Agree? "If Putin is allowed to succeed in Ukraine, that threatens all of us." - UK's Ambassador to the U.S.

[AZrailwhale]

Really? Do you really believe that Putin personally write military plans?



Are you banned in google?
It's Heavy Vehicles Factory (HVF) in Avadi near Chennai.

Indian Army’s First Upgraded T-90 Bhishma Mk-3 Tank Enters Service

Indian Army’s First Upgraded T-90 Bhishma Mk-3 Tank Enters Service

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They aren’t new tanks, they are refurbed Russian built T-90s that use licensed western and Indian- designed components to replace the third rate Russian ones. The only thing left from the Russian builds are the hull, ERA and main gun. Oh and India has produced exactly ONE Bishma Mk3 so far.

India’s experience with Russian tanks, aircraft and ships has been universally bad.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They aren’t new tanks, they are refurbed Russian built T-90s that use licensed western and Indian- designed components to replace the third rate Russian ones. The only thing left from the Russian builds are the hull, ERA and main gun. Oh and India has produced exactly ONE Bishma Mk3 so far.

India’s experience with Russian tanks, aircraft and ships has been universally bad.

Putin could have won in 3 weeks.
He's been dragging it out for almost 3 years now, on purpose.
LOL!

 

[AZrailwhale]

Putin could have won in 3 weeks.
He's been dragging it out for almost 3 years now, on purpose.
LOL!

If you remember, his entire logistics train was stalled by the disintegration of the cheap Chinese tires on the trucks. His armor was road-bound and his infantry dragged their feet. He had a bad plan that was horribly executed. He hung his airborne units out to dry like the Brits did in Market-Garden in 1944 and lost most of them. No Putin actually did intend to conquer all of Ukraine in three weeks. He was counting on the Ukrainian military to be as inept it was in 2014 and for its president to flee the country like the previous, pro- Russian one did when the legislature decided it didn’t want to go back to being a Russian client state like in the bad old days of the Warsaw Pact.

 

[Zavulon]

Kim is not stupid enough to use nukes.

Kim is smart enough to understand that nukes (and his determiness to use them) is the only thing that stays between DPRK and the fate of Iraq. DPRK will use nukes if necessary.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Kim is smart enough to understand that nukes (and his determiness to use them) is the only thing that stay between DPRK and the fate of Iraq. DPRK will use nukes if necessary.

No he understands that HAVING nukes but not using them prevents him being overthrown by outside forces. Like the military leaders of your country, he knows that the instant he uses a nuke his country is toast. His situation is like Israel’s, the nukes are an insurance policy”; MAD on a small scale.

 

[Zavulon]

No he understands that HAVING nukes but not using them prevents him being overthrown by outside forces.

Having nukes doesn't mean anything without readiness to actually use them if necessary.

Like the military leaders of your country, he knows that the instant he uses a nuke his country is toast. His situation is like Israel’s, the nukes are an insurance policy”; MAD on a small scale.

There is no MAD (M for Mutual) between DPRK and the USA. DPRK can't "destroy" the USA in any meaningful sense. It is "Minimal Deterrence" here. If the USA invade - he nuke them (he knows it and they know it). There is, say, 50% chance of destruction of few American cities. And while destruction of, say, Los-Angeles doesn't mean destruction of the USA, its the price that the current US leadership definitely isn't ready to pay for capturing DPRK.

 

[Zavulon]

You are so typically Russian it’s not funny. Every Russian tanker is valuable, the more so because hostilities-trained tank crews are far less capable than peacetime ones.

Man, Russia have consript Army, and it means that there are at least ten peacetime trained tank crews for every old tank.

You, Putin and Stalin all had the same attitude, if you have a problem drown it in Russian blood.

Its not just about Putin and Stalin (it was correct for other Russian leaders, too). The very nature of our "problem" - aggression of genocidal, numerically, economically and partly technologically superior Western Barbarians doesn't leave us any other option.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Having nukes doesn't mean anything without readiness to actually use them if necessary.


There is no MAD (M for Mutual) between DPRK and the USA. DPRK can't "destroy" the USA in any meaningful sense. It is "Minimal Deterrence" here. If the USA invade - he nuke them (he knows it and they know it). There is, say, 50% chance of destruction of few American cities. And while destruction of, say, Los-Angeles doesn't mean destruction of the USA, its the price that the current US leadership definitely isn't ready to pay for capturing DPRK.

Of course not, but some of Kim’s missiles can now range West coast cities as well as Korean and Japanese cities. But we never invaded North Korea before the Kim’s had nukes except to repel the North Korean invasion of South Korea. In retrospect we should never have allowed fear of China to establish the 38th parallel as a demarcation point. We should have pushed the Chinese back to the Yalu River and reunited the Koreas. It would have saved many lives and much treasure,

 

[AZrailwhale]

Man, Russia have consript Army, and it means that there are at least ten peacetime trained tank crews for every old tank.



Its not just about Putin and Stalin (it was correct for other Russian leaders, too). The very nature of our "problem" - aggression of genocidal, numerically, economically and partly technologically superior Western Barbarians doesn't leave us any other option.

So Russian lives are not valuable. But putting superannuated crews in old tanks is a waste of tanks and manpower. It would be as stupid as handing me a tool kit and expecting me to perform as a competent EOD tech fifty two years after I last served as one.

 

[Zavulon]

Actually we do know. Their plans show in the planned logistics for the “special operation”. Putin didn’t have either the logistics stockpiles or transportation set up for anything except a very “short and victorious war “. That has been the fallback for tyrants in danger of being overthrown throughout history, unfortunately the wars they started were rarely short or victorious. A good example would be Stalin invading Finland in 1939 the failure of which caused Stalin to gut his military commanders which almost cost him WWII.

Winter war, and moving the borders from Leningrad saved the city in WWII. It was not a failure. It was partial victory. Minimally necessary goals were achieved.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Man, Russia have consript Army, and it means that there are at least ten peacetime trained tank crews for every old tank.



Its not just about Putin and Stalin (it was correct for other Russian leaders, too). The very nature of our "problem" - aggression of genocidal, numerically, economically and partly technologically superior Western Barbarians doesn't leave us any other option.

Your paranoia is the problem, you create your own enemies by your actions,

 

[Zavulon]

Of course not, but some of Kim’s missiles can now range West coast cities as well as Korean and Japanese cities. But we never invaded North Korea before the Kim’s had nukes except to repel the North Korean invasion of South Korea.

You never invaded Iraq and Serbia, before you invaded them the first time, either. Everything is happening in the first time.

In retrospect we should never have allowed fear of China to establish the 38th parallel as a demarcation point. We should have pushed the Chinese back to the Yalu River and reunited the Koreas. It would have saved many lives and much treasure,

Or, more likely, it would become America-China war (if Chinamen were not ready to surrender at Yalu river). And it would cost many more lives.

 

[Zavulon]

Your paranoia is the problem, you create your own enemies by your actions,

Really? I don't think so (may be because I'm a paranoid). But you know what? Every time we are not paranoid about western intentions - we lost millions of human lives.

 

[Zavulon]

So Russian lives are not valuable.

Of course they are valuable. Thats why we are fighting in the first place. But, you know, defeat would cost much more than a victory.

But putting superannuated crews in old tanks is a waste of tanks and manpower.

Its not a waste. Say, ten modernized T-64 may be (in certain circumstances) more useful than one T-90.

It would be as stupid as handing me a tool kit and expecting me to perform as a competent EOD tech fifty two years after I last served as one.

Of course they will give you an opportunity to refresh your memory. May be, you'll ever have luxury of 6 month training camp.

 

[AZrailwhale]

You never invaded Iraq and Serbia, before you invaded them the first time, either. Everything is happening in the first time.


Or, more likely, it would become America-China war (if Chinamen were not ready to surrender at Yalu river). And it would cost many more lives.

China had no ability to project force in 1950. It had a light infantry army that was no match for American firepower. China was no threat and Russia wasn’t much of one. Perhaps ten nukes and knock-off B-29s built by Tupolev as delivery systems.

 

[Arlette]

Putin could have won in 3 weeks.
He's been dragging it out for almost 3 years now, on purpose.
LOL!

Putin will keep the war going until it no longer economically possible to keep on going.

 

[justoffal]

Russia has been and will always be an aggressive empire. The corrupt undercurrent is so strong in Russia, a democracy will never be allowed to survive.

Making a boogeyman out of Russia it's not going to neutralize what NATO has become. A close examination of the history of this region yields The ugly Truth that NATO is no longer just a defensive organization but has now become an expansionist entity interesting provoking warfare for the sake moving its borders Eastward.

 

[Zavulon]

China had no ability to project force in 1950. It had a light infantry army that was no match for American firepower. China was no threat and Russia wasn’t much of one. Perhaps ten nukes and knock-off B-29s built by Tupolev as delivery systems.

But even ten nukes dropped on the American cities was unacceptable price for America in 1950 to pay for occupation of North Korea. And yes, American forces fighting against unending human waves (even of poorly trained and equipped with WWII equipment Chinese volunteers) at the river Yalu (and in other places) - it might be even worse than Vietnam.

 

[Zavulon]

Putin will keep the war going until it no longer economically possible to keep on going.

No. Putin doesn't fight the war just because he loves fighting wars. He will fight the war until mutually acceptable peace terms are achieved.

 

[Ringo]