Abstinence 'is not realistic,' Palin's daughter says

The primary reason we have abortion is that liberal judges decided to make law themselves, illegally, and legalize the killing of unwanted babies.

Since that red letter day, abortions have steadily increased, child abuse and child murder have increased, poverty and welfare have exploded exponentially, and children are viewed as "punishment" and valueless, particularly if they belong to a large family.

No wonder it's been raining so much in SoCal...Jesus must be crying.

What a splendid example of the "better lives" everyone is supposed to enjoy thanks to the butchery of children.

Southern Cali. What a lovely place. The people are so upstanding, the economy is so great...and gosh, there aren't ANY welfare recipients or abused children there....

Yay, abortion!
 
Only if you make sure the boys involved get their share of the consequences. That is the primary reason we have abortion, guys that won't man up and take responsibility.

nah...they'd rather punish the harlots. :eusa_pray:

And here it is folks...the reason this country is going down the shitter.

people like Jillian actually believe that living with the consequences of your actions is punishment.

After all there should be absolutely no repercussions for any behavior whatsoever. No one is responsible for anything because actually holding someone accountable is tantamount to cruel and unusual punishment.

Pathetic.

PS the little praying emoticon was wrongly used as i am an atheist. One does not need god to see that holding people accountable for their actions is a good thing and not punishment.

do other people get to hold you accountable for your personal actions?
 
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What a splendid example of the "better lives" everyone is supposed to enjoy thanks to the butchery of children.

Southern Cali. What a lovely place. The people are so upstanding, the economy is so great...and gosh, there aren't ANY welfare recipients or abused children there....

Yay, abortion!

Jesus doesn't like it when you say naughty things about Rick Warren. :(
 
That might be true if I had said or implied anything about Rick Warren.

But since you brought him up, here's some food for thought:

"Dr. Rick Warren is passionate about attacking what he calls the five “Global Goliaths” – spiritual emptiness, egocentric leadership, extreme poverty, pandemic disease, and illiteracy/poor education."

Rick Warren

I think he and I are on the same page, so I don't think Jesus is mad at me at all. You might want to take a peek at those global goliaths and see how many you have, and how many you support.
 
Really? Jesus is a pretty angry guy, according to the removed sections of the book of Mark, to say nothing of his anger in a pre-incarnate appearance in the book of Exodus.
 
nah...they'd rather punish the harlots. :eusa_pray:

And here it is folks...the reason this country is going down the shitter.

people like Jillian actually believe that living with the consequences of your actions is punishment.

After all there should be absolutely no repercussions for any behavior whatsoever. No one is responsible for anything because actually holding someone accountable is tantamount to cruel and unusual punishment.

Pathetic.

PS the little praying emoticon was wrongly used as i am an atheist. One does not need god to see that holding people accountable for their actions is a good thing and not punishment.

do other people get to hold you accountable for your personal actions?
Oh my, that was a good question.
 
This is just another topic where the GOP's position is unrealistic/wrong. Gay rights, they are wrong. Free markets where corporations police themselves? Give even more tax breaks to the rich when giving them tax breaks didn't work in the first place? Suggesting that Iraq was going according to plan, or that it was for the good of America (and not just 1% of us)

Newt Gingrich admitted that the GOP's position on Global warming is because they don't want the regulations or taxes that will come with going green. So we know why they lied about that one.

The GOP advocate abstenence only because it is the position that religous right wingers have. Otherwise, even the GOP knows that it doesn't work. But Palin has to promote abstenence only becuse the rapid dogs (pitbulls with lipstick) that vote for her insist.

we were having a nice chat about the sexes and along comes a guy who has to throw ******* politics into it.....
 
Southern Cali. What a lovely place. The people are so upstanding, the economy is so great...and gosh, there aren't ANY welfare recipients or abused children there....

why thank you Ali......just dont let this get out....:eusa_shhh:
 
If you need help to make sex good then you have serious problems....if you need to pay someone 500 bucks an hour to bend over a few times instead of laying on your back, then i would be happy to be your therapist.

Sex is a major part of marriage, I would hate to date someone for years marry them and then realize it was boring to have sex with her.


I guess you are calling my wife a fool because we have good sex

:cuckoo:

No, I'm calling your wife a fool for marrying a man that gets angry if he doesn't have a good lay. Makes one think your wife is faking it just so she doesn't get yelled at.

Getting upset because of one bad time in bed is not what I am talking about you nitwit.

However...15 years of bad sex woul dbe something that one could get upset over..

Apparently, you are bad in bed...so tell you what pay me 300 bucks an hour and I will counsel you and your man

It sure sounded like that's what you were talking about.
 
I thought it was his ex-wife. Regardless, if women can conceal abortions from men, it stands to reason that men can conceal vasectomies from women.
How does that stand to reason? An abortion does not make a woman sterile. A vasectomy does make a man sterile. I personally think a man should not be required by any law to inform or get consent from his wife or anyone else if he wants a vasectomy. Likewise for a woman. Truthfulness in a marriage is up to the partners involved.
 
The consequences remain the same since both means result in an end of a lack of childbirth without the informed knowledge of one's partner.
 
No... it doesn't turn me on... I don't think... er... maybe. :confused:

I was going to do this between just us but since you bring it up and I don't give a ****...

I have made out with a few girls and a few times did um... a little more.

I like the way girls kiss and touch me. But I don't know it's just wrong. I don't know why but I feel so dirty for even doing it beside enjoying it. I was hoping we would talk about it and you could tell me why you think it's ok and I could make some sense of it and rationalize it so I didn't feel the way I do. More than just making out I like boys better. I like the power and strength of a man, I don't know hpow to describe it, it just mke sme breathless. But therewas something about the gentleness of girls that I can't get out of my mind. I don't think it's natural or right and it makes me feel a little sick at the same time but I wish boys could be... I dunno just more like girls with me at first.

I like the way boys smell. Girls semms I don't know artificial to me, cos maybe I know the work they put in but I know how boys are they just ARE so it's like all so real.

I dunno does any of this make sense? It doen't to me. :confused:


Lesbian stories are usually dismissed around here unless you provide some pics.

Dismiss away, I wish it hadn't happened.
 
And here it is folks...the reason this country is going down the shitter.

people like Jillian actually believe that living with the consequences of your actions is punishment.

After all there should be absolutely no repercussions for any behavior whatsoever. No one is responsible for anything because actually holding someone accountable is tantamount to cruel and unusual punishment.

Pathetic.

PS the little praying emoticon was wrongly used as i am an atheist. One does not need god to see that holding people accountable for their actions is a good thing and not punishment.

do other people get to hold you accountable for your personal actions?
Oh my, that was a good question.
why ty!
hahahahaha! Then rep me for it beeeeeeech! :lol: you are the BIG Kahuna!!!
 
Well, the thing is, women that have abortions aren't saying they don't want children...they are just saying they aren't ready. Having a vasectomy or a tubal is saying you don't want children.

So, why the harsh judgment?
 
They are saying they want to kill their babies is what they're saying.
 
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They are saying they want to kill their babies is what they're saying.
In your mind they probably are. But that isn't the reality of the situation

Babble, is it really that difficult for you to put yourself in someone else's shoes?
 
You're an idiot. I've been in those shoes, and I've been with many women when they've been at the abortion clinics.

Women get abortions because they want the baby dead. Period. End of story. That's why they choose abortion over adoption.
 
Embryos shouldn't be frozen in the first place, nimrod.
 
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