Aliens

[ForeverYoung436]

Two antisemitic nutjobs sharing notes, denying the existence of ancient Israel.

Gee, where did all these artifacts with Hebrew on them come from? Ha ha ha.

We are talking pre "Exodus" Roudy.....try to CONCENTRATE.......no one is denying ancient Israel......get with the programme..steve

So explain the ones from after the exodus that have been found. How about the Dead Sea scrolls that have been dated to after Roman invasion ?

Was Abraham a Jew? Was Moses a Jew?

When was the first time the word Jew was used in the Bible?

Abraham was called a Hebrew and Moses was known as an Israelite. The first time the word "Jew" was used in the Bible might have been in the Book of Esther, referring to her uncle Mordecai.

Clearly Forever,you and the rest of the uneducated and unclean, have a limited grasp of Arabic or Jewish seminal beginnings......Abraham was Neither Jew or Arab....but a mixture called a Shemite.(this is why you have some Semitic Jews and the Palestinians)

Abraham WAS THE FATHER OF "ISHMAEL" whose decendents became THE ARABS.......Abraham was the GREAT,GREAT GRANDFATHER OF "JUDAH" whose decendents became known as THE JEWS..........HE WAS NEITHER ISRAELITE OR JEW BECAUSE NEITHER EXISTED AT THIS TIME.

So Guys when you take your heads out of your ASSES,and educate yourselves....talk to theliq again.

I am theliq....Ever Living,Ever Faithful,Ever Sure................Always EDUCATING the Jewish possee on here.

I never said that Abraham wasn't descended from Shem. What I said was that he was known as a Hebrew. Genesis, Chapter 14, verse 13, and I quote: "And there came one that had escaped and told Abram the Hebrew..." (that his nephew Lot had been taken captive in a war). So much for me being uneducated. I also never said that he wasn't the father of Ishmael. I simply responded to Tinmore's question as to what Abraham/Abram was called.

 

[montelatici]

The people of Palestine converted from Christianity to Islam over centuries after the Byzantines were defeated. They practiced Roman religion(s) prior to that.

and some do today of course Monti,Christian Palestinians..steve

Oh I'm sorry I didn't know Jesus whom Christianty is based on was a Roman Christian. Ha ha ha.

Jesus was a Roman subject, so he was a Roman Christian, technically.

However, Christianity became the Empire's state religion in 380 AD with the Edict of Thessalonki.

 

[Phoenall]

The people of Palestine converted from Christianity to Islam over centuries after the Byzantines were defeated. They practiced Roman religion(s) prior to that.

and some do today of course Monti,Christian Palestinians..steve

Oh I'm sorry I didn't know Jesus whom Christianty is based on was a Roman Christian. Ha ha ha.

Jesus was a Roman subject, so he was a Roman Christian, technically.

However, Christianity became the Empire's state religion in 380 AD with the Edict of Thessalonki.

Now you are being RACIST as he was a Jew and the Romans called him a Jew. No Christianity during his life or for at least 100 years after he died

 

[Roudy]

The people of Palestine converted from Christianity to Islam over centuries after the Byzantines were defeated. They practiced Roman religion(s) prior to that.

and some do today of course Monti,Christian Palestinians..steve

Oh I'm sorry I didn't know Jesus whom Christianty is based on was a Roman Christian. Ha ha ha.

Jesus was a Roman subject, so he was a Roman Christian, technically.

However, Christianity became the Empire's state religion in 380 AD with the Edict of Thessalonki.

There was no Christianity during Jesus' life, nor was Rome a Christian Empire at the time, dipstick. OMG what an ignorant moron. It appears your hatred has driven you totally mad. Ha ha ha.

 

[montelatici]

The people of Palestine converted from Christianity to Islam over centuries after the Byzantines were defeated. They practiced Roman religion(s) prior to that.

and some do today of course Monti,Christian Palestinians..steve

Oh I'm sorry I didn't know Jesus whom Christianty is based on was a Roman Christian. Ha ha ha.

Jesus was a Roman subject, so he was a Roman Christian, technically.

However, Christianity became the Empire's state religion in 380 AD with the Edict of Thessalonki.

Now you are being RACIST as he was a Jew and the Romans called him a Jew. No Christianity during his life or for at least 100 years after he died

He was a Roman subject of the Jewish faith all permanent residents of Roman provinces were Roman subjects. There were all sorts of faiths practiced in the Roman Empire.

 

[Roudy]

The people of Palestine converted from Christianity to Islam over centuries after the Byzantines were defeated. They practiced Roman religion(s) prior to that.

and some do today of course Monti,Christian Palestinians..steve

Oh I'm sorry I didn't know Jesus whom Christianty is based on was a Roman Christian. Ha ha ha.

Jesus was a Roman subject, so he was a Roman Christian, technically.

However, Christianity became the Empire's state religion in 380 AD with the Edict of Thessalonki.

Now you are being RACIST as he was a Jew and the Romans called him a Jew. No Christianity during his life or for at least 100 years after he died

He was a Roman subject of the Jewish faith all permanent residents of Roman provinces were Roman subjects. There were all sorts of faiths practiced in the Roman Empire.

You said Jesus was a Roman Christian, you ignorant orangutang. Jesus was a Jew living in Israel the Jewish holy land, which had been occupied by Romans. Pali Nazi supporters constantly lie about everything and everyone.

 

[montelatici]

If Jesus was the first Christian then he was a Roman Christian by virtue of being a Roman subject. Technically the Romans conquered Judea, not Israel, and made it part of the Empire well before Christ's birth. As Christ said "render onto Caeser" so he knew who was in charge on Earth, anyway.

 

[Challenger]

and some do today of course Monti,Christian Palestinians..steve

Oh I'm sorry I didn't know Jesus whom Christianty is based on was a Roman Christian. Ha ha ha.

Jesus was a Roman subject, so he was a Roman Christian, technically.

However, Christianity became the Empire's state religion in 380 AD with the Edict of Thessalonki.

Now you are being RACIST as he was a Jew and the Romans called him a Jew. No Christianity during his life or for at least 100 years after he died

He was a Roman subject of the Jewish faith all permanent residents of Roman provinces were Roman subjects. There were all sorts of faiths practiced in the Roman Empire.

You said Jesus was a Roman Christian, you ignorant orangutang. Jesus was a Jew living in Israel the Jewish holy land, which had been occupied by Romans. Pali Nazi supporters constantly lie about everything and everyone.

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

 

[montelatici]

Oh I'm sorry I didn't know Jesus whom Christianty is based on was a Roman Christian. Ha ha ha.

Jesus was a Roman subject, so he was a Roman Christian, technically.

However, Christianity became the Empire's state religion in 380 AD with the Edict of Thessalonki.

Now you are being RACIST as he was a Jew and the Romans called him a Jew. No Christianity during his life or for at least 100 years after he died

He was a Roman subject of the Jewish faith all permanent residents of Roman provinces were Roman subjects. There were all sorts of faiths practiced in the Roman Empire.

You said Jesus was a Roman Christian, you ignorant orangutang. Jesus was a Jew living in Israel the Jewish holy land, which had been occupied by Romans. Pali Nazi supporters constantly lie about everything and everyone.

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

 

[Phoenall]

The people of Palestine converted from Christianity to Islam over centuries after the Byzantines were defeated. They practiced Roman religion(s) prior to that.

and some do today of course Monti,Christian Palestinians..steve

Oh I'm sorry I didn't know Jesus whom Christianty is based on was a Roman Christian. Ha ha ha.

Jesus was a Roman subject, so he was a Roman Christian, technically.

However, Christianity became the Empire's state religion in 380 AD with the Edict of Thessalonki.

Now you are being RACIST as he was a Jew and the Romans called him a Jew. No Christianity during his life or for at least 100 years after he died

He was a Roman subject of the Jewish faith all permanent residents of Roman provinces were Roman subjects. There were all sorts of faiths practiced in the Roman Empire.

One of which was Judaism, but never Christianity during the lifetime of Jesus as you claimed in another post

 

[montelatici]

Whatever, some Christians believe Christ was the first Christian. I have no opinion on the subject.

 

[Phoenall]

If Jesus was the first Christian then he was a Roman Christian by virtue of being a Roman subject. Technically the Romans conquered Judea, not Israel, and made it part of the Empire well before Christ's birth. As Christ said "render onto Caeser" so he knew who was in charge on Earth, anyway.

He wasn't he was Jesus an Orthodox Jew so stop bullshitting to get out of the hole you keep digging.

 

[montelatici]

If Jesus was the first Christian then he was a Roman Christian by virtue of being a Roman subject. Technically the Romans conquered Judea, not Israel, and made it part of the Empire well before Christ's birth. As Christ said "render onto Caeser" so he knew who was in charge on Earth, anyway.

He wasn't he was Jesus an Orthodox Jew so stop bullshitting to get out of the hole you keep digging.

No hole, some Christians believe Christ was the first Christian. I have no opinion on the matter. So whether the first Christian or Jew, he was a Roman subject.

 

[Phoenall]

Jesus was a Roman subject, so he was a Roman Christian, technically.

However, Christianity became the Empire's state religion in 380 AD with the Edict of Thessalonki.

Now you are being RACIST as he was a Jew and the Romans called him a Jew. No Christianity during his life or for at least 100 years after he died

He was a Roman subject of the Jewish faith all permanent residents of Roman provinces were Roman subjects. There were all sorts of faiths practiced in the Roman Empire.

You said Jesus was a Roman Christian, you ignorant orangutang. Jesus was a Jew living in Israel the Jewish holy land, which had been occupied by Romans. Pali Nazi supporters constantly lie about everything and everyone.

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

Correct and he was born a JEW. Nothing is known of his life up until he was in his 30's when he became a wandering Rabbi. It is all in the New Testament if you look.

 

[Phoenall]

Whatever, some Christians believe Christ was the first Christian. I have no opinion on the subject.

BULLSHIT you claimed he was the first Christian and was a Roman Christian. You really need to go away for a month or two as you are not making any sense.

 

[Challenger]

Jesus was a Roman subject, so he was a Roman Christian, technically.

However, Christianity became the Empire's state religion in 380 AD with the Edict of Thessalonki.

Now you are being RACIST as he was a Jew and the Romans called him a Jew. No Christianity during his life or for at least 100 years after he died

He was a Roman subject of the Jewish faith all permanent residents of Roman provinces were Roman subjects. There were all sorts of faiths practiced in the Roman Empire.

You said Jesus was a Roman Christian, you ignorant orangutang. Jesus was a Jew living in Israel the Jewish holy land, which had been occupied by Romans. Pali Nazi supporters constantly lie about everything and everyone.

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

OK, but almost immediately after his birth his parents took him to Egypt and later settled in Galilee where he started his "ministry" according to the New Testament Gospels. He may have been born in Judea, but would have been brought up as a Galilean (with maybe some Egyptian influence). Nationality wasn't such a big thing in those days.

 

[Phoenall]

Whatever, some Christians believe Christ was the first Christian. I have no opinion on the subject.

BULLSHIT you claimed he was the first Christian and was a Roman Christian. You really need to go away for a month or two as you are not making any sense.

If Jesus was the first Christian then he was a Roman Christian by virtue of being a Roman subject. Technically the Romans conquered Judea, not Israel, and made it part of the Empire well before Christ's birth. As Christ said "render onto Caeser" so he knew who was in charge on Earth, anyway.

He wasn't he was Jesus an Orthodox Jew so stop bullshitting to get out of the hole you keep digging.

No hole, some Christians believe Christ was the first Christian. I have no opinion on the matter. So whether the first Christian or Jew, he was a Roman subject.

BULLSHIT again freddy You made a statement and now you realise you are wrong so you are trying to wriggle out of the hole you have made. Data mining wont help you one little bit either, it will just get you banned.

 

[Phoenall]

Now you are being RACIST as he was a Jew and the Romans called him a Jew. No Christianity during his life or for at least 100 years after he died

He was a Roman subject of the Jewish faith all permanent residents of Roman provinces were Roman subjects. There were all sorts of faiths practiced in the Roman Empire.

You said Jesus was a Roman Christian, you ignorant orangutang. Jesus was a Jew living in Israel the Jewish holy land, which had been occupied by Romans. Pali Nazi supporters constantly lie about everything and everyone.

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

OK, but almost immediately after his birth his parents took him to Egypt and later settled in Galilee where he started his "ministry" according to the New Testament Gospels. He may have been born in Judea, but would have been brought up as a Galilean (with maybe some Egyptian influence). Nationality wasn't such a big thing in those days.

LINK

 

[montelatici]

The logic becomes fuzzy when applied to other founders of religions.

Bahá'u'lláh was a Muslim before he founded Baha'i. Was he a Muslim or the first Baha'i?
Mohamed was a follower an Abrahamic religion prior to the Koran. Was he of his parent's religion or the first Muslim?
John Smith was a Methodist. Was he the first Mormon?

 

[montelatici]

He was a Roman subject of the Jewish faith all permanent residents of Roman provinces were Roman subjects. There were all sorts of faiths practiced in the Roman Empire.

You said Jesus was a Roman Christian, you ignorant orangutang. Jesus was a Jew living in Israel the Jewish holy land, which had been occupied by Romans. Pali Nazi supporters constantly lie about everything and everyone.

Well....not quite. Jesus, if he existed at all, would have been a Galilean, which at the time was ruled by a hellenistic/hellenized client King and would have spoken Aramaic with a distinct Galilean accent. He would not technically have been a Roman subject for the reason stated above. At the time only Judea and Samaria were under direct Roman rule. Galileans at the time were notoriously lax in their religious observances and were either Pagans or followed a Hellenized form of Judaism/monotheism often at odds with the temple cult in Jerusalem.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea.

OK, but almost immediately after his birth his parents took him to Egypt and later settled in Galilee where he started his "ministry" according to the New Testament Gospels. He may have been born in Judea, but would have been brought up as a Galilean (with maybe some Egyptian influence). Nationality wasn't such a big thing in those days.

LINK

The reason they were in Judea was for the census in Judea. The Romans were great about record keeping, he was surely in the registration books as a Roman subject born in Bethlehem.