come to expect...

But we are talking about John Birchers here. When have they ever been right about anything?

Got it. When you have nothing to back up your claims, launch an ad hominem attack. Works every time...

Actually all your responses are unsupportable

Why should I bother with a response to something that is as ludicrous as the OP