About Those J6 “People”

[Mac1958]

Sure there were no entrapment or incitement. It was voluntary, willing insurrection.

They have tried to downplay, deflect and lie about the Insurrection since before the smoke cleared that day. Over five years now.

Good. That shows that they know, that at least they have an ounce of shame. You sure wouldn't be able to tell otherwise.

 

[Correll]

He asked because it matters. The rest of your post is just nonsense.

IN the context of him and his side, fully supporting the POLITICAL ARRESTS of your political enemies,

it does not matter.

He is attempting to bog the discussion down, in meaningless details and meaningless back and forth... shit talk,

to DISTRACT from the point I have successfully made, ie that your side is not hear to discuss IF incitement or entrapment took place,

but to defend it, if it did take place.


Indeed, your behavior strongly indicates that you do believe it took place. Otherwise you would not be trying to derail the discussion.

 

[Correll]

They have tried to downplay, deflect and lie about the Insurrection since before the smoke cleared that day. Over five years now.

Good. That shows that they know, that at least they have an ounce of shame. You sure wouldn't be able to tell otherwise.

It is the leftards in this thread, that are stonewalling and lying to try to hide their true position on the issue.


Not me.


If you were honest, you would admit that.

 

[Marener]

Epps was inciting a riot. Trump was calling for political pressure.

You're ignoring the fact that incitement is exceedingly difficult to prosecute, so it's really not surprising he didn't catch a charge for it.

I can't think of anyone who was prosecuted for incitement in the riot. It's just really hard to prove in a jury trial and rarely if ever gets prosecuted.

I hope that's not the entirety of your "evidence" of your conspiracy.

 

[struth]

And they didn't. But there was no reason for the National Guard to not be mobilized immediately when rioting broke out at the Capitol.

They already were.

 

[struth]

Incite many in that crowd to go inside the Capitol

He never said go inside the Capitol

In fact he said to peacefully and patriotically protest

Moreover folks were already breaching the Capitol before the rally was even over

 

[Correll]

You're ignoring the fact that incitement is exceedingly difficult to prosecute, so it's really not surprising he didn't catch a charge for it.

I can't think of anyone who was prosecuted for incitement in the riot. It's just really hard to prove in a jury trial and rarely if ever gets prosecuted.

I hope that's not the entirety of your "evidence" of your conspiracy.

Well, that's a new one.

The feds were bringing the HAMMER DOWN, on everyone that they could get their grubby little hands on.


"DIFFICULT TO PROSECUTE"?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

They had his face on clear video, adn they didn't even arrest him and hold him for a year without charges while they thought about how hard it would be to prosecute.

Like tehy did with HUNDREDS of others.


DUDE. Show some human decency. Admit it. This guy was clearly given a pass, until it got soo embarassing that they gave him a token slap on the wrist to try to make it go away.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Well, I did actually. But that's not relevant. My point was that you would support incitement and entrapment and I explained how and why I believe that.
AND, I pointed out, correctly, that that is why you lefties where ALL refusing to answer simple questions, becasue you could see that my point was correct.
That is why you got evasive and stonewalled. To not admit that I was right and you are wrong.
Excellent. First you falsely claim that I didnt' give any examples, not that any were needed, and then you give FALSE examples, as two different strawmen.
For a lib, you are arguing fairly well. I bet you were one of the later libs, to stop thinking.

You are the one that supported incitement and encouraged for J6.
You won't be allowed to revise the truth without getting a boot in the mount. Every.Single.Time.

 

[Lesh]

It is the leftards in this thread, that are stonewalling and lying to try to hide their true position on the issue.


Not me.


If you were honest, you would admit that.

Because only you know someone else’s “true position”

Get bent

 

[Correll]

You are the one that supported incitement and encouraged for J6.

False.

You won't be allowed to revise the truth without getting a boot in the mount.

Except, everyone can see that I kicked your asses in this thread. EVERYONE that every reads it, will see that my point was correct. And that you leftards were here, in this thread, to DEFEND the incitement and entrapment, if it did happen. And you th ink that it did.

Every.Single.Time.

You're shit talking. Trying to distract from how I proved my point and you failed to stop me.


It is interesting that you have nowhere to go now. What could you possible say, to move the discussion forward?

 

[Correll]

Because only you know someone else’s “true position”

Get bent

Their refusal to answer simple and easy questions about their own feelings on the issue,


revealed their true position.

IE that they support incitement and entrapment, because they support the political arrests of their political enemies.


That is what the 1/6 issue grew into, very quickly.


That is what it is about now.

 

[Lesh]

Their refusal to answer simple and easy questions about their own feelings on the issue,


revealed their true position.

IE that they support incitement and entrapment, because they support the political arrests of their political enemies.


That is what the 1/6 issue grew into, very quickly.


That is what it is about now.

You get told repeatedly where other posters stand and you simply ignore it or lie about it because it doesn’t fit your warped narrative

 

[sartre play]

You get told repeatedly where other posters stand and you simply ignore it or lie about it because it doesn’t fit your warped narrative

What how and why, will never be explained. Honesty has left our country.
And the average person will be the ones who pay the price.

 

[Marener]

Well, that's a new one.

The feds were bringing the HAMMER DOWN, on everyone that they could get their grubby little hands on.


"DIFFICULT TO PROSECUTE"?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

They had his face on clear video, adn they didn't even arrest him and hold him for a year without charges while they thought about how hard it would be to prosecute.

Like tehy did with HUNDREDS of others.


DUDE. Show some human decency. Admit it. This guy was clearly given a pass, until it got soo embarassing that they gave him a token slap on the wrist to try to make it go away.

Not at all.

Your statement that they brought the "HAMMER DOWN" is a subjective opinion, colored by your politics. It is not fact.

The truth is that the DoJ brought charges that they could sustain at trial, which is what the DoJ regulations require. That's why their conviction rate was so good.

Can you name anyone else charged with incitement? I haven't heard of any because it's very difficult to prosecute. This is a fact that you didn't refute.

It's not a matter of having his statement and face on video. It's a matter of what he said to whom and when.

He never called for anyone to do anything explicitly illegal. That's a huge problem if you want to prosecute incitement.

Perhaps you'd like to try and create a substantive argument instead of argument from incredulity.

 

[theHawk]

At least 33 pardoned insurrectionists face other criminal charges—but many are now going free - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

At least 33 January 6th insurrectionists pardoned by Trump have been rearrested, charged or sentenced for other crimes since January 6, 2021.

www.citizensforethics.org

Child sex crimes

Assault

Weapons charges

Yeah. Pardon em and give em taxpayer money

Way to go Trump

As if assaulting cops and smashing their way into the Capitol wasn’t enough

So if they are convicted of unrelated crimes what does that have to do with J6? Nothing.


Do you want to talk about how many registered Democrats are criminals? The bluest areas, big cities, have the most crime and the most convicted criminals. You have no problem giving black thugs second chances when they are convicted of crimes over and over, but you’ll bellyache over one time offenders at J6.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The 1100 was requested at 1:49. The green light to send them didn't come until 5:08.

And several made requests. The mayor, the Capitol Police, Miller, McCarthy. But oddly enough, the Commander-in-Chief did not.

Why would the Commander in Chief get involved with low level decisions for D.C. security?

 

[Political-Junkie]

Why do you ask? Even if he expressly wrote up a formal request for a violent insurrection, you would support it, if he was an fbi agent inciting a riot so that your political enemies could be arrested.

So, you don't care what he did to incite violence. YOu support him regardless of his exact words or actions.

Why do I ask? I showed you his exact words.

"Tomorrow, we need to go into the Capitol. Into the Capitol. Peacefully. Peacefully. Peacefully. We are freedom. We are peaceful. That’s what its about. It’s not about hurting people."

And I asked you what is violent about that. Instead of answering, you pretend like I would support him "even if he expressly wrote up a formal request for a violent insurrection." Which he didn't do and I would support him had he done so.

So again, I showed his exact words. Either you can explain how that's violent or I accept you can't.

 

[Correll]

You get told repeatedly where other posters stand and you simply ignore it or lie about it because it doesn’t fit your warped narrative

Actually, no I didn't.

I asked the questions and they refused to answer. THey then said OTHER SHIT, about their support of the government vs the rioters,

but they refused to answer my questions.


Which is an answer in of itself.


We can run though it again, if you want, me and you, I can ask you the questions, adn you can choose whether to answer them or not.

And even if you do agree to it, very quickly you will start spamming deflections and changes of subject.

Because teh only defense against my point, would be to deny that you consider the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers to be dangerous and violent and blah, blah, blah.


Which you libs can't do. You HAVE to pretend that they are bad guys. To justify... so much of the evil shit that you have and are doing.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Dude. You don't ******* care about that. By context you can tell it was a REPUBLICAN grandma so you support her arrest.

You are trying to bog the discussion down, in irrelevant details, so as to derail the discussion and to distract from my successfully making the point, that your side's pretense that the FBI inciting or entraping, is "Beyond the pale"


is bullshit and shit talk.

I can't respond to your post if you're not going to let me know who you're talking about. It has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican. It has everything to do with their actions. So who is "grandma?" Answer that and I can respond to your post. If you don't want to answer it, it's because you don't want to hear a reply from me.

 

[Correll]

Not at all.

Your statement that they brought the "HAMMER DOWN" is a subjective opinion, colored by your politics. It is not fact.

The massive investigation, the long term holding of people without charges or trials, to the point that they themselves admitteed they had violated the accused rights, to the stormtrooper tactics of trying to terrorize people into confessions, ect. ect. ect.

no, it is not subjective opinion. If is established and documented historical fact.

The truth is that the DoJ brought charges that they could sustain at trial, which is what the DoJ regulations require. That's why their conviction rate was so good.

Can you name anyone else charged with incitement? I haven't heard of any because it's very difficult to prosecute. This is a fact that you didn't refute.

It's not a matter of having his statement and face on video. It's a matter of what he said to whom and when.

Considering the way that they were tracking down EVERYONE they could find, including peopel that didn't even enter the capitol building,

it IS a matter of them having his face on video, and giving him a pass for over a year, until it got too embarassing. And then they gave him a token.

He never called for anyone to do anything explicitly illegal. That's a huge problem if you want to prosecute incitement.

Perhaps you'd like to try and create a substantive argument instead of argument from incredulity.

perhaps you should have the balls to just take the L on this issue.