After 18 years of lies about the wars in the Middle East

[the other mike]

Technically, Afghanistan is considered to be part of SE Asia, not the Middle East, but
it's close enough being that it borders Iraq and Iran.

Top officials knew the military's chances were slim but that they routinely hid the grave reality and made 'rosy pronouncements' about it instead.

The cache of documents - dubbed the 'Pentagon Papers of Afghanistan' - includes interviews that the government carried out with senior military personnel which the newspaper obtained through a Freedom of Information request. They took place between 2014 and 2018 and contain the comments of nearly 400 people.

In addition to the interview transcripts, the Post obtained memos dictated by former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld between 2001 and 2006, during the first phase of the war.

Together, they paint a picture of a confused military who did not know who the 'bad guys' were, let alone where to find them or how to defeat them.

Among the interviews is a 2015 transcript of one in which Michael Flynn, former United States National Security Advisor, said: 'If we are doing such a great job, why does it feel like we are losing?'

The military personnel also describe how top brass officials distorted data to make it appear as though the US was winning when in fact thousands were being needlessly killed.

U.S. officials hid fact Afghanistan war 'unwinnable' for 18 years | Daily Mail Online



So isn't it about time to find out what else they've been lying to us about ?

 

[Bleipriester]

That´s easy. If they talk - they lie.

 

[the other mike]

There must be some reason we're there...

Rare Earth: Afghanistan Sits on $1 Trillion in Minerals

War Has Made Afghanistan's $1 Trillion in Minerals Worthless | JSTOR Daily

 

[sparky]

.....~S~

 

[basquebromance]

"the Taliban wanted to negotiate. America, in its hubris, refused" - Crazy Chris Hedges

"this is a load of bullshit!" - Sexy Spenser Rapone

 

[the other mike]

Looks like our leaders just decided not to break precedent, since
"Killing is our business, and business is good."
Military spending: 20 companies profiting the most from war

 

[basquebromance]

who wants to die for Donald fucking Trump?

 

[the other mike]

who wants to die for Donald fucking Trump?

You only get one guess.

 

[basquebromance]

America gave more money on Afghanistan than it gave to the Marshall Plan

that's absurd, my friends!

 

[the other mike]

America gave more money on Afghanistan than it gave to the Marshall Plan

that's absurd, my friends!

I'll give you one on Trump....he hasn't changed much about his foreign policy
ideas. He was saying we should have taken Iran's oil over the hostage thing 40 years ago.

@ 1:00

 

[the other mike]

Speaking of traitors....this guy should be in Guantanamo,
and his friend John Brennan too.

"A true American patriot ..." to gut wrenchingly pathetic applause from his couch potato zombie so-called 'liberal' audience.. .. .. ..

 

[Dekster]

Meh, you would be tough to find anybody who interacted regularly with locals on the ground say they think we could ever win hearts and minds in these places.

 

[the other mike]

Meh, you would be tough to find anybody who interacted regularly with locals on the ground say they think we could ever win hearts and minds in these places.

If you're a US soldier visiting another country, your bad reputation precedes you ?
Now there's an understatement.

 

[the other mike]

Maybe it's a mining operation now.

 

[pknopp]

Meh, you would be tough to find anybody who interacted regularly with locals on the ground say they think we could ever win hearts and minds in these places.

Would we welcome anyone that invaded us? Why would we expect them to be any different?

 

[Manonthestreet]

Anytime Trump makes a peep about just starting to get out of anywhere...all hell breaks loose......blame yourselves

 

[Correll]

That really looks like South EAST Asia to you?

 

[pknopp]

Anytime Trump makes a peep about just starting to get out of anywhere...all hell breaks loose......blame yourselves

The (D)'s have guaranteed we aren't leaving. One can never tell when Trump is lying but their are too many (R)'s that want to continue the useless wars. There are also far too many (D)'s but they would vote to impeach anyway.

Now Trump is going to have to stay to make sure the (R)'s stay on his side. If he bails, a lot of them bail on him.

 

[Correll]

Anytime Trump makes a peep about just starting to get out of anywhere...all hell breaks loose......blame yourselves

The (D)'s have guaranteed we aren't leaving. One can never tell when Trump is lying but their are too many (R)'s that want to continue the useless wars. There are also far too many (D)'s but they would vote to impeach anyway.

Now Trump is going to have to stay to make sure the (R)'s stay on his side. If he bails, a lot of them bail on him.

If Impeachment had not been happening, and the Ds were sane, and would support Trump is leaving,


it could have happened. A chance at peace was shitcanned, for partisan political advantage.

 

[pknopp]

Anytime Trump makes a peep about just starting to get out of anywhere...all hell breaks loose......blame yourselves

The (D)'s have guaranteed we aren't leaving. One can never tell when Trump is lying but their are too many (R)'s that want to continue the useless wars. There are also far too many (D)'s but they would vote to impeach anyway.

Now Trump is going to have to stay to make sure the (R)'s stay on his side. If he bails, a lot of them bail on him.

If Impeachment had not been happening, and the Ds were sane, and would support Trump is leaving,


it could have happened. A chance at peace was shitcanned, for partisan political advantage.

Trump could have lived up to his word on Syria.