Allowable guns in the US

[JoeB131]

Dumb ass, the WINDOW Lanza allegedly shot out was still intact in that pic of Wayne Carver....just another fuck up that was caught.

Really? Looks like a hole to me.

Where is the footage of a chaotic evacuation scene of 450 other alleged students? Where are the buses?

Why would there be footage? If they are like most schools, the buses probably went back to a depot until they were needed.

Most school districts don't even own their own buses, they outsource the work out to private contractors. You'd know this if you weren't a Russian Troll.

Moving on.

Joe Blowhard, the bloated commie (that sided with the Chi-coms during the Tienanmen Square massacre of 1989) is an unapologetic hater of the 2nd amendment.

I don't take sides in the internal affairs of other countries, it just wasn't any of our business. If you were a dumbass trying to face down a tank, that's natural selection. As for the Second Amendment, I'm all for Well-regulated Militias. I was a member of one for years (The Illinois National Guard). The crazy interpretation of the Militia Amendment that Adam Lanza is entitled to an AR-15 is just nuts.

Joe Blowhard believes that my mom should have never been able to defend herself with a weapon.

Guy, DGU's are a myth.. they don't happen. Do you know how we know they don't happen? Because only 200 gun homicides a year are ruled "Justifiable", and most of those are domestic violence situations.

You'd have to believe that there are millions of times a gun whackadoodle has a criminal in their sights and they DON'T shoot? Like 99.9% of the time? It's just not credible.

 

[Dale Smith]

Dumb ass, the WINDOW Lanza allegedly shot out was still intact in that pic of Wayne Carver....just another fuck up that was caught.

Really? Looks like a hole to me.

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Where is the footage of a chaotic evacuation scene of 450 other alleged students? Where are the buses?

Why would there be footage? If they are like most schools, the buses probably went back to a depot until they were needed.

Most school districts don't even own their own buses, they outsource the work out to private contractors. You'd know this if you weren't a Russian Troll.

Moving on.

Joe Blowhard, the bloated commie (that sided with the Chi-coms during the Tienanmen Square massacre of 1989) is an unapologetic hater of the 2nd amendment.

I don't take sides in the internal affairs of other countries, it just wasn't any of our business. If you were a dumbass trying to face down a tank, that's natural selection. As for the Second Amendment, I'm all for Well-regulated Militias. I was a member of one for years (The Illinois National Guard). The crazy interpretation of the Militia Amendment that Adam Lanza is entitled to an AR-15 is just nuts.

Joe Blowhard believes that my mom should have never been able to defend herself with a weapon.

Guy, DGU's are a myth.. they don't happen. Do you know how we know they don't happen? Because only 200 gun homicides a year are ruled "Justifiable", and most of those are domestic violence situations.

You'd have to believe that there are millions of times a gun whackadoodle has a criminal in their sights and they DON'T shoot? Like 99.9% of the time? It's just not credible.

Joe Blowhard, the bloated, card carrying commie, I am not talking about the the front entrance of Sandy Hoax school, moron.....I am talking about the window of the classroom that was allegedly shot out by the alleged Adam Lanza that stopped his shooting of the "little childrens" and randomly shot at a car that had pulled up in the middle of this "mass casualty event". The pic of Wayne Carver leaning against a pillar with police tape surrounding the area plainly shows that said window was yet to be busted.......you really are fucking stupid.

"Why would there be footage? If they are like most schools, the buses probably went back to a depot until they were needed"

Well, they were allegedly "needed" again due to this alleged mass shooting, dumb ass, if we are to believe this load of bullshit....if not, where is the footage of the 450 plus students being evacuated in such great haste instead of the focus being placed on twelve students that were photographed while at some point in time were made to change places in line?

"I don't take sides in the internal affairs of other countries, it just wasn't any of our business. If you were a dumbass trying to face down a tank, that's natural selection"

But it is the business of USA.INC to intercede in countries like Libya where the Barrypuppet and Hildebeast forced regime change and stole 300 plus tons of gold? Same style of regime change as in the Ukraine and what they attempted to do in Syria before Putin bitchslapped Barrypuppet on the world stage? You have no problem with the Chi-coms crushing resistance because you are "on board" with their style of totalitarianism because you believe in it and yearn for it here, commie Joe Blowhard.....


"Guy, DGU's are a myth.. they don't happen. Do you know how we know they don't happen? Because only 200 gun homicides a year are ruled "Justifiable", and most of those are domestic violence situations."

Guns used as a deterrent to ward off rapists or home invasions don't always result in death. Those that wish to commit a crime and find that they are confronted with a gun simply flee the scene. Kind of like the rapist that was convinced that my mom knew how to use that snub-nosed revolver. I could see his silhouette in the hall way. My mom was telling me and my little brother to stay put even though our first instinct was to go to her. Imagine being in her position.....a rapist has entered our home and is approaching, she is telling him that she has a gun and having two children between her bedroom and our room. You believe that she shouldn't have had the means to protect herself. You are slime, Joe Blowhard......you are one disgusting sack of shit.

So you go right ahead and proclaim that only "da gubermint" should have guns.....knock yourself out on that one. I will, however, support the 2nd amendment not only for self defense but to be used when a "gubermint" becomes tyrannical and thus necessary to fight against it by any means. Do you get the message that I am conveying to you, Joe Blowhard, the bloated commie asswipe?

 

[JoeB131]

Joe Blowhard, the bloated, card carrying commie, I am not talking about the the front entrance of Sandy Hoax school, moron.....I am talking about the window of the classroom that was allegedly shot out by the alleged Adam Lanza that stopped his shooting of the "little childrens" and randomly shot at a car that had pulled up in the middle of this "mass casualty event". The pic of Wayne Carver leaning against a pillar with police tape surrounding the area plainly shows that said window was yet to be busted.......you really are fucking stupid.

How do you know that was the window he shot out of? This is the problem, guy, you didn't work the crime scene. You just got pictures from other nuts who didn't work the crime scene and repeat what they said.

But it is the business of USA.INC to intercede in countries like Libya where the Barrypuppet and Hildebeast forced regime change and stole 300 plus tons of gold?

I thought intervening in Libya was a bad idea. Even though Khadafy was a bastard who murdered Americans, (I'm sure you think they were all crisis actors, too!) it wasn't our place to get involved in that civil war. I was also against Clinton's intervention in Kosovo on the same principle. The stuff about stolen gold, that's just more weird conspiracy crap from the nutters.

You have no problem with the Chi-coms crushing resistance because you are "on board" with their style of totalitarianism because you believe in it and yearn for it here, commie Joe Blowhard.....

I have no problem because those kids were stupid and went about it the wrong way. Like I said, NATURAL SELECTION. But then again, I have an understanding of Chinese history and why China acts like it does much of the time.

Guns used as a deterrent to ward off rapists or home invasions don't always result in death. Those that wish to commit a crime and find that they are confronted with a gun simply flee the scene.

Again, it's a matter of probabilities. We know exactly how many people are killed in self-defense with guns- about 200. What we don't know is how many people are merely threatened with guns, because you have estimates as low as 45,000 and as high as 5 million. That's a pretty wide variance that makes you wonder if it happens at all.

But fine. Let's take the lowest number. That would mean that out of 45,000 times some gun nut got all scared by a scary negro (because it's always more about race than real threat) only 200 times did they actually shoot.

That would mean that 99.6% of the time, a gun nut had a bad guy in his sights and didn't shoot.

Is this credible to you, given how much the gun nuts wank off at the thought of being George Zimmerman?

Of course it isn't.

 

[Dale Smith]

Joe Blowhard, the bloated, card carrying commie, I am not talking about the the front entrance of Sandy Hoax school, moron.....I am talking about the window of the classroom that was allegedly shot out by the alleged Adam Lanza that stopped his shooting of the "little childrens" and randomly shot at a car that had pulled up in the middle of this "mass casualty event". The pic of Wayne Carver leaning against a pillar with police tape surrounding the area plainly shows that said window was yet to be busted.......you really are fucking stupid.

How do you know that was the window he shot out of? This is the problem, guy, you didn't work the crime scene. You just got pictures from other nuts who didn't work the crime scene and repeat what they said.

But it is the business of USA.INC to intercede in countries like Libya where the Barrypuppet and Hildebeast forced regime change and stole 300 plus tons of gold?

I thought intervening in Libya was a bad idea. Even though Khadafy was a bastard who murdered Americans, (I'm sure you think they were all crisis actors, too!) it wasn't our place to get involved in that civil war. I was also against Clinton's intervention in Kosovo on the same principle. The stuff about stolen gold, that's just more weird conspiracy crap from the nutters.

You have no problem with the Chi-coms crushing resistance because you are "on board" with their style of totalitarianism because you believe in it and yearn for it here, commie Joe Blowhard.....

I have no problem because those kids were stupid and went about it the wrong way. Like I said, NATURAL SELECTION. But then again, I have an understanding of Chinese history and why China acts like it does much of the time.

Guns used as a deterrent to ward off rapists or home invasions don't always result in death. Those that wish to commit a crime and find that they are confronted with a gun simply flee the scene.

Again, it's a matter of probabilities. We know exactly how many people are killed in self-defense with guns- about 200. What we don't know is how many people are merely threatened with guns, because you have estimates as low as 45,000 and as high as 5 million. That's a pretty wide variance that makes you wonder if it happens at all.

But fine. Let's take the lowest number. That would mean that out of 45,000 times some gun nut got all scared by a scary negro (because it's always more about race than real threat) only 200 times did they actually shoot.

That would mean that 99.6% of the time, a gun nut had a bad guy in his sights and didn't shoot.

Is this credible to you, given how much the gun nuts wank off at the thought of being George Zimmerman?

Of course it isn't.

"How do you know that was the window he shot out of? This is the problem, guy, you didn't work the crime scene. You just got pictures from other nuts who didn't work the crime scene and repeat what they said"

HOLY SHIT! You just keep exposing your ignorance about Sandy Hoax if you don't know about the shot out window of the room where the alleged "massacre" occurred. According to the police reports at least three bullet holes were found in the cars in the parking lot allegedly fired through the class room window that most of the alleged killings took place but yet that same window is intact with a picture of Wayne Carver (now deceased) leisurely leaning against a pillar in front of the school while directly to the left of the school. That same window is later shown to be shattered by alleged gunfire from the mysterious Adam Lanza AFTER the pic of Wayne Carver...how in the fuck can you POSSIBLY explain that?????

As far as your contention that an armed citizen defended themselves because they had the means to do so doesn't justify their right to own a firearm only shows your pathetic arrogance that lives that WERE spared do not justify the right one has to own a firearm. Who the fuck made you the judge and jury? Fortunately, you will never be in a place of power that can make that determination, Joe Blowhard, the bloated card carrying commie.

 

[WinterBorn]

Dumb ass, the WINDOW Lanza allegedly shot out was still intact in that pic of Wayne Carver....just another fuck up that was caught.

Really? Looks like a hole to me.

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Where is the footage of a chaotic evacuation scene of 450 other alleged students? Where are the buses?

Why would there be footage? If they are like most schools, the buses probably went back to a depot until they were needed.

Most school districts don't even own their own buses, they outsource the work out to private contractors. You'd know this if you weren't a Russian Troll.

Moving on.

Joe Blowhard, the bloated commie (that sided with the Chi-coms during the Tienanmen Square massacre of 1989) is an unapologetic hater of the 2nd amendment.

I don't take sides in the internal affairs of other countries, it just wasn't any of our business. If you were a dumbass trying to face down a tank, that's natural selection. As for the Second Amendment, I'm all for Well-regulated Militias. I was a member of one for years (The Illinois National Guard). The crazy interpretation of the Militia Amendment that Adam Lanza is entitled to an AR-15 is just nuts.

Joe Blowhard believes that my mom should have never been able to defend herself with a weapon.

Guy, DGU's are a myth.. they don't happen. Do you know how we know they don't happen? Because only 200 gun homicides a year are ruled "Justifiable", and most of those are domestic violence situations.

You'd have to believe that there are millions of times a gun whackadoodle has a criminal in their sights and they DON'T shoot? Like 99.9% of the time? It's just not credible.

The ONLY way your claims have any validity is if, in every single case of a defensive gun use, the criminal is killed. Every single one.

You quote the CDC is some of your claims, but you dismiss their acceptance that DGUs happen hundreds of thousands of times a year. Funny how they are credible in one case and "whackadoodle" in another. That takes a special kind of back flips in logic.

 

[JoeB131]

HOLY SHIT! You just keep exposing your ignorance about Sandy Hoax if you don't know about the shot out window of the room where the alleged "massacre" occurred. According to the police reports at least three bullet holes were found in the cars in the parking lot allegedly fired through

That wasn't the point, How do you know it was THAT window? Schools usually have lots of windows..

That same window is later shown to be shattered by alleged gunfire from the mysterious Adam Lanza AFTER the pic of Wayne Carver...how in the fuck can you POSSIBLY explain that?????

How do you know it's the same window? The thing about classrooms is they tend to be kind of uniform. I actually spent a few minutes trying to google whatever nonsense you are babbling about here, and it just ain't coming up.

As far as your contention that an armed citizen defended themselves because they had the means to do so doesn't justify their right to own a firearm only shows your pathetic arrogance that lives that WERE spared do not justify the right one has to own a firearm. Who the fuck made you the judge and jury? Fortunately, you will never be in a place of power that can make that determination, Joe Blowhard, the bloated card carrying

No, buddy, the fact that we have 33,000 gun deaths and 70,000 gun injuries is why I don't think we should have firearms, or at the very least, we should scrutinize who gets them.

We are all kind of sick of living with your fetish.

 

[JoeB131]

The ONLY way your claims have any validity is if, in every single case of a defensive gun use, the criminal is killed. Every single one.

Yeah, pretty much.

You quote the CDC is some of your claims, but you dismiss their acceptance that DGUs happen hundreds of thousands of times a year. Funny how they are credible in one case and "whackadoodle" in another. That takes a special kind of back flips in logic.

Actually, I question all claims of DGU's, from the low ones (CDC, NCVS) to the high ones (any asshole taking a check from the Gun Industry.

You would simply have to believe that all these gun nuts, who spend all day wanking off to the thought of shooting him a darkie like Zimmerman did, would restrain from shooting 99.6% to 99.9999% of the time. It's just not credible.

More to the point, you'd have to believe that 99.6% or whatever people who are desperate enough to risk jail and arrest would be intimidated easily by the sight of some nerd carrying a gun. You know, instead of busting out laughing.

 

[hadit]

I don't need "da gubermint" to grant me their blessing on what I may or may not have in order to defend my home and country. Commie fucks like candyporn would love to have a totally disarmed public because marxists like her fear an armed populace. They stand in the way of their hopes of a commie utopia.

Comrade Dmitri Smirnov trying to convince us he's an American... too funny. Come on, we know Putin doesn't let you have guns, Comrade.

When did you suddenly care about "your country"? I thought you didn't participate in the system and you think it's all a conspiracy by the Jesuits/Bilderbergers

Anyway, out here in the REAL WORLD of America, most of us are sick and tired of the gun fetishists and how we all have to shape our lives around them.

Well, they're not going away, and if you won't go away, there's little you can legally do to prevent them from protecting what's theirs.

 

[hadit]

What is the most deadliest gun can you own in the US? Can you own a M134 Minigun to protect your property?

The deadliest gun? The one in the hands of a skilled shooter. The one you practice with the most.

I have several guns. None are particularly deadly unless I hit my target.

There are more hoops to jump thru to own a fully automatic weapon like an M134 Minigun. But as long as it was manufactured before 1986, you can jump thru the hoops and own it.

I've never understood the desire to own a full auto firearm. I've fired a few. And while it is fun, it has limited use as a defensive firearm.

if they are so useless then why does the military depend on them so much???

It's called suppressive fire. Automatic fire is not designed to ensure a kill, but rather to force a massed opposition to take cover and disrupt their movements. It's not what most homeowners would need or desire, unless there was a mob headed their way. Hmmm, come to think of it, the news lately has shown just that....

 

[hadit]

The ONLY way your claims have any validity is if, in every single case of a defensive gun use, the criminal is killed. Every single one.

Yeah, pretty much.

You quote the CDC is some of your claims, but you dismiss their acceptance that DGUs happen hundreds of thousands of times a year. Funny how they are credible in one case and "whackadoodle" in another. That takes a special kind of back flips in logic.

Actually, I question all claims of DGU's, from the low ones (CDC, NCVS) to the high ones (any asshole taking a check from the Gun Industry.

You would simply have to believe that all these gun nuts, who spend all day wanking off to the thought of shooting him a darkie like Zimmerman did, would restrain from shooting 99.6% to 99.9999% of the time. It's just not credible.

More to the point, you'd have to believe that 99.6% or whatever people who are desperate enough to risk jail and arrest would be intimidated easily by the sight of some nerd carrying a gun. You know, instead of busting out laughing.

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The facts betray your lack of understanding and intelligence regarding this matter. I laugh. You say, "You would simply have to believe that all these gun nuts, who spend all day wanking off to the thought of shooting him a darkie like Zimmerman did, would restrain from shooting 99.6% to 99.9999% of the time. It's just not credible." Here's the thing. It's not credible only because your premise is demonstrably false. Start with a valid premise and it's not only credible, but absolutely proven, so I'll correct your statement. "You would simply have to believe that all these gun owners, who went through the necessary licensing and training requirements to legally carry a weapon, would restrain from shooting 99.6% to 99.9999% of the time. And that's absolutely true, because they're not randomly shooting people, except in your warped perception. IOW, they defy your perception by living in reality.

Basically, you have to believe really stupid stuff about gun owners to maintain the fiction that you've built in your mind. Sad.

Now, let's deal with the second part of your stupid screed. You say, "More to the point, you'd have to believe that 99.6% or whatever people who are desperate enough to risk jail and arrest would be intimidated easily by the sight of some nerd carrying a gun. You know, instead of busting out laughing." Duh, yeah, that's exactly what would happen most of the time. A criminal who might be willing to risk arrest and jail (that's the real order of things) is much less likely to risk having a hole punched through his gut by that "nerd carrying a gun". 5 years after being giving a 5 year sentence for assault and theft, you walk out of prison a free man. 5 years after being ventilated by a "nerd carrying a gun", you're still dead. Sad that this has to be pointed out to you so often.

 

[Markle]

I don't take sides in the internal affairs of other countries, it just wasn't any of our business. If you were a dumbass trying to face down a tank, that's natural selection. As for the Second Amendment, I'm all for Well-regulated Militias. I was a member of one for years (The Illinois National Guard). The crazy interpretation of the Militia Amendment that Adam Lanza is entitled to an AR-15 is just nuts.

You flunked English, grammar, and punctuation in all levels of your education, didn't you? No one is surprised!

 

[progressive hunter]

Dumb ass, the WINDOW Lanza allegedly shot out was still intact in that pic of Wayne Carver....just another fuck up that was caught.

Really? Looks like a hole to me.

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Where is the footage of a chaotic evacuation scene of 450 other alleged students? Where are the buses?

Why would there be footage? If they are like most schools, the buses probably went back to a depot until they were needed.

Most school districts don't even own their own buses, they outsource the work out to private contractors. You'd know this if you weren't a Russian Troll.

Moving on.

Joe Blowhard, the bloated commie (that sided with the Chi-coms during the Tienanmen Square massacre of 1989) is an unapologetic hater of the 2nd amendment.

I don't take sides in the internal affairs of other countries, it just wasn't any of our business. If you were a dumbass trying to face down a tank, that's natural selection. As for the Second Amendment, I'm all for Well-regulated Militias. I was a member of one for years (The Illinois National Guard). The crazy interpretation of the Militia Amendment that Adam Lanza is entitled to an AR-15 is just nuts.

Joe Blowhard believes that my mom should have never been able to defend herself with a weapon.

Guy, DGU's are a myth.. they don't happen. Do you know how we know they don't happen? Because only 200 gun homicides a year are ruled "Justifiable", and most of those are domestic violence situations.

You'd have to believe that there are millions of times a gun whackadoodle has a criminal in their sights and they DON'T shoot? Like 99.9% of the time? It's just not credible.

the national guard isnt the militia,,,they are enlisted service men paid to do a job,,,

 

[Marion Morrison]

Comrade Dmitri Smirnov trying to convince us he's an American... too funny. Come on, we know Putin doesn't let you have guns, Comrade.
When did you suddenly care about "your country"? I thought you didn't participate in the system and you think it's all a conspiracy by the Jesuits/Bilderbergers
Anyway, out here in the REAL WORLD of America, most of us are sick and tired of the gun fetishists and how we all have to shape our lives around them.

JoeB131 is wrong again! Nothing to see here, folks.
This is JoeB131's world:

Proof I'm right? Gun stores are all sold out of guns and ammo right now.
That's the real world of America here on 7/3/2020, not Bizarro JoeB131 world, where the guns shelves are all full of guns and ammo.

 

[JoeB131]

Here's the thing. It's not credible only because your premise is demonstrably false. Start with a valid premise and it's not only credible, but absolutely proven, so I'll correct your statement. "You would simply have to believe that all these gun owners, who went through the necessary licensing and training requirements to legally carry a weapon, would restrain from shooting 99.6% to 99.9999% of the time. And that's absolutely true, because they're not randomly shooting people, except in your warped perception. IOW, they defy your perception by living in reality.

Again, a five minute discussion with you gun nuts and your fantasies about shooting people, tell me that no, you wouldn't show that much restraint.

 

[JoeB131]

Proof I'm right? Gun stores are all sold out of guns and ammo right now.
That's the real world of America here on 7/3/2020, not Bizarro JoeB131 world, where the guns shelves are all full of guns and ammo.

Uh, those are being bought by the same fetishists.... The scary black people scared them really bad, so more ammo made them feel better.

 

[hadit]

Here's the thing. It's not credible only because your premise is demonstrably false. Start with a valid premise and it's not only credible, but absolutely proven, so I'll correct your statement. "You would simply have to believe that all these gun owners, who went through the necessary licensing and training requirements to legally carry a weapon, would restrain from shooting 99.6% to 99.9999% of the time. And that's absolutely true, because they're not randomly shooting people, except in your warped perception. IOW, they defy your perception by living in reality.

Again, a five minute discussion with you gun nuts and your fantasies about shooting people, tell me that no, you wouldn't show that much restraint.

And reality shows that you're full of crap. If your fantasies were anywhere close to reality, concealed carry permit holders would be among the most dangerous on the planet, yet they're among the safest. Your fantasy simply doesn't align with reality, which is why we call it a fantasy. You have "you wouldn't show that much restraint" and I have "they already DO show that much restraint". Reality vs fantasy.

 

[hadit]

Proof I'm right? Gun stores are all sold out of guns and ammo right now.
That's the real world of America here on 7/3/2020, not Bizarro JoeB131 world, where the guns shelves are all full of guns and ammo.

Uh, those are being bought by the same fetishists.... The scary black people scared them really bad, so more ammo made them feel better.

Yet they're still not randomly shooting people. Your fantasy again doesn't align with reality.

 

[BULLDOG]

Here's the thing. It's not credible only because your premise is demonstrably false. Start with a valid premise and it's not only credible, but absolutely proven, so I'll correct your statement. "You would simply have to believe that all these gun owners, who went through the necessary licensing and training requirements to legally carry a weapon, would restrain from shooting 99.6% to 99.9999% of the time. And that's absolutely true, because they're not randomly shooting people, except in your warped perception. IOW, they defy your perception by living in reality.

Again, a five minute discussion with you gun nuts and your fantasies about shooting people, tell me that no, you wouldn't show that much restraint.

And reality shows that you're full of crap. If your fantasies were anywhere close to reality, concealed carry permit holders would be among the most dangerous on the planet, yet they're among the safest. Your fantasy simply doesn't align with reality, which is why we call it a fantasy. You have "you wouldn't show that much restraint" and I have "they already DO show that much restraint". Reality vs fantasy.

If guns make us safer, then us having more guns per capita than most other industrialized countries should give us less crime, and people in prison, right?

 

[hadit]

Here's the thing. It's not credible only because your premise is demonstrably false. Start with a valid premise and it's not only credible, but absolutely proven, so I'll correct your statement. "You would simply have to believe that all these gun owners, who went through the necessary licensing and training requirements to legally carry a weapon, would restrain from shooting 99.6% to 99.9999% of the time. And that's absolutely true, because they're not randomly shooting people, except in your warped perception. IOW, they defy your perception by living in reality.

Again, a five minute discussion with you gun nuts and your fantasies about shooting people, tell me that no, you wouldn't show that much restraint.

And reality shows that you're full of crap. If your fantasies were anywhere close to reality, concealed carry permit holders would be among the most dangerous on the planet, yet they're among the safest. Your fantasy simply doesn't align with reality, which is why we call it a fantasy. You have "you wouldn't show that much restraint" and I have "they already DO show that much restraint". Reality vs fantasy.

If guns make us safer, then us having more guns per capita than most other industrialized countries should give us less crime, and people in prison, right?

What does that have to do with Joe's fantasy life that he's projecting and insisting is reality? You know, the one where he claims that gun owners are maniacs desperate to shoot somebody. Now, if you can show that concealed carry permit holders are randomly shooting people and getting off on it, we can talk. Minus that, you're just trying to cloud the issue.

 

[Markle]

If guns make us safer, then us having more guns per capita than most other industrialized countries should give us less crime, and people in prison, right?

As you know, we have far fewer violent crimes per million citizens than most first world countries. That is because we, as Americans, have the right to defend ourselves.