About Those J6 “People”

[jacksonlamb]

I'm a 'make sure your brain is engaged before putting your mouth into gear' kinda guy.

Think about it.......

Deep, slow breaths. It will help you.

 

[Alweysrite!]

Epps was a nobody

He never entered the Capitol. He never attacked police

He incited and encouraged people to attack. He must have been paid to be there and do that. Then he received no consequences for what he did, it was all a setup obviously for dumb shits like you.

 

[Delldude]

Deep, slow breaths. It will help you.

You lied.

 

[Robert W]

Do you know what Stuart Rhodes did?

 

[Clipper]

No conviction of rape. It was all political theater. The judge was a stupid Democrat like you. Luckily you are in the minority. The people have seen through this charade. You need to shut your slanderous little mouth.

It was a civil trial, assface. But even if there was a conviction in a criminal trial you'd claim Democrats were out to get him.

Oh, btw. Didga hear that the newfangled Iran "deal" is a crock of shit & Trump was just pulling your finger again, MAGA dupe?

Cry harder.

 

[jacksonlamb]

You lied.

 

[Alweysrite!]

It was a civil trial, assface. But even if there was a conviction in a criminal trial you'd claim Democrats were out to get him.

Oh, btw. Didga hear that the newfangled Iran "deal" is a crock of shit & Trump was just pulling your finger again, MAGA dupe?

Cry harder.

Not a good idea to call someone a rapist who hasnt been convicted of rape. It means you're a liar and a slanderer
Are you still trying to wash that Joe Biden shit off your face? You might as well not, cuz it's not coming off. You stink of it

 

[Robert W]

The judge equated it with rape. What you think does not change reality at all. Sit down.

The Jury declared it was not rape.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Not a good idea to call someone a rapist who hasnt been convicted of rape. It means you're a liar and a slanderer
Are you still trying to wash that Joe Biden shit off your face? You might as well not, cuz it's not coming off. You stink of it

The Judge equated the sexual battery as rape. Are you still trying to wash Trump shit off your face?

 

[Alweysrite!]

The Judge equated the sexual battery as rape. Are you still trying to wash Trump shit off your face?

Crooked Trump hating judge in New York. He shit all over you. What an unbelievable case about what happened 30 years ago with a crazy woman.
I don't think Trump is a rapist, but if you wish hard enough....

 

[jacksonlamb]

Crooked Trump hating judge in New York. He shit all over you. What an unbelievable case about what happened 30 years ago with a crazy woman.
I don't think Trump is a rapist, but if you wish hard enough....

This is why we have courts, so that crooks like Trump and freaks like you are held accountable for your misdeeds.

 

[Alweysrite!]

This is why we have courts, so that crooks like Trump and freaks like you are held accountable for your misdeeds.

It's all political and you have been fooled. Trump is your daddy LOL

 

[Delldude]

The Judge equated the sexual battery as rape.

Equated is not a criminal finding of guilt....... liar.

 

[jacksonlamb]

It's all political and you have been fooled. Trump is your daddy LOL

Says the

 

[jacksonlamb]

Equated is not a criminal finding of guilt....... liar.

It's liability, the civil equivalent of guilt. Sexual battery is sexual battery, and Trump has held liable for it. What a crumb.

 

[Delldude]

It's liability, the civil equivalent of guilt. Sexual battery is sexual battery, and Trump has held liable for it. What a crumb.

Sexual assault was the liability.....not equated rape, liar.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Sexual assault was the liability.....not equated rape, liar.

I don't believe Dell is intentionally lying. I do believe he is simply a very ignorant person.

Did the judge in the E. Jean Carrol suit equate the finding of liability for sexual battery to rape?

Yes. In the E. Jean Carroll civil case, Judge Lewis A. Kaplan explicitly stated that the jury’s finding of liability for sexual abuse (civil battery) was, in ordinary language, equivalent to rape.

Here’s the distinction he made:

• The jury did not find Trump liable for “rape” under New York’s narrow statutory definition, which required forcible penile penetration.
• However, Judge Kaplan later clarified in a written opinion that the jury’s finding “clearly establishes that Mr. Trump raped Ms. Carroll as that term is commonly understood.”

So, while the legal label was “sexual abuse” (a form of civil battery), the judge equated it to rape in the everyday sense — emphasizing that the verdict proved a violent sexual act even if it didn’t meet the statute’s technical wording.

That line appears in E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, Case No. 22‑cv‑10016 (LAK) — specifically in the Memorandum and Order dated February 9, 2024.

You can verify it directly in the court’s docket or in coverage by The New York Times and Reuters, both of which quoted Kaplan’s statement verbatim.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Sexual assault was the liability.....not equated rape, liar.

Not a good idea to call someone a rapist who hasnt been convicted of rape. It means you're a liar and a slanderer
Are you still trying to wash that Joe Biden shit off your face? You might as well not, cuz it's not coming off. You stink of it

I don't believe Dell or alwaysrite are intentionally lying. I do believe they are catergorized simply as very ignorant persons.

Did the judge in the E. Jean Carrol suit equate the finding of liability for sexual battery to rape?

Yes. In the E. Jean Carroll civil case, Judge Lewis A. Kaplan explicitly stated that the jury’s finding of liability for sexual abuse (civil battery) was, in ordinary language, equivalent to rape.

Here’s the distinction he made:

• The jury did not find Trump liable for “rape” under New York’s narrow statutory definition, which required forcible penile penetration.
• However, Judge Kaplan later clarified in a written opinion that the jury’s finding “clearly establishes that Mr. Trump raped Ms. Carroll as that term is commonly understood.”

So, while the legal label was “sexual abuse” (a form of civil battery), the judge equated it to rape in the everyday sense — emphasizing that the verdict proved a violent sexual act even if it didn’t meet the statute’s technical wording.

In Judge Lewis A. Kaplan’s February 2024 opinion denying Donald Trump’s post‑trial motions, he wrote that the jury’s verdict “clearly establishes that Mr. Trump raped Ms. Carroll as that term is commonly understood.”

That line appears in E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, Case No. 22‑cv‑10016 (LAK) — specifically in the Memorandum and Order dated February 9, 2024.

You can verify it directly in the court’s docket or in coverage by The New York Times and Reuters, both of which quoted Kaplan’s statement verbatim.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Ray Epps attempted to incite the crowd. It's all on video, many people went to jail for what he did. He was allowed to do it by whoever was in charge.

Sure, he attempted to. But he failed. And there's no evidence anyone broke into to the Capitol building because of Epps.

On the flip side, you have Trump telling the Proud Boys to stand by because somebody's gotta do something about the left, and on 1/6, you had the Proud Boys among the first to break into the Capitol.

 

[Alweysrite!]

Equated is not a criminal finding of guilt....... liar.

Sure, he attempted to. But he failed. And there's no evidence anyone broke into to the Capitol building because of Epps.

On the flip side, you have Trump telling the Proud Boys to stand by because somebody's gotta do something about the left, and on 1/6, you had the Proud Boys among the first to break into the Capitol.

They let Epps slide because he was working for them.
The cops let a bunch of people in and then prosecuted them. Surreal
The whole thing smells bad to anyone with intelligence who looks into it. I guess it just boils down to what you want to believe and whose side you're on.