Active shooter Manhattan.

[Delldude]

A friend “ Straw Purchased “ the AR15 Lower Receiver for the Shooter ( Controlled part that needs BGC ) and said friend should get 5 years in Federal Prison

Accomplice to murder for sure.

 

[Failzero]

Accomplice to murder for sure.

Federal Crime lie on 4473 form

 

[sealybobo]

A private citizen with a family was murdered......there is nothing to be happy about.

So you care about people who are in the deep state? You care about globalists?

And I think you meant a private US citizen, right? Because many private citizens are being murdered in GAZA do you care?

 

[drudge X]

That was quick and expected. This story fell off the front page already.

 

[sealybobo]

That was quick and expected. This story fell off the front page already.

Not on Huffpo

Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) joined Fox News on Monday to dismiss the idea of legislation aimed at preventing gun violence, just hours after a gunman killed four people in an office building in New York City’s Midtown Manhattan neighborhood.

Kennedy told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that “all you can do in a time like this is be sorry” for the victims of the mass shooting before predicting that some of his colleagues will call for more gun control laws on Tuesday morning.

GOP Senator Roasted Over This 'Idiot' Take On Manhattan Mass Shooting

Social media critics reminded Sen. John Kennedy exactly how he could respond to such violence.

www.huffpost.com

In his three-page note, Tamura said he had chronic traumatic encephalopathy, blaming the NFL for his condition and requesting that his brain be studied, police sources told HuffPost. The condition can only be diagnosed upon death, and has been found in a relatively high percentage of former NFL players who were subjected to repeated head trauma.

NYC Gunman Reportedly Left Note Blaming Specific Factor For His Mental Illness

The suspect's message at the scene may have provided a motive for his attack that killed four at a Park Avenue office building.

www.huffpost.com

 

[marvin martian]

We've all become immune to the violence.

And who's in charge of the House, Senate and White House? Republicans are? So why would we waste our time when we know they'll never pass common sense gun legislation?

If we were like Republicans we would be screaming GUN LEGISLATION and we would put this gun violence on Republicans.

Gun violence in the US continues to be a significant issue in 2025. While some cities have seen a decrease in violent crime, including gun violence, the overall numbers remain concerning. Mass shootings, homicides, and unintentional shootings, as well as injuries and deaths among children and teens, continue to occur.
Key Statistics (as of July 29, 2025):

• Homicides/Murders/Unintentional Shootings: 8,591
• Total Injuries: 15,711
• Mass Shootings: 253
• 
  
• • Children (0-11) Killed: 131
  • Children (0-11) Injured: 285
  • Teens (12-17) Killed: 607
  • Teens (12-17) Injured: 1,682
  You don't care we know

^^^Says the guy who cheered when Hunter Biden got away with illegally buying a handgun.

 

[Delldude]

So you care about people who are in the deep state?

You said there is no thing called the deep state. I have to take your educated word on it...............

Because many private citizens are being murdered in GAZA do you care?

Private citizen members of Hamas?

 

[DonGlock26]

 

[Foolardi]

Not too shockingly a confused lifer Dimocrat.
Can't fathom how the Democrat party fell so hard.
I doubt she was ever informed that Republicans buy
tennis shoes,as well.

 

[Foolardi]

Not on Huffpo

Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) joined Fox News on Monday to dismiss the idea of legislation aimed at preventing gun violence, just hours after a gunman killed four people in an office building in New York City’s Midtown Manhattan neighborhood.

Kennedy told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that “all you can do in a time like this is be sorry” for the victims of the mass shooting before predicting that some of his colleagues will call for more gun control laws on Tuesday morning.

GOP Senator Roasted Over This 'Idiot' Take On Manhattan Mass Shooting

Social media critics reminded Sen. John Kennedy exactly how he could respond to such violence.

www.huffpost.com

In his three-page note, Tamura said he had chronic traumatic encephalopathy, blaming the NFL for his condition and requesting that his brain be studied, police sources told HuffPost. The condition can only be diagnosed upon death, and has been found in a relatively high percentage of former NFL players who were subjected to repeated head trauma.

NYC Gunman Reportedly Left Note Blaming Specific Factor For His Mental Illness

The suspect's message at the scene may have provided a motive for his attack that killed four at a Park Avenue office building.

www.huffpost.com

Geez Louise ... and I was under the impression that he was
wearing a jock strap 3 sizes too small.

 

[2aguy]

We've all become immune to the violence.

And who's in charge of the House, Senate and White House? Republicans are? So why would we waste our time when we know they'll never pass common sense gun legislation?

If we were like Republicans we would be screaming GUN LEGISLATION and we would put this gun violence on Republicans.

Gun violence in the US continues to be a significant issue in 2025. While some cities have seen a decrease in violent crime, including gun violence, the overall numbers remain concerning. Mass shootings, homicides, and unintentional shootings, as well as injuries and deaths among children and teens, continue to occur.
Key Statistics (as of July 29, 2025):

• Homicides/Murders/Unintentional Shootings: 8,591
• Total Injuries: 15,711
• Mass Shootings: 253
• 
  
• • Children (0-11) Killed: 131
  • Children (0-11) Injured: 285
  • Teens (12-17) Killed: 607
  • Teens (12-17) Injured: 1,682
  You don't care we know

The majority of gun deaths are murders....the majority of murders are committed by 7% of the population, in democrat party controlled cities.....

there were not 253 mass shootings ......in 2024 there were 2.......

The "children" killed by guns....are generally gang members doing work for their gangs, defending drug turf, or shooting rival gang members for shits and giggles......

Meanwhile....Americans use their legal guns to save far more lives.......

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

2021 national firearm survey, Prof. William English, PhD. designed by Deborah Azrael of Harvard T. Chan School of public policy, and Mathew Miller, Northeastern university.......1.67 million defensive uses annually.

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

2021 national firearms survey..

The survey was designed by Deborah Azrael of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Matthew Miller of Northeastern University,

----

The survey further finds that approximately a third of gun owners (31.1%) have used a firearm to defend themselves or their property, often on more than one occasion, and it estimates that guns are used defensively by firearms owners in approximately 1.67 million incidents per year. Handguns are the most common firearm employed for self-defense (used in 65.9% of defensive incidents), and in most defensive incidents (81.9%) no shot was fired. Approximately a quarter (25.2%) of defensive incidents occurred within the gun owner's home, and approximately half (53.9%) occurred outside their home, but on their property. About one out of ten (9.1%) defensive gun uses occurred in public, and about one out of twenty (4.8%) occurred at work.

2021 National Firearms Survey

 

[2aguy]

We've all become immune to the violence.

And who's in charge of the House, Senate and White House? Republicans are? So why would we waste our time when we know they'll never pass common sense gun legislation?

If we were like Republicans we would be screaming GUN LEGISLATION and we would put this gun violence on Republicans.

Gun violence in the US continues to be a significant issue in 2025. While some cities have seen a decrease in violent crime, including gun violence, the overall numbers remain concerning. Mass shootings, homicides, and unintentional shootings, as well as injuries and deaths among children and teens, continue to occur.
Key Statistics (as of July 29, 2025):

• Homicides/Murders/Unintentional Shootings: 8,591
• Total Injuries: 15,711
• Mass Shootings: 253
• 
  
• • Children (0-11) Killed: 131
  • Children (0-11) Injured: 285
  • Teens (12-17) Killed: 607
  • Teens (12-17) Injured: 1,682
  You don't care we know

Gun savings each year...

Annual Defensive Gun Use Savings Dwarf Study's "Gun Violence" Costs - The Truth About Guns

Our man Bruce Krafft — whose posts we dearly miss — did the math back in 2012. Here it is:

Our fearless leader suggested that I take a look at the flip side of the anti’s latest attack on our freedoms (a recycled strategy from the Clinton-era Public Health model of gun control): the monetary cost of gun violence.

For example, the Center for American Progress touted the “fact” that the Virginia Tech massacre cost taxpayers $48.2 million (including autopsy costs and a fine against Virginia Tech for failing to get their skates on when the killer started shooting).

It’s one of the antis’ favorite tricks: cost benefit analysis omitting the benefit side of the equation. So what are the financial benefits of firearm ownership to society? Read on . . .

In my post Dennis Henigan on Chardon: Clockwork Edition, I did an analysis of how many lives were saved annually in Defensive Gun Uses (DGUs). I used extremely conservative numbers. Now I am going to use some less conservative ones.

The Kleck-Gertz DGU study estimated that there are between 2.1 and 2.5 million DGUs a year in the U.S. The Ludwig-Cook study came up with 1.46 million. So let’s split the difference and call it 1.88 million DGUs per year.

In the K-G article Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun, 15.7 percent of people who had a DGU reckoned they almost certainly saved a life. Ignoring the ‘probably’ and ‘might have’ saved a life categories for simplicity, 15.7 percent of 1.88 million gives us 295,160 lives saved annually.

[NB: A number of people have questioned the 15.7 percent stat. Remember: many states regard the mere act of pulling a gun on someone a form of deadly force. In addition, virtually every jurisdiction in the nation requires that an armed self-defender must be in “reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily harm” before using (or in some places even threatening to use) deadly force.]

How can we get a dollar figure from 1.88 million defensive gun uses per year? Never fear, faithful reader, we can count on the .gov to calculate everything.

According to the AZ state government, in February of 2008 a human life was worth $6.5 million. Going to the Inflation Calculator and punching in the numbers gives us a present value of $6.93 million.

So figuring that the average DGU saves one half of a person’s life—as “gun violence” predominantly affects younger demographics—that gives us $3.465 million per half life.

Putting this all together, we find that the monetary benefit of guns (by way of DGUs) is roughly $1.02 trillion per year. That’s trillion. With a ‘T’.

I was going to go on and calculate the costs of incarceration ($50K/year) saved by people killing 1527 criminals annually, and then look at the lifetime cost to society of an average criminal (something in excess of $1 million). But all of that would be a drop in the bucket compared to the $1,000,000,000,000 ($1T) annual benefit of gun ownership.

When compared to the (inflation adjusted from 2002) $127.5 billion ‘cost’ of gun violence calculated by by our Ludwig-Cook buddies, guns save a little more than eight times what they “cost.”

Which, I might add, is completely irrelevant since “the freedom to own and carry the weapon of your choice is a natural, fundamental, and inalienable human, individual, civil, and Constitutional right — subject neither to the democratic process nor to arguments grounded in social utility.”

So even taking Motherboard’s own total and multiplying it by 100, the benefits to society of civilian gun ownership dwarf the associated costs.

 

[M14 Shooter]

And who's in charge of the House, Senate and White House? Republicans are? So why would we waste our time when we know they'll never pass common sense gun legislation?

There's NO sense - common or otherwise - whatsoever in the unnecessary, ineffective, and unconstitutional restrictions you want to lay on the exercise of the right to keep and bear arms by the law abiding.
Zip.
Zero.
Zilch.
Nada.

 

[sealybobo]

There's NO sense - common or otherwise - whatsoever in the unnecessary, ineffective, and unconstitutional restrictions you want to lay on the exercise of the right to keep and bear arms by the law abiding.
Zip.
Zero.
Zilch.
Nada.

Is America doing it right?

Generally, firearm homicides in Europe occur at a significantly lower rate than in other parts of the world, particularly when compared to countries like the United States. The average firearm homicide rate in the EU is estimated to be around 0.3 per 100,000 population. For context, in 2019, the firearm homicide rate in the United States was 4.11 per 100,000 people, which is 22 times higher than in the European Union.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Is America doing it right?

Your surrender, accepted.

 

[sealybobo]

Your surrender, accepted.

I think I won this debate.

The average firearm homicide rate in the EU is 0.3 per 100,000 population. United States is 4.11 per 100,000 people, which is 22 times higher than in the European Union.

Unless you think more firearm homicides is better.

 

[Delldude]

I think I won this debate.

The average firearm homicide rate in the EU is 0.3 per 100,000 population. United States is 4.11 per 100,000 people, which is 22 times higher than in the European Union.

Unless you think more firearm homicides is better.

EU has outright bans or very high restrictions on gun ownership compared to the US.

You just lost.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I think I won this debate.

Because you lie to yourself.

 

[2aguy]

Is America doing it right?

Generally, firearm homicides in Europe occur at a significantly lower rate than in other parts of the world, particularly when compared to countries like the United States. The average firearm homicide rate in the EU is estimated to be around 0.3 per 100,000 population. For context, in 2019, the firearm homicide rate in the United States was 4.11 per 100,000 people, which is 22 times higher than in the European Union.

Europe has murdered more people than criminals with guns have in the United States....over our entire 249 year history...


Europe...

In the 1920s, they began the process of registering guns....to make their people safer. That was the lie. by the mid 1930s, the socialists in Germany began the process of banning and confiscating guns, and the same for the countries they defeated......using the gun registration lists created in the 1920s....

By 1939, the German socialists began to murder 15 million - 20 million people....in 6 years.....men, women and over 1 million children.

6 years, 15 million- 20 million murdered citizens..not war dead, innocent people rounded up and murdered in camps and forests....

Including 1 million children

15 million in 6 years.

In the United States, gun murder for our entire 247 year history?

Around 2,470,000

Europe.... 15-20 million murdered in 6 years.

U.S..... 2,470,000 murdered in 247 years

How many hundreds of years will it take the U.S. to catch up with the number of Europeans murdered by their governments.....

 

[2aguy]

I think I won this debate.

The average firearm homicide rate in the EU is 0.3 per 100,000 population. United States is 4.11 per 100,000 people, which is 22 times higher than in the European Union.

Unless you think more firearm homicides is better.

You lost the debate, moron.......guns in the hands of private citizens save more lives than are taken by criminals with guns.....it isn't even close...

Both in regard to citizens murdered by criminals, and citizens targeted and murdered by the governments of Europe.....and Europe is working up to another mass slaughter.......

Lives saved....based on research? By law abiding gun owners using guns to stop criminals?



Case Closed: Kleck Is Still Correct



There are roughly 100,000 people shot in the United States yearly, and something over 30,000 die. If this 1/3 vs. 2/3 ratio of deaths to injuries in actual shootings pertains in these DGUs, that makes for at least 176,000 lives saved—less some attackers who lost their lives to defenders. This enormous benefit dwarfs, both in human and economic terms, the losses trumpeted by hoplophobes who only choose to see the risk side of the equation.



https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/06/case-closed-kleck-is-still-correct/