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[montelatici]

Whatever, some Christians believe Christ was the first Christian. I have no opinion on the subject.

BULLSHIT you claimed he was the first Christian and was a Roman Christian. You really need to go away for a month or two as you are not making any sense.

For some he is the first Christian just as for some Mohammed is considered the first Muslim although both were "preachers" of different religions prior to establishing the new religion.

 

[montelatici]

Was Martin Luther the first Protestant or just a Catholic priest that didn't get along with management?

 

[Roudy]

Jesus was a Roman subject, so he was a Roman Christian, technically.

However, Christianity became the Empire's state religion in 380 AD with the Edict of Thessalonki.

Now you are being RACIST as he was a Jew and the Romans called him a Jew. No Christianity during his life or for at least 100 years after he died

He was a Roman subject of the Jewish faith all permanent residents of Roman provinces were Roman subjects. There were all sorts of faiths practiced in the Roman Empire.

You said Jesus was a Roman Christian, you ignorant orangutang. Jesus was a Jew living in Israel the Jewish holy land, which had been occupied by Romans. Pali Nazi supporters constantly lie about everything and everyone.

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

So how does that make him a Roman Christian?

 

[Roudy]

If Jesus was the first Christian then he was a Roman Christian by virtue of being a Roman subject. Technically the Romans conquered Judea, not Israel, and made it part of the Empire well before Christ's birth. As Christ said "render onto Caeser" so he knew who was in charge on Earth, anyway.

He wasn't he was Jesus an Orthodox Jew so stop bullshitting to get out of the hole you keep digging.

No hole, some Christians believe Christ was the first Christian. I have no opinion on the matter. So whether the first Christian or Jew, he was a Roman subject.

Just like the invading Arabs who call themselves Palestinians were subjects of the British, after they conquered the Ottoman Empire. Very good, you're learning.

 

[Roudy]

Whatever, some Christians believe Christ was the first Christian. I have no opinion on the subject.

BULLSHIT you claimed he was the first Christian and was a Roman Christian. You really need to go away for a month or two as you are not making any sense.

For some he is the first Christian just as for some Mohammed is considered the first Muslim although both were "preachers" of different religions prior to establishing the new religion.

Wrong again, Muslims think Jesus, Moses and Abraham were all Muslims too, stupido.

 

[Roudy]

Was Martin Luther the first Protestant or just a Catholic priest that didn't get along with management?

Did Jesus consider himself a "Roman" you lying orangutang? No.

 

[montelatici]

Now you are being RACIST as he was a Jew and the Romans called him a Jew. No Christianity during his life or for at least 100 years after he died

He was a Roman subject of the Jewish faith all permanent residents of Roman provinces were Roman subjects. There were all sorts of faiths practiced in the Roman Empire.

You said Jesus was a Roman Christian, you ignorant orangutang. Jesus was a Jew living in Israel the Jewish holy land, which had been occupied by Romans. Pali Nazi supporters constantly lie about everything and everyone.

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

So how does that make him a Roman Christian?

Judea was under direct Roman rule (remember Pontius Pilate, the governor of the province). So, if like many Christians, one considers Jesus the first Christian, then he was a Roman subject and Christian. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

 

[montelatici]

Was Martin Luther the first Protestant or just a Catholic priest that didn't get along with management?

Did Jesus consider himself a "Roman" you lying orangutang? No.

It doesn't really matter what Jesus considered himself, he was a Roman subject, i.e. subject to the rule of Rome. Canadians, prior to 1946 considered themselves Canadian, but were British subjects, for example.

 

[Phoenall]

The logic becomes fuzzy when applied to other founders of religions.

Bahá'u'lláh was a Muslim before he founded Baha'i. Was he a Muslim or the first Baha'i?
Mohamed was a follower an Abrahamic religion prior to the Koran. Was he of his parent's religion or the first Muslim?
John Smith was a Methodist. Was he the first Mormon?

Mohammed was a pagan idol worshipper, shown by his use of the minor moon god allah as his role model.

 

[Phoenall]

Whatever, some Christians believe Christ was the first Christian. I have no opinion on the subject.

BULLSHIT you claimed he was the first Christian and was a Roman Christian. You really need to go away for a month or two as you are not making any sense.

For some he is the first Christian just as for some Mohammed is considered the first Muslim although both were "preachers" of different religions prior to establishing the new religion.

I and many thousands of true Christians see Jesus as a prophet of Judaism and a preacher of peaceful intent. The first Christian was Peter, who became the first Pope. From then on Catholisism went downhill.

 

[Roudy]

He was a Roman subject of the Jewish faith all permanent residents of Roman provinces were Roman subjects. There were all sorts of faiths practiced in the Roman Empire.

You said Jesus was a Roman Christian, you ignorant orangutang. Jesus was a Jew living in Israel the Jewish holy land, which had been occupied by Romans. Pali Nazi supporters constantly lie about everything and everyone.

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

So how does that make him a Roman Christian?

Judea was under direct Roman rule (remember Pontius Pilate, the governor of the province). So, if like many Christians, one considers Jesus the first Christian, then he was a Roman subject and Christian. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Jesus didn't consider himself a Christian, or a Roman, or Palestinian, or Arab...he considered himself a devout Jew who also loved his nation, Israel. That made him a Zionist.

Devastating for a Jew hating orangutan like you, but nevertheless, true.

 

[montelatici]

You said Jesus was a Roman Christian, you ignorant orangutang. Jesus was a Jew living in Israel the Jewish holy land, which had been occupied by Romans. Pali Nazi supporters constantly lie about everything and everyone.

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

So how does that make him a Roman Christian?

Judea was under direct Roman rule (remember Pontius Pilate, the governor of the province). So, if like many Christians, one considers Jesus the first Christian, then he was a Roman subject and Christian. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Jesus didn't consider himself a Christian, or a Roman, or Palestinian, or Arab...he considered himself a devout Jew who also loved his nation, Israel. That made him a Zionist.

Devastating for a Jew hating orangutan like you, but nevertheless, true.

What nation was that? There was no Israel at the time. And, of course he was a Roman subject.

 

[Roudy]

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

So how does that make him a Roman Christian?

Judea was under direct Roman rule (remember Pontius Pilate, the governor of the province). So, if like many Christians, one considers Jesus the first Christian, then he was a Roman subject and Christian. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Jesus didn't consider himself a Christian, or a Roman, or Palestinian, or Arab...he considered himself a devout Jew who also loved his nation, Israel. That made him a Zionist.

Devastating for a Jew hating orangutan like you, but nevertheless, true.

What nation was that? There was no Israel at the time. And, of course he was a Roman subject.

And here you were telling us a few posts ago that Jesus was a Judean Jew.

That's the problem with you liars. You loose track of your own bullshit. Gotten used to the taste of your foot in your mouth yet?

 

[Phoenall]

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

So how does that make him a Roman Christian?

Judea was under direct Roman rule (remember Pontius Pilate, the governor of the province). So, if like many Christians, one considers Jesus the first Christian, then he was a Roman subject and Christian. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Jesus didn't consider himself a Christian, or a Roman, or Palestinian, or Arab...he considered himself a devout Jew who also loved his nation, Israel. That made him a Zionist.

Devastating for a Jew hating orangutan like you, but nevertheless, true.

What nation was that? There was no Israel at the time. And, of course he was a Roman subject.

You mean like there is no nation of Palestine today ?

 

[montelatici]

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

So how does that make him a Roman Christian?

Judea was under direct Roman rule (remember Pontius Pilate, the governor of the province). So, if like many Christians, one considers Jesus the first Christian, then he was a Roman subject and Christian. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Jesus didn't consider himself a Christian, or a Roman, or Palestinian, or Arab...he considered himself a devout Jew who also loved his nation, Israel. That made him a Zionist.

Devastating for a Jew hating orangutan like you, but nevertheless, true.

What nation was that? There was no Israel at the time. And, of course he was a Roman subject.

And here you were telling us a few posts ago that Jesus was a Judean Jew.

That's the problem with you liars. You loose track of your own bullshit. Gotten used to the taste of your foot in your mouth yet?

Try to keep up. Israel is one thing and Judea is another. Jesus was, in fact, born in Judea. You do understand that there is a difference.

By the way, do you believe Mohammed was the first Muslim?

 

[Phoenall]

So how does that make him a Roman Christian?

Judea was under direct Roman rule (remember Pontius Pilate, the governor of the province). So, if like many Christians, one considers Jesus the first Christian, then he was a Roman subject and Christian. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Jesus didn't consider himself a Christian, or a Roman, or Palestinian, or Arab...he considered himself a devout Jew who also loved his nation, Israel. That made him a Zionist.

Devastating for a Jew hating orangutan like you, but nevertheless, true.

What nation was that? There was no Israel at the time. And, of course he was a Roman subject.

And here you were telling us a few posts ago that Jesus was a Judean Jew.

That's the problem with you liars. You loose track of your own bullshit. Gotten used to the taste of your foot in your mouth yet?

Try to keep up. Israel is one thing and Judea is another. Jesus was, in fact, born in Judea. You do understand that there is a difference.

By the way, do you believe Mohammed was the first Muslim?

Do tell us what this difference is then freddy boy, as Judea is part of Isreal along with Samaria.


Do you or do you believe what he says that Moses and Abraham were muslims ?

 

[Roudy]

So how does that make him a Roman Christian?

Judea was under direct Roman rule (remember Pontius Pilate, the governor of the province). So, if like many Christians, one considers Jesus the first Christian, then he was a Roman subject and Christian. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Jesus didn't consider himself a Christian, or a Roman, or Palestinian, or Arab...he considered himself a devout Jew who also loved his nation, Israel. That made him a Zionist.

Devastating for a Jew hating orangutan like you, but nevertheless, true.

What nation was that? There was no Israel at the time. And, of course he was a Roman subject.

And here you were telling us a few posts ago that Jesus was a Judean Jew.

That's the problem with you liars. You loose track of your own bullshit. Gotten used to the taste of your foot in your mouth yet?

Try to keep up. Israel is one thing and Judea is another. Jesus was, in fact, born in Judea. You do understand that there is a difference.

By the way, do you believe Mohammed was the first Muslim?

Jesus did not set about to create another faith but Mohammad did.

Jesus was a Jew who preached Judaism, and like his Judean Jewish brethren he was distraught over the Roman occupation. He would be insulted if someone called him a "Roman".

You even mutilate and insult the Christian religion. Typical.

 

[montelatici]

You said Jesus was a Roman Christian, you ignorant orangutang. Jesus was a Jew living in Israel the Jewish holy land, which had been occupied by Romans. Pali Nazi supporters constantly lie about everything and everyone.

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

So how does that make him a Roman Christian?

Judea was under direct Roman rule (remember Pontius Pilate, the governor of the province). So, if like many Christians, one considers Jesus the first Christian, then he was a Roman subject and Christian. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Jesus didn't consider himself a Christian, or a Roman, or Palestinian, or Arab...he considered himself a devout Jew who also loved his nation, Israel. That made him a Zionist.

Devastating for a Jew hating orangutan like you, but nevertheless, true.

Whatever made you believe I hate Jews? I am opposed Zionism and other exclusive nationalist, racialist or religious movements. Christ was no Zionist, after all it was he who stated "Render onto Caeser". Would a Zionist have ever said anything of the sort? What a dummy you are. LOL

 

[Roudy]

No cigar. You are a proven bigot. Jesus didn't consider himself a Roman or a Christian.

He considered the Romans the oppressors and invaders of the land God promised his people. Just like today's Arab Muslims.

 

[Challenger]

Jesus was a Jew who preached Judaism...

Did he? If that was the case why did the supreme Jewish religious and legal body, the Sanhedrin, want him dead?