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[Roudy]

Jesus was a Jew who preached Judaism...

Did he? If that was the case why did the supreme Jewish religious and legal body, the Sanhedrin, want him dead?

What religion do you think he preached, dufus, Islam? Is that why his Jewish deciples called him rabbi? You antisemites are hilarious.

Did they? Who says?

It's in the New Testament, DUMBASS!

Mark 11:21
Peter remembered and said to Jesus, "Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!"

John 1:38
Turning around, Jesus saw them following and asked, "What do you want?" They said, Rabbi, "where are you staying?"

John 3:2
He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him."

John 3:26
They came to John and said to him, "Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan--the one you testified about--look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him."

John 4:31
Meanwhile his disciples urged him, "Rabbi, eat something."John 6:25
When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, "Rabbi, when did you get here?"

John 9:2
His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"

etc. etc. etc.

 

[Roudy]

Jesus was a Jew who preached Judaism...

Did he? If that was the case why did the supreme Jewish religious and legal body, the Sanhedrin, want him dead?

What religion do you think he preached, dufus, Islam? Is that why his Jewish deciples called him rabbi? You antisemites are hilarious.

Ruddy isn't going to stop until he convinces us Christians that we are really Jews. The guy is demented.

Christianty was created by Jews who mixed Judaism with the Roman belief of Mithraism to make it more palatable...

Prove it.

it is fact.

 

[Judicial review]

Did he? If that was the case why did the supreme Jewish religious and legal body, the Sanhedrin, want him dead?

What religion do you think he preached, dufus, Islam? Is that why his Jewish deciples called him rabbi? You antisemites are hilarious.

Ruddy isn't going to stop until he convinces us Christians that we are really Jews. The guy is demented.

Christianty was created by Jews who mixed Judaism with the Roman belief of Mithraism to make it more palatable...

Prove it.

it is fact.

Says the Jew. WoW are you full of hypocritical bullshit.

 

[Challenger]

Jesus was a Jew who preached Judaism...

Did he? If that was the case why did the supreme Jewish religious and legal body, the Sanhedrin, want him dead?

What religion do you think he preached, dufus, Islam? Is that why his Jewish deciples called him rabbi? You antisemites are hilarious.

Did they? Who says?

It's in the New Testament, DUMBASS!

Mark 11:21
Peter remembered and said to Jesus, "Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!"

John 1:38
Turning around, Jesus saw them following and asked, "What do you want?" They said, Rabbi, "where are you staying?"

John 3:2
He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him."

John 3:26
They came to John and said to him, "Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan--the one you testified about--look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him."

John 4:31
Meanwhile his disciples urged him, "Rabbi, eat something."John 6:25
When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, "Rabbi, when did you get here?"

John 9:2
His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"

etc. etc. etc.

Which version of the New Testament? In some versions of the NT those same verses substitute the words "master" or "lord" for "rabbi". The original NT was writen in ancient Greek which would probably have used words such as "Paideutes" or "Didaskalos" or even "Despotes" It all depends which translation/version is used.

 

[Challenger]

Did he? If that was the case why did the supreme Jewish religious and legal body, the Sanhedrin, want him dead?

What religion do you think he preached, dufus, Islam? Is that why his Jewish deciples called him rabbi? You antisemites are hilarious.

Ruddy isn't going to stop until he convinces us Christians that we are really Jews. The guy is demented.

Christianty was created by Jews who mixed Judaism with the Roman belief of Mithraism to make it more palatable...

Prove it.

it is fact.

I'l take that as, "Rude-eee has no idea what he's talking about, has been found out and called on it, so reverts to type and trolls."

 

[Roudy]

What religion do you think he preached, dufus, Islam? Is that why his Jewish deciples called him rabbi? You antisemites are hilarious.

Ruddy isn't going to stop until he convinces us Christians that we are really Jews. The guy is demented.

Christianty was created by Jews who mixed Judaism with the Roman belief of Mithraism to make it more palatable...

Prove it.

it is fact.

I'l take that as, "Rude-eee has no idea what he's talking about, has been found out and called on it, so reverts to type and trolls."

I take that you're probably not a Christian, as this is all basic knowledge. Was your conversion painful, Achmed?

Acts 11 19-26 - When The Disciples Were First Called Christians

"Believers, driven from their homes in Jerusalem, were scattered here and there throughout Palestine. They had lost their homes and property, but not their faith. They went as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch. What did they do? They spoke the word of the Lord, at first only to their own countrymen, the Jews. Jesus was a Jew, born of the tribe of Judah. All His apostles, the first converts, were Jews as well.

The Gospel Comes To Antioch
"So then, those who were scattered because of the persecution that arose in connection with Steven made their way to Phoenicia and Cyprus and Antioch, speaking the word to no one except Jews alone. But there were some of them, men of Cyprus and Cyrene, who came to Antioch and began speaking to the Greeks also, preaching the Lord Jesus." (Acts 11:19,20).

It was at Antioch that there was a change of course, though careful consideration shows that such had been the Lord's plan all along. It was at Antioch that some of the Jewish believers in Christ from Cyprus and Cyrene began to do something that would effect the whole world. Perhaps these were some of those who had been visiting at Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost when the apostles had first proclaimed the risen Lord. At any rate, these disciples began to preach the word not only to other Jews, but also to Greeks as well.

Of course, Jesus had said it would be this way. He had commissioned His apostles to "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit..." (Matthew 28:19). He had talked of having "other sheep not of this fold" speaking of the Greeks as opposed to the "lost sheep of Israel" with whom He chiefly dealt during His personal ministry on earth (John 10:16). "

 

[Roudy]

Jesus was a Jew who preached Judaism...

Did he? If that was the case why did the supreme Jewish religious and legal body, the Sanhedrin, want him dead?

What religion do you think he preached, dufus, Islam? Is that why his Jewish deciples called him rabbi? You antisemites are hilarious.

Did they? Who says?

It's in the New Testament, DUMBASS!

Mark 11:21
Peter remembered and said to Jesus, "Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!"

John 1:38
Turning around, Jesus saw them following and asked, "What do you want?" They said, Rabbi, "where are you staying?"

John 3:2
He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him."

John 3:26
They came to John and said to him, "Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan--the one you testified about--look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him."

John 4:31
Meanwhile his disciples urged him, "Rabbi, eat something."John 6:25
When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, "Rabbi, when did you get here?"

John 9:2
His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"

etc. etc. etc.

Which version of the New Testament? In some versions of the NT those same verses substitute the words "master" or "lord" for "rabbi". The original NT was writen in ancient Greek which would probably have used words such as "Paideutes" or "Didaskalos" or even "Despotes" It all depends which translation/version is used.

Yada yada yada, blah blah blah.

Thou doth protest too much, methinks.

You asked for proof and I showed it to you, dirtbag. There are different versions of New Testament? DOH! Ya don't say?! Ha ha ha.

 

[Challenger]

Did he? If that was the case why did the supreme Jewish religious and legal body, the Sanhedrin, want him dead?

What religion do you think he preached, dufus, Islam? Is that why his Jewish deciples called him rabbi? You antisemites are hilarious.

Did they? Who says?

It's in the New Testament, DUMBASS!

Mark 11:21
Peter remembered and said to Jesus, "Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!"

John 1:38
Turning around, Jesus saw them following and asked, "What do you want?" They said, Rabbi, "where are you staying?"

John 3:2
He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him."

John 3:26
They came to John and said to him, "Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan--the one you testified about--look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him."

John 4:31
Meanwhile his disciples urged him, "Rabbi, eat something."John 6:25
When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, "Rabbi, when did you get here?"

John 9:2
His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"

etc. etc. etc.

Which version of the New Testament? In some versions of the NT those same verses substitute the words "master" or "lord" for "rabbi". The original NT was writen in ancient Greek which would probably have used words such as "Paideutes" or "Didaskalos" or even "Despotes" It all depends which translation/version is used.

Yada yada yada, blah blah blah.

Thou doth protest too much, methinks.

You asked for proof and I showed it to you, dirtbag. There are different versions of New Testament? DOH! Ya don't say?! Ha ha ha.

Yeah, pity the word "Rabbi" comes from Mishnaic Hebrew, a language not spoken until after the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple by the Romans, in 70CE about 30 years after his death, prior to that it was only used as a liturgical or literary language, not used in general everyday conversation. We have no evidence that Jesus' disciples (assuming he existed at all) would have called him anything using Mishnaic Hebrew.

 

[Challenger]

Ruddy isn't going to stop until he convinces us Christians that we are really Jews. The guy is demented.

Christianty was created by Jews who mixed Judaism with the Roman belief of Mithraism to make it more palatable...

Prove it.

it is fact.

I'l take that as, "Rude-eee has no idea what he's talking about, has been found out and called on it, so reverts to type and trolls."

I take that you're probably not a Christian, as this is all basic knowledge. Was your conversion painful, Achmed?

Acts 11 19-26 - When The Disciples Were First Called Christians

"Believers, driven from their homes in Jerusalem, were scattered here and there throughout Palestine. They had lost their homes and property, but not their faith. They went as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch. What did they do? They spoke the word of the Lord, at first only to their own countrymen, the Jews. Jesus was a Jew, born of the tribe of Judah. All His apostles, the first converts, were Jews as well.

The Gospel Comes To Antioch
"So then, those who were scattered because of the persecution that arose in connection with Steven made their way to Phoenicia and Cyprus and Antioch, speaking the word to no one except Jews alone. But there were some of them, men of Cyprus and Cyrene, who came to Antioch and began speaking to the Greeks also, preaching the Lord Jesus." (Acts 11:19,20).

It was at Antioch that there was a change of course, though careful consideration shows that such had been the Lord's plan all along. It was at Antioch that some of the Jewish believers in Christ from Cyprus and Cyrene began to do something that would effect the whole world. Perhaps these were some of those who had been visiting at Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost when the apostles had first proclaimed the risen Lord. At any rate, these disciples began to preach the word not only to other Jews, but also to Greeks as well.

Of course, Jesus had said it would be this way. He had commissioned His apostles to "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit..." (Matthew 28:19). He had talked of having "other sheep not of this fold" speaking of the Greeks as opposed to the "lost sheep of Israel" with whom He chiefly dealt during His personal ministry on earth (John 10:16). "

...and this relates to "Christianty was created by Jews who mixed Judaism with the Roman belief of Mithraism to make it more palatable..." How?

 

[Roudy]

What religion do you think he preached, dufus, Islam? Is that why his Jewish deciples called him rabbi? You antisemites are hilarious.

Did they? Who says?

It's in the New Testament, DUMBASS!

Mark 11:21
Peter remembered and said to Jesus, "Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!"

John 1:38
Turning around, Jesus saw them following and asked, "What do you want?" They said, Rabbi, "where are you staying?"

John 3:2
He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him."

John 3:26
They came to John and said to him, "Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan--the one you testified about--look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him."

John 4:31
Meanwhile his disciples urged him, "Rabbi, eat something."John 6:25
When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, "Rabbi, when did you get here?"

John 9:2
His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"

etc. etc. etc.

Which version of the New Testament? In some versions of the NT those same verses substitute the words "master" or "lord" for "rabbi". The original NT was writen in ancient Greek which would probably have used words such as "Paideutes" or "Didaskalos" or even "Despotes" It all depends which translation/version is used.

Yada yada yada, blah blah blah.

Thou doth protest too much, methinks.

You asked for proof and I showed it to you, dirtbag. There are different versions of New Testament? DOH! Ya don't say?! Ha ha ha.

Yeah, pity the word "Rabbi" comes from Mishnaic Hebrew, a language not spoken until after the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple by the Romans, in 70CE about 30 years after his death, prior to that it was only used as a liturgical or literary language, not used in general everyday conversation. We have no evidence that Jesus' disciples (assuming he existed at all) would have called him anything using Mishnaic Hebrew.

Whatever! Jesus' deciples and followers called him Rabbi in the New Testament. Get over it, or don't. Who gives a Shiite.

 

[Roudy]

Christianty was created by Jews who mixed Judaism with the Roman belief of Mithraism to make it more palatable...

Prove it.

it is fact.

I'l take that as, "Rude-eee has no idea what he's talking about, has been found out and called on it, so reverts to type and trolls."

I take that you're probably not a Christian, as this is all basic knowledge. Was your conversion painful, Achmed?

Acts 11 19-26 - When The Disciples Were First Called Christians

"Believers, driven from their homes in Jerusalem, were scattered here and there throughout Palestine. They had lost their homes and property, but not their faith. They went as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch. What did they do? They spoke the word of the Lord, at first only to their own countrymen, the Jews. Jesus was a Jew, born of the tribe of Judah. All His apostles, the first converts, were Jews as well.

The Gospel Comes To Antioch
"So then, those who were scattered because of the persecution that arose in connection with Steven made their way to Phoenicia and Cyprus and Antioch, speaking the word to no one except Jews alone. But there were some of them, men of Cyprus and Cyrene, who came to Antioch and began speaking to the Greeks also, preaching the Lord Jesus." (Acts 11:19,20).

It was at Antioch that there was a change of course, though careful consideration shows that such had been the Lord's plan all along. It was at Antioch that some of the Jewish believers in Christ from Cyprus and Cyrene began to do something that would effect the whole world. Perhaps these were some of those who had been visiting at Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost when the apostles had first proclaimed the risen Lord. At any rate, these disciples began to preach the word not only to other Jews, but also to Greeks as well.

Of course, Jesus had said it would be this way. He had commissioned His apostles to "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit..." (Matthew 28:19). He had talked of having "other sheep not of this fold" speaking of the Greeks as opposed to the "lost sheep of Israel" with whom He chiefly dealt during His personal ministry on earth (John 10:16). "

...and this relates to "Christianty was created by Jews who mixed Judaism with the Roman belief of Mithraism to make it more palatable..." How?

I just showed you that Jesus' deciples the ones who wrote the gospels and began preaching it were Jews. Look up the Mithraism which was the official religion of Rome at the time, the similarities are astounding. Of course they had to be similar or palatable, considering that this new faith was being preached to non Jews.

But, to each his own. The reason it's called faith is because that's what it requires.

 

[Phoenall]

What religion do you think he preached, dufus, Islam? Is that why his Jewish deciples called him rabbi? You antisemites are hilarious.

Did they? Who says?

It's in the New Testament, DUMBASS!

Mark 11:21
Peter remembered and said to Jesus, "Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!"

John 1:38
Turning around, Jesus saw them following and asked, "What do you want?" They said, Rabbi, "where are you staying?"

John 3:2
He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him."

John 3:26
They came to John and said to him, "Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan--the one you testified about--look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him."

John 4:31
Meanwhile his disciples urged him, "Rabbi, eat something."John 6:25
When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, "Rabbi, when did you get here?"

John 9:2
His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"

etc. etc. etc.

Which version of the New Testament? In some versions of the NT those same verses substitute the words "master" or "lord" for "rabbi". The original NT was writen in ancient Greek which would probably have used words such as "Paideutes" or "Didaskalos" or even "Despotes" It all depends which translation/version is used.

Yada yada yada, blah blah blah.

Thou doth protest too much, methinks.

You asked for proof and I showed it to you, dirtbag. There are different versions of New Testament? DOH! Ya don't say?! Ha ha ha.

Yeah, pity the word "Rabbi" comes from Mishnaic Hebrew, a language not spoken until after the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple by the Romans, in 70CE about 30 years after his death, prior to that it was only used as a liturgical or literary language, not used in general everyday conversation. We have no evidence that Jesus' disciples (assuming he existed at all) would have called him anything using Mishnaic Hebrew.

Then prove it rat boy from a valid unbiased source

 

[theliq]

You said Jesus was a Roman Christian, you ignorant orangutang. Jesus was a Jew living in Israel the Jewish holy land, which had been occupied by Romans. Pali Nazi supporters constantly lie about everything and everyone.

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

So how does that make him a Roman Christian?

Judea was under direct Roman rule (remember Pontius Pilate, the governor of the province). So, if like many Christians, one considers Jesus the first Christian, then he was a Roman subject and Christian. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Jesus didn't consider himself a Christian, or a Roman, or Palestinian, or Arab...he considered himself a devout Jew who also loved his nation, Israel. That made him a Zionist.

Devastating for a Jew hating orangutan like you, but nevertheless, true.

You are NUTS if you think that.........Zionism came 19 Centuries Later for one,Jesus would be against Zionism completely,like he was the Jewish scribes at the time......anyway Jesus preached LOVE not HATE...........moreover Bethlehem ironically is Palestinian.........The only ANTI-JEW ON HERE IS YOU AND YOUR RABBLE.

 

[theliq]

Whatever, some Christians believe Christ was the first Christian. I have no opinion on the subject.

BULLSHIT you claimed he was the first Christian and was a Roman Christian. You really need to go away for a month or two as you are not making any sense.

For some he is the first Christian just as for some Mohammed is considered the first Muslim although both were "preachers" of different religions prior to establishing the new religion.

I and many thousands of true Christians see Jesus as a prophet of Judaism and a preacher of peaceful intent. The first Christian was Peter, who became the first Pope. From then on Catholisism went downhill.

No not a prophet of Judaism at all but a Prophet to all and for all.........during his life most Jews detested him.....that is why Jews insisted he be Crucified......you are such an Idiot.....one of your fools,insisted Jesus was a ZIONIST.....you can't get more DEPRAVED THAT THAT

 

[theliq]

We are talking pre "Exodus" Roudy.....try to CONCENTRATE.......no one is denying ancient Israel......get with the programme..steve

So explain the ones from after the exodus that have been found. How about the Dead Sea scrolls that have been dated to after Roman invasion ?

Was Abraham a Jew? Was Moses a Jew?

When was the first time the word Jew was used in the Bible?

Abraham was called a Hebrew and Moses was known as an Israelite. The first time the word "Jew" was used in the Bible might have been in the Book of Esther, referring to her uncle Mordecai.

Clearly Forever,you and the rest of the uneducated and unclean, have a limited grasp of Arabic or Jewish seminal beginnings......Abraham was Neither Jew or Arab....but a mixture called a Shemite.(this is why you have some Semitic Jews and the Palestinians)

Abraham WAS THE FATHER OF "ISHMAEL" whose decendents became THE ARABS.......Abraham was the GREAT,GREAT GRANDFATHER OF "JUDAH" whose decendents became known as THE JEWS..........HE WAS NEITHER ISRAELITE OR JEW BECAUSE NEITHER EXISTED AT THIS TIME.

So Guys when you take your heads out of your ASSES,and educate yourselves....talk to theliq again.

I am theliq....Ever Living,Ever Faithful,Ever Sure................Always EDUCATING the Jewish possee on here.

I never said that Abraham wasn't descended from Shem. What I said was that he was known as a Hebrew. Genesis, Chapter 14, verse 13, and I quote: "And there came one that had escaped and told Abram the Hebrew..." (that his nephew Lot had been taken captive in a war). So much for me being uneducated. I also never said that he wasn't the father of Ishmael. I simply responded to Tinmore's question as to what Abraham/Abram was called.

It is what you don't say that shows your real intent......NOT GOOD ENOUGH when you are dealing with us,Tinnie,Monti,Challenger and all.

You can Bullshit yourself,which you clearly do most of the time.........but don't try foisting your Bullshit on us......you sad little man.

 

[Roudy]

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

So how does that make him a Roman Christian?

Judea was under direct Roman rule (remember Pontius Pilate, the governor of the province). So, if like many Christians, one considers Jesus the first Christian, then he was a Roman subject and Christian. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Jesus didn't consider himself a Christian, or a Roman, or Palestinian, or Arab...he considered himself a devout Jew who also loved his nation, Israel. That made him a Zionist.

Devastating for a Jew hating orangutan like you, but nevertheless, true.

You are NUTS if you think that.........Zionism came 19 Centuries Later for one,Jesus would be against Zionism completely,like he was the Jewish scribes at the time......anyway Jesus preached LOVE not HATE...........moreover Bethlehem ironically is Palestinian.........The only ANTI-JEW ON HERE IS YOU AND YOUR RABBLE.

Actually wrong again kangaroo breath, Jews, not the Muslim Arab invaders, have been thinking and coming back to Israel for thousands of years. Zionism is based on the biblical Zionism, the story of Exodus, which goes back 4500 years.


National Home for the Jewish people. This interpretation was publicly given in Palestine on the 3rd June, 1921, by the High Commissioner in the following words :—

" These words (National Home) mean that the Jews, who are a people scattered throughout the world, but whose hearts are always turned to Palestine should be enabled to found here their home, and that some amongst them, within the limits fixed by numbers and the interests of the present population, should come to Palestine in order to help by their resources and efforts to develop the country to the advantage of all its inhabitants."

This interpretation was endorsed by the Secretary of State in his speech to the House of Commons on the 14th June, 1921. Mr. Churchill is reluctant to believe that your Delegation, or the people whom they represent, can entertain any objection in principle to the policy as thus interpreted.

 

[Roudy]

So explain the ones from after the exodus that have been found. How about the Dead Sea scrolls that have been dated to after Roman invasion ?

Was Abraham a Jew? Was Moses a Jew?

When was the first time the word Jew was used in the Bible?

Abraham was called a Hebrew and Moses was known as an Israelite. The first time the word "Jew" was used in the Bible might have been in the Book of Esther, referring to her uncle Mordecai.

Clearly Forever,you and the rest of the uneducated and unclean, have a limited grasp of Arabic or Jewish seminal beginnings......Abraham was Neither Jew or Arab....but a mixture called a Shemite.(this is why you have some Semitic Jews and the Palestinians)

Abraham WAS THE FATHER OF "ISHMAEL" whose decendents became THE ARABS.......Abraham was the GREAT,GREAT GRANDFATHER OF "JUDAH" whose decendents became known as THE JEWS..........HE WAS NEITHER ISRAELITE OR JEW BECAUSE NEITHER EXISTED AT THIS TIME.

So Guys when you take your heads out of your ASSES,and educate yourselves....talk to theliq again.

I am theliq....Ever Living,Ever Faithful,Ever Sure................Always EDUCATING the Jewish possee on here.

I never said that Abraham wasn't descended from Shem. What I said was that he was known as a Hebrew. Genesis, Chapter 14, verse 13, and I quote: "And there came one that had escaped and told Abram the Hebrew..." (that his nephew Lot had been taken captive in a war). So much for me being uneducated. I also never said that he wasn't the father of Ishmael. I simply responded to Tinmore's question as to what Abraham/Abram was called.

It is what you don't say that shows your real intent......NOT GOOD ENOUGH when you are dealing with us,Tinnie,Monti,Challenger and all.

You can Bullshit yourself,which you clearly do most of the time.........but don't try foisting your Bullshit on us......you sad little man.

the question is how did the illiterate Arabian terrorist Mohammad know that he's a DIRECT DESCENDANT of Ishmael Abraham's son, both of which lived around 3000 years before Mohammad did?! Was the website ancestry.com available back in the 7th century? Or perhaps he had access to DNA genealogy labs? Or, more likely, he threatened to chop off whosoever's head that contested this assertion? Yep, I'll vote for the last one.

 

[Roudy]

Did they? Who says?

It's in the New Testament, DUMBASS!

Mark 11:21
Peter remembered and said to Jesus, "Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!"

John 1:38
Turning around, Jesus saw them following and asked, "What do you want?" They said, Rabbi, "where are you staying?"

John 3:2
He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him."

John 3:26
They came to John and said to him, "Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan--the one you testified about--look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him."

John 4:31
Meanwhile his disciples urged him, "Rabbi, eat something."John 6:25
When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, "Rabbi, when did you get here?"

John 9:2
His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"

etc. etc. etc.

Which version of the New Testament? In some versions of the NT those same verses substitute the words "master" or "lord" for "rabbi". The original NT was writen in ancient Greek which would probably have used words such as "Paideutes" or "Didaskalos" or even "Despotes" It all depends which translation/version is used.

Yada yada yada, blah blah blah.

Thou doth protest too much, methinks.

You asked for proof and I showed it to you, dirtbag. There are different versions of New Testament? DOH! Ya don't say?! Ha ha ha.

Yeah, pity the word "Rabbi" comes from Mishnaic Hebrew, a language not spoken until after the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple by the Romans, in 70CE about 30 years after his death, prior to that it was only used as a liturgical or literary language, not used in general everyday conversation. We have no evidence that Jesus' disciples (assuming he existed at all) would have called him anything using Mishnaic Hebrew.

Then prove it rat boy from a valid unbiased source

Every time we embarrass these ignorant antisemites, they squeal like pigs in heat. LOL

 

[theliq]

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

So how does that make him a Roman Christian?

Judea was under direct Roman rule (remember Pontius Pilate, the governor of the province). So, if like many Christians, one considers Jesus the first Christian, then he was a Roman subject and Christian. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Jesus didn't consider himself a Christian, or a Roman, or Palestinian, or Arab...he considered himself a devout Jew who also loved his nation, Israel. That made him a Zionist.

Devastating for a Jew hating orangutan like you, but nevertheless, true.

You are NUTS if you think that.........Zionism came 19 Centuries Later for one,Jesus would be against Zionism completely,like he was the Jewish scribes at the time......anyway Jesus preached LOVE not HATE...........moreover Bethlehem ironically is Palestinian.........The only ANTI-JEW ON HERE IS YOU AND YOUR RABBLE.

Actually wrong again kangaroo breath, Jews, not the Muslim Arab invaders, have been thinking and coming back to Israel for thousands of years. Zionism is based on the biblical Zionism, the story of Exodus, which goes back 4500 years.


National Home for the Jewish people. This interpretation was publicly given in Palestine on the 3rd June, 1921, by the High Commissioner in the following words :—

" These words (National Home) mean that the Jews, who are a people scattered throughout the world, but whose hearts are always turned to Palestine should be enabled to found here their home, and that some amongst them, within the limits fixed by numbers and the interests of the present population, should come to Palestine in order to help by their resources and efforts to develop the country to the advantage of all its inhabitants."

This interpretation was endorsed by the Secretary of State in his speech to the House of Commons on the 14th June, 1921. Mr. Churchill is reluctant to believe that your Delegation, or the people whom they represent, can entertain any objection in principle to the policy as thus interpreted.

Well every conquered nation can harp back,so you cannot complain that the Palestinians are rightly fighting for their land Roudy.....you cannot have it both ways........actually Kangaroo Breath ain't that bad.....not like Camel Breath......I am not going to say that you have that, because it's child minded

 

[theliq]

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

So how does that make him a Roman Christian?

Judea was under direct Roman rule (remember Pontius Pilate, the governor of the province). So, if like many Christians, one considers Jesus the first Christian, then he was a Roman subject and Christian. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Jesus didn't consider himself a Christian, or a Roman, or Palestinian, or Arab...he considered himself a devout Jew who also loved his nation, Israel. That made him a Zionist.

Devastating for a Jew hating orangutan like you, but nevertheless, true.

You are NUTS if you think that.........Zionism came 19 Centuries Later for one,Jesus would be against Zionism completely,like he was the Jewish scribes at the time......anyway Jesus preached LOVE not HATE...........moreover Bethlehem ironically is Palestinian.........The only ANTI-JEW ON HERE IS YOU AND YOUR RABBLE.

Actually wrong again kangaroo breath, Jews, not the Muslim Arab invaders, have been thinking and coming back to Israel for thousands of years. Zionism is based on the biblical Zionism, the story of Exodus, which goes back 4500 years.


National Home for the Jewish people. This interpretation was publicly given in Palestine on the 3rd June, 1921, by the High Commissioner in the following words :—

" These words (National Home) mean that the Jews, who are a people scattered throughout the world, but whose hearts are always turned to Palestine should be enabled to found here their home, and that some amongst them, within the limits fixed by numbers and the interests of the present population, should come to Palestine in order to help by their resources and efforts to develop the country to the advantage of all its inhabitants."

This interpretation was endorsed by the Secretary of State in his speech to the House of Commons on the 14th June, 1921. Mr. Churchill is reluctant to believe that your Delegation, or the people whom they represent, can entertain any objection in principle to the policy as thus interpreted.

Why do you Roudy keep putting Winston Churchill as some pro-Jewish observer,when he was a rabid Anti-Semite.....steve