Alabama and Mississippi will also honor Robert E. Lee on Martin Luther King Jr. Day

[el midgetron]

Where did I do that you frail little pussy? Let's see the quote. Do you really not understand what a question mark is for? How mentally retarded are you?

I literally screen shot the the post where you “did that”. It was right there below my comment…..

You question was recognized. The problem is it was a question that had already been answered. Remember the “lingering disparity” quote you revisited in post #133, just 6 posts ago? Does a lingering disparity (since segregation for those reading in context) sound as if I claimed that “…at some point Black and White Americans were on par with one another socially and economically…” ?

That fact you are still struggling to catch up with what has been said is ridiculous.

Go back and SLOWLY re-read post #36 and then post #45 and see if you can wrap finally your head around it.

 

[hondo 50]

He was literally a traitor that killed American Servicemen. He had to be pardoned to avoid being hanged.

A reminder: they need to focus on important things and not distractions.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/alabama

Alabama: #44 Healthcare #44 Education #45 Economy #32 Crime #28

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/mississippi

Mississippi#48 Healthcare #50 Education #35 Economy #50 Crime #25

Lee was never pardoned.

 

[hondo 50]

Literally. He literally led forces that intentionally killed US Soldiers. He committed insurrection in a time of war and would have been hung or shot if not pardoned.

Lee was never pardoned. Learn history. Learn proper English.

 

[hondo 50]

What do you think about “Indigenous people day”?

You are wasting your time with these people. They don't know historical facts. They can't even use proper English

 

[Curried Goats]

I literally screen shot the the post where you “did that”. It was right there below my comment…..

You question was recognized. The problem is it was a question that had already been answered. Remember the “lingering disparity” quote you revisited in post #133, just 6 posts ago? Does a lingering disparity (since segregation for those reading in context) sound as if I claimed that “…at some point Black and White Americans were on par with one another socially and economically…” ?

That fact you are still struggling to catch up with what has been said is ridiculous.

Go back and SLOWLY re-read post #36 and then post #45 and see if you can wrap finally your head around it.

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Read that quote again you dipshit. Do you see the part where it says or am the one expecting it to fix itself? And then do you remember going over how segregation and housing discrimination was a thing that has resulted in a 10 to 1 wealth gap and disparity in homeownership? Any of that ringing a bell?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

When 360,000 Union soldier gave their lives to free the slaves.

Who were they fighting? Other whites who were holding them as slaves and btw black folks fought as well.

When white people marched along side their black brothers and sisters in support of Civil Rights. When white men emancipated the slaves and signed into law Civil Rights and the equality of all men.

Well after over 200yrs don't you think it was about time and they still were not treated as equals and then came the next phase of slavery. Jim Crow.

Again, you commies just want to reduce people to the lowest point. There was racism and discrimination in the US. Therefore you claim that no sacrifice, no commitment or dedication can redeem America. We defeated you racists before and we will do it again.

So you think stopping the practice of a wrong is retribution for that wrong. Why do we send a bank robber to prison if he isn't robbing banks anymore?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Lee was never pardoned.

Then that was a missed opportunity. Lets dig him up and hang his corpse.

 

[el midgetron]

Read that quote again you dipshit. Do you see the part where it says or am the one expecting it to fix itself?

FFS So you ignored the part where I argued it’s due to cultural factors? Obviously it’s not going to magically “fix itself”. The black community needs to reject the liberal philosophies that keep it down.

70 years ago the black community was better off in many respects than they are now despite the disadvantage and injustice of segregation. There were far fewer children born out of wedlock, far less dependence on the government, less drug abuse and addiction, less incarceration, less black on black violence. How are all those things worse since the passage of Civil Rights? Is that due to racism too? Are we supposed to believe that America today is more racist and discriminatory than it was under segregation and Jim Crow? No, that’s ridiculous.

An analysis of out-of-wedlock births in the United States

George Akerlof and Janet Yellen look at the decline in shotgun marriages and rise in the births out of wedlock.

www.brookings.edu

African-American family structure - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Why are so many black men in prison?

www.motherjones.com

And then do you remember going over how segregation and housing discrimination was a thing that has resulted in a 10 to 1 wealth gap and disparity in homeownership? Any of that ringing a bell?

Again, you seem unable to comprehend that you and I do not agree on that. I understand that is your position. I have reiterated your position accurately several times. We have already covered your position several times. Over and over, round and round. You are the one who can’t understand that despite understanding your position, I do not agree with it.

You falsely assume disparity equals discrimination. It does not. See my argument above.

Is America more racist and discriminatory today than it was during Jim Crow and segregation?

 

[el midgetron]

Who were they fighting? Other whites who were holding them as slaves and btw black folks fought as well.

Well after over 200yrs don't you think it was about time and they still were not treated as equals and then came the next phase of slavery. Jim Crow.

So you think stopping the practice of a wrong is retribution for that wrong. Why do we send a bank robber to prison if he isn't robbing banks anymore?

Then when are black people going to make amends for the slavery they committed? No one enslaved more black people than black people did. They were the ones stealing them away to sell to white folks during the trans Atlantic slave trade. It was Africans who invented the trans Saharan slave trade and the Indian Ocean slave trade. Black people continuted to enslave black people long after slavery was abolished in the west. Black people were enslaving black people before white people ever did and continued to do so long after white people did. No one enslaved more black people than black people did.

If you want to reduce the sacrifice of 360,000 men because of what other men did, then why don’t you have to carry the cross for the slavery perpetrated by other blacks?

If you were intellectually honest, by your own standards, you would bare more responsibility for the enslavement of black people than any white man would.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Then when are black people going to make amends for the slavery they committed? No one enslaved more black people than black people did. They were the ones stealing them away to sell to white folks during the trans Atlantic slave trade. It was Africans who invented the trans Saharan slave trade and the Indian Ocean slave trade. Black people continuted to enslave black people long after slavery was abolished in the west. Black people were enslaving black people before white people ever did and continued to do so long after white people did. No one enslaved more black people than black people did.

Miss me with that weak ass bullshit, we are talking about America Jack. I haven't seen the history of ONE black slaveship bringing black folks across the Atlantic Ocean into slavery.

If you want to reduce the sacrifice of 360,000 men because of what other men did, then why don’t you have to carry the cross for the slavery perpetrated by other blacks?

If you were intellectually honest, by your own standards, you would bare more responsibility for the enslavement of black people than any white man would.

Your argument is weak, I guess black folks are responsible for Jim Crow segregation, lynching, racism and discrimination as well.

 

[el midgetron]

Miss me with that weak ass bullshit, we are talking about America Jack. I haven't seen the history of ONE black slaveship bringing black folks across the Atlantic Ocean into slavery.

Your argument is weak, I guess black folks are responsible for Jim Crow segregation, lynching, racism and discrimination as well.

It’s just your black guilt getting the best of you.

Think about this. Your ancestors were sold into slavery by black people. White men bought them and brought them to America. Their decedents, like you, inherited both the best standard of living black people enjoy anywhere in the world. And you also apparently get to deny any responsibility for the thousands of years black people were selling black people into slavery. That’s a pretty good deal.

And yet you are free to blame “white people” who sacrificed 360,000 of their sons to end slavery as still baring responsibility for slavery. Even though 360k is nearly equal to the number of people who owned slaves in the US. Most white people were not involved in slavery is any form. Despite the fact that these innocent white people not only advocated, fought for and gave their lives to free the slaves, your racist ass argues all white people owe you a debt. That’s black entitlement.

Name a place where black people have a better standard of living than in America and support your answer.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

It’s just your black guilt getting the best of you.

That's funny coming from a white racist, you don't feel guilty about any of the atrocities you have caused.

Think about this. Your ancestors were sold into slavery by black people.

Damn who told us that? White men.

White men bought them and brought them to America.

You mean the good God fearin white men.

Their decedents, like you, inherited both the best standard of living black people enjoy anywhere in the world. And you also apparently get to deny any responsibility for the thousands of years black people were selling black people into slavery. That’s a pretty good deal.

I wish your punk ass could be a slave for a couple of years then you could come back and tell us how great of a standard of living it was.

And yet you are free to blame “white people” who sacrificed 360,000 of their sons to end slavery as still baring responsibility for slavery. Even though 360k is nearly equal to the number of people who owned slaves in the US. Most white people were not involved in slavery is any form. Despite the fact that these innocent white people not only advocated, fought for and gave their lives to free the slaves, your racist ass argues all white people owe you a debt. That’s black entitlement.

Save that racist stupidity. White folks benefitted from slavery whether they owned slaves or not, WTF do you think the overseers were, the slave patrols were. I never claimed white folks owe me a debt, I said America owes here citizens of color a debt. When did America pay restitution to black folks for the 400yrs of injustice she bestowed upon us? Why is it that racist only whine when it comes to black folks being paid reparations?

I didn't hear a peep out of you when Japanese Americans, Eskimos, Native Americans, Pacific Islanders, etc. were given reparations. America has given Israel over 246 billion dollars since WWII and I don't hear none of you racist ass clowns whine about that. Black Americans have split blood in every war America has ever had.

Name a place where black people have a better standard of living than in America and support your answer.

Why do I need to when black folks have played a significant role in making that standard of living in America.

 

[el midgetron]

That's funny coming from a white racist, you don't feel guilty about any of the atrocities you have caused.

That’s the whole point. I have never caused any “atrocities”. My ancestors never owned slaves. You are just a bigot who judges white people by the color of their skin, just like Ibram X Kendi tells you to.

You mean the good God fearin white men.

Who bought them from Godless savages.

I wish your punk ass could be a slave for a couple of years then you could come back and tell us how great of a standard of living it was.

I never claimed that. Do all you woke dip-shits have learning disabilities? I said YOU TODAY enjoy living in the country where blacks have the highest quality of life on the planet.

Save that racist stupidity. White folks benefitted from slavery whether they owned slaves or not, WTF do you think the overseers were, the slave patrols were.

LOL, you benefitted from slavery more than I ever did. If it wasn’t for slavery, you would be likely living in some mud hut in Africa. My ancestors never owned slaves, never lived in the southern states, never participated in anything even remotely connected to the slave industry.

All I ever got from slavery was woke racist bitches telling me how much I benefitted from it based solely on the color skin.

It’s totally indisputable. You benefitted far more from slavery than the vast majority of white people in America TODAY.

I never claimed white folks owe me a debt, I said America owes here citizens of color a debt. When did America pay restitution to black folks for the 400yrs of injustice she bestowed upon us? Why is it that racist only whine when it comes to black folks being paid reparations?

Nope. You are welcome to argue that the decendents of slaves are owned something. But you can stick this racist “people of color” shit up your butt. There are plenty of “people of color” living here who have NO connection to slavery. You just push this dichotomy because you are a retarded racist. There are also “people of color” who owned slaves. Native Americans practiced slavery for thousands of years before the white people showed up. And then they were happy to own black slaves. The Native Americans took their black slaves with them on the trail of tears. The last black slaves were not freed on “Juneteenth” but a year later when the WHITE MAN finally convinced the Indians to free their black slaves. People of color were the last people to own black slaves in America.

All your “people of color” are owed a “debt” crap is just your anti-white racism.

Why do I need to when black folks have played a significant role in making that standard of living in America.

Right, all that slavery was such a powerful economic force that the Confederacy got its ass handed to it by the slave-free Union.

You can’t name a place where blacks have a better standard of living cause there isn’t one. So you “we-wuz-kangz” that standard of living.

 

[cnm]

Are you arguing that at some point Black and White Americans were on par with one another socially and economically and Black culture messed it up?

Did you say this?

That doesn’t change what DEI and affirmative action are intended to do. You tell me why black people are included in those programs.

“….or otherwise helping those who have been wronged.”

DEI and affirmative action are intended to address economic disparities by providing opportunities to “marginalized” groups.

Are you saying Blacks haven't been wronged or marginalised?

 

[cnm]

That’s the whole point. I have never caused any “atrocities”.

Did you vote for Dubya and his Iraq atrocities?

That's rhetorical. I can't be bothered with excusers of institutional racism.

 

[el midgetron]

Did you say this?

If that question was for me, the answer is NO. That’s Curried Goats half-baked illiterate BS. Read the thread, I never claimed that. He’s either delusional or just dishonest.

Are you saying Blacks haven't been wronged or marginalised?

No. How do you guys come up with this stuff?

I was asking Superbadbrother that to illustrate that programs like affirmative action and DEI are because blacks have been wronged and marginalized. The same argument used to support reparations. Affirmative action and DEI are forms of reparations. I provided additional context and support for that claim.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

That’s the whole point. I have never caused any “atrocities”. My ancestors never owned slaves. You are just a bigot who judges white people by the color of their skin, just like Ibram X Kendi tells you to.

Yea I know all the white folks who owned slaves, raped, tortured, beat, lynched and murdered them all dead. Miss me with that bullshit, black folks are the ones who have been judged by the color of our skin. It's amazing how racist try to change the narrative.

Who bought them from Godless savages.

Wasn't it Godless savages that bought them.

I never claimed that. Do all you woke dip-shits have learning disabilities? I said YOU TODAY enjoy living in the country where blacks have the highest quality of life on the planet.

Yep dumbass and I said we played a huge role in creating that standard.

LOL, you benefitted from slavery more than I ever did. If it wasn’t for slavery, you would be likely living in some mud hut in Africa. My ancestors never owned slaves, never lived in the southern states, never participated in anything even remotely connected to the slave industry.

See this is a prime example of an ignorant, racist white boy.

All I ever got from slavery was woke racist bitches telling me how much I benefitted from it based solely on the color skin.

It’s totally indisputable. You benefitted far more from slavery than the vast majority of white people in America TODAY.

More racist propaganda from an ignorant racist.

Nope. You are welcome to argue that the decendents of slaves are owned something. But you can stick this racist “people of color” shit up your butt. There are plenty of “people of color” living here who have NO connection to slavery. You just push this dichotomy because you are a retarded racist. There are also “people of color” who owned slaves. Native Americans practiced slavery for thousands of years before the white people showed up. And then they were happy to own black slaves. The Native Americans took their black slaves with them on the trail of tears. The last black slaves were not freed on “Juneteenth” but a year later when the WHITE MAN finally convinced the Indians to free their black slaves. People of color were the last people to own black slaves in America.

Finally convinced the Indians to free the slaves? Here is another example of a white racist telling us His-story instead of History.

All your “people of color” are owed a “debt” crap is just your anti-white racism.

So, tell me white racist man when black folks were paid restitution for slavery or Jim Crow Segregation.

Right, all that slavery was such a powerful economic force that the Confederacy got its ass handed to it by the slave-free Union.

You can’t name a place where blacks have a better standard of living cause there isn’t one. So you “we-wuz-kangz” that standard of living.

I didn't hear that weak ass argument when America was giving reparations to Japanese Americans, Native Americans, Pacific Islanders, Eskimos, etc.

America has given Israel over 246 billion dollars since World War II, I have never heard white racist like you whine about that.

Why does it change when it comes to black folks in America?

 

[el midgetron]

Did you vote for Dubya and his Iraq atrocities?

No.

That's rhetorical. I can't be bothered with excusers of institutional racism.

Really? Did you vote for Obama?

 

[Curried Goats]

FFS So you ignored the part where I argued it’s due to cultural factors? Obviously it’s not going to magically “fix itself”. The black community needs to reject the liberal philosophies that keep it down.

70 years ago the black community was better off in many respects than they are now despite the disadvantage and injustice of segregation. There were far fewer children born out of wedlock, far less dependence on the government, less drug abuse and addiction, less incarceration, less black on black violence. How are all those things worse since the passage of Civil Rights? Is that due to racism too? Are we supposed to believe that America today is more racist and discriminatory than it was under segregation and Jim Crow? No, that’s ridiculous.

An analysis of out-of-wedlock births in the United States

George Akerlof and Janet Yellen look at the decline in shotgun marriages and rise in the births out of wedlock.

www.brookings.edu

African-American family structure - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Why are so many black men in prison?

www.motherjones.com

Again, you seem unable to comprehend that you and I do not agree on that. I understand that is your position. I have reiterated your position accurately several times. We have already covered your position several times. Over and over, round and round. You are the one who can’t understand that despite understanding your position, I do not agree with it.

You falsely assume disparity equals discrimination. It does not. See my argument above.

Is America more racist and discriminatory today than it was during Jim Crow and segregation?

I in fact mentioned and quoted you saying it was black culture and then you acted like a little bitch about it. Now that you found your courage again how about something as evidence other than your fucking feelings my guy. See I provided evidence of economic disenfranchisment and what lead to a 10 to 1 wealth disparity and disparity in home ownership. Given those inequities why the fuck would you think the Black American community would produce the same outcomes as a community with ten times the resources? And why do you think Black people working harder is going to alleviate this inequity when it wasn't a lack of hard work that engineered it? It was racist policies. Also, before you mention your own links it's clear that you didn't even read them. Here's a little from the first one.

An analysis of out-of-wedlock births in the United States

Efforts by social scientists to explain the rise in out-of-wedlock births have so far been unconvincing, though several theories have a wide popular following. One argument that appeals to conservatives is that of Charles Murray, who attributes the increase to overly generous federal welfare benefits. But as David Ellwood and Lawrence Summers have shown, welfare benefits could not have played a major role in the rise of out-of-wedlock births because benefits rose sharply in the 1960s and then fell in the 1970s and 1980s, when out-of-wedlock births rose most. A study by Robert Moffitt in 1992 also found that welfare benefits can account for only a small fraction of the rise in the out-of-wedlock birth ratio.

 

[el midgetron]

Finally convinced the Indians to free the slaves? Here is another example of a white racist telling us His-story instead of History.

It’s not my fault you were education on the Democrat plantation.

“Before the Civil War, the Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek, and Seminole tribes held approximately 10,000 people of African descent in bondage. Because those slaves belonged to Native Americans and not American citizens, the 13th Amendment did not free them.

The Cherokee National Government voluntarily freed its slaves in 1863. The United States negotiated a treaty with the other four tribes in 1866 stipulating that they must release their slaves and grant them full rights as citizens. If they failed to comply with those terms they would forfeit payment for lands ceded to the United States by the same treaty. Few of the slaves freed by Native American tribes were ever accepted as citizens of their tribes.”

Slavery in Indian Territory, 1869 | Records of Rights

Before the Civil War, the Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek, and Seminole tribes held approximately 10,000 people of African descent in bondage. Because those slaves belonged to Native Americans and not American citizens, the 13th Amendment did not free them. The Cherokee National Government...

recordsofrights.org

So, tell me white racist man when black folks were paid restitution for slavery or Jim Crow Segregation.

You were given free time travel from the prehistoric Stone Age to the 20th century. Welcome to the future.

Answer yes or no. Do you believe you are worse off today that you would be if slavery in the US never happened?