About Those J6 “People”

[Correll]

Why do I ask? I showed you his exact words.

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And again you play the same game, trying to bog the discussion down in details.

NOte that I asked you WHY you asked, and you did not answer that question.

You instead state that you showed me his exact words.


That is not a WHY, that is a WHAT.


You are trying to derail the discussion. Because you lefty allies have already lost it.


The point has been made. You lefties are not here to discuss what happened, but to defend the political arrests of your political enemies.

 

[Marener]

The massive investigation, the long term holding of people without charges or trials, to the point that they themselves admitteed they had violated the accused rights, to the stormtrooper tactics of trying to terrorize people into confessions, ect. ect. ect.

no, it is not subjective opinion. If is established and documented historical fact.

By all means, please provide the documentation of these facts.

Considering the way that they were tracking down EVERYONE they could find, including peopel that didn't even enter the capitol building,

Very few people were prosecuted for merely being on restricted grounds without entering the Capitol, of which there were many thousands. Those who had not entered the Capitol were prosecuted generally had been engaging in other illegal activates like fighting with police, which Epps did not engage in.

it IS a matter of them having his face on video, and giving him a pass for over a year, until it got too embarassing. And then they gave him a token.

Yet again, you've never actually argued against whether he could be charged with incitement. As I stated earlier, he never called for anyone to do anything explicitly illegal. How do you charge someone with incitement if they don't explicitly call for something illegal?

perhaps you should have the balls to just take the L on this issue.

Perhaps you should actually try to refute my argument.

 

[Correll]

I can't respond to your post if you're not going to let me know who you're talking about. It has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican. It has everything to do with their actions. So who is "grandma?" Answer that and I can respond to your post. If you don't want to answer it, it's because you don't want to hear a reply from me.

You asked me a question. HOw can you look at "that" and call it inciting violence.

I gave you the answer.

You ignored the answer, to ask about something else, to DISTRACT from my answer to your question.

You are dropping your own point, as you move on to next attack.


This is a form of EVASION, and DEFLECTION.


The point has been well made. Your libs are not here to discuss this issue, but to defend the political arrest of your political enemies.


Ray Epps got a pass becasue you agree with me, ie that he is not one of your politcial enemies, but an agent of the government PRETENDING to be one of your enemies, to infiltrate them.

 

[Correll]

By all means, please provide the documentation of these facts.

Here the lefty pretends to be a FLEDGLING, ie born only a few hours ago, ignorant of recent history that he and all those reading, lived though and recall just fine.

Very few people were prosecuted for merely being on restricted grounds without entering the Capitol, of which there were many thousands. Those who had not entered the Capitol were prosecuted generally had been engaging in other illegal activates like fighting with police, which Epps did not engage in.

IF Epps had been arrested adn held for a year without charges, while the feds struggled to come up with a case that would pass muster, even in their kangeroo courts,

Then that argument would hold weight.

But he wasn't. He walked free while he supposed fellow rioters, were held without charges and terrorized.

Yet again, you've never actually argued against whether he could be charged with incitement. As I stated earlier, he never called for anyone to do anything explicitly illegal. How do you charge someone with incitement if they don't explicitly call for something illegal?

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Same way you charged that elderly grandmother with assault. YOu just do it, no matter how embarassing it would be to a person with a soul.

That is how the rest of the 1/6 accused were treated. But not Epps.

 

[Lesh]

And again you play the same game, trying to bog the discussion down in details.

NOte that I asked you WHY you asked, and you did not answer that question.

You instead state that you showed me his exact words.


That is not a WHY, that is a WHAT.


You are trying to derail the discussion. Because you lefty allies have already lost it.


The point has been made. You lefties are not here to discuss what happened, but to defend the political arrests of your political enemies.

Details matter moron

 

[Marener]

Here the lefty pretends to be a FLEDGLING, ie born only a few hours ago, ignorant of recent history that he and all those reading, lived though and recall just fine.

You decided to be insulting and go negative rather than substantiate your argument. There were hundreds of charges and prosecutions related to the prosecution, I'm sure there could have been isolated instances of problems, but nothing systemic.

But you should really substantiate your argument if you want it to be taken seriously.

IF Epps had been arrested adn held for a year without charges, while the feds struggled to come up with a case that would pass muster, even in their kangeroo courts,

Then that argument would hold weight.

But he wasn't. He walked free while he supposed fellow rioters, were held without charges and terrorized.

No one was held without charges. This is a lie.

Same way you charged that elderly grandmother with assault. YOu just do it, no matter how embarassing it would be to a person with a soul.

That is how the rest of the 1/6 accused were treated. But not Epps.

What's the problem with charging an "elderly grandmother" with assault if they decided to commit assault?

The facts matter, which is what leads to prosecutions. If a grandmother factually committed assault, she'd be prosecuted for it. Epps did not factually call for incitement to violence or illegal activity, then you shouldn't be surprised he wasn't charged.

 

[Correll]

Details matter moron

Sometimes. Other times what really matters is something else, like the larger picture.

In this case what matters is the way that you lefties refuse to answer any questions on your feelings about the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, and how much you hate them.

And what lengths you would go to, or support, to arrest them as individuals and weaken them as organizations.

 

[Lesh]

Oh Jesus

Ask your questions one at a time and they will be refuted

Engaging in the “Gish Gallop” is a loser’s debate tactic.

As far as your grandmas… which one was jailed ?

 

[Lesh]

Sometimes. Other times what really matters is something else, like the larger picture.

In this case what matters is the way that you lefties refuse to answer any questions on your feelings about the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, and how much you hate them.

And what lengths you would go to, or support, to arrest them as individuals and weaken them as organizations.

As far as the Proud a boys and Oathkeepers… yes they are scum. Little different from ANTIFA

 

[jacksonlamb]

g5000 was making a point. I addressed that point and explained how it was a retarded point, that only a liar or a retard would make.Your expressing your disagreement with a point I made elsewhere, is off topic, to that post.You are being an asshole now.

There is no evidence of entrapment or incitement. Ray Epps went to jail for it. He was not an FBI plant. There is simply no credible evidence that he was.

No more credible evidence than any for the election being fraudulent. None.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Why do you ask? Even if he expressly wrote up a formal request for a violent insurrection, you would support it, if he was an fbi agent inciting a riot so that your political enemies could be arrested.

So, you don't care what he did to incite violence. YOu support him regardless of his exact words or actions.

^ This clearly shows he has no evidence and that he is deliberately lying. What a filthy person Correll is.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Except all you have to do, to see that I am telling teh truth, is to go back to the start of this thread, adn then watch as I asked the leftards simple and clear questions, and they got evasive. Because they could see how my questions, no, that's not right, they could see how THEIR ANSWERS, would prove my point correct. Thus, your claim that I am "nut" and a "liar", is the claim that is a lie. And you are the nut. YOu are also, a ******* asshole. Go **** yourself.

You ask baited questions, you offer red herrings, you outright lie.

You are a typical MAGAt.

You will lose across the board this fall.

 

[Correll]

You decided to be insulting and go negative rather than substantiate your argument. There were hundreds of charges and prosecutions related to the prosecution, I'm sure there could have been isolated instances of problems, but nothing systemic.

I would not think that calling a lefty a lefty would be insulting. I would not be insulted if someone called me a rightie, or right leaning.

Indeed, it would be absurd for me to even pretend to care about it. CLEARLY I am a right leaning individual.

Referencing that, would be fine. I would be fine with anyone doing that.

So...yeah.

But you should really substantiate your argument if you want it to be taken seriously.

No one was held without charges. This is a lie.

Now there's some irony. You talk shit about ME not being taken seriously and then you lie about something we all saw. ie people being held without charges.

What's the problem with charging an "elderly grandmother" with assault if they decided to commit assault?

The fact that there was no injury to the young and armored cop. And that any real man would be embarassed to file those charges, against someone old enough to be his grandmother.

My point stands. THAT is how a lefty justice department goon, would charge Epps.

ie just do itt, no matter how it looks.


Instead, they gave him a pass. For over a year.

The facts matter, which is what leads to prosecutions. If a grandmother factually committed assault, she'd be prosecuted for it. Epps did not factually call for incitement to violence or illegal activity, then you shouldn't be surprised he wasn't charged.

if it was so hard to charge him and that is why he was not arrested,

why was he FINALLY arrested, after a year? What changed?

Other than the Justice Department being a laughing stock for clearly lying?

 

[Correll]

Oh Jesus

Ask your questions one at a time and they will be refuted

Engaging in the “Gish Gallop” is a loser’s debate tactic.

As far as your grandmas… which one was jailed ?

I did ask them one at a time. And you lefties all ran away. And spammed shit talk and evasions.

 

[jacksonlamb]

IN the context of him and his side, fully supporting the POLITICAL ARRESTS of your political enemies,it does not matter.He is attempting to bog the discussion down, in meaningless details and meaningless back and forth... shit talk,to DISTRACT from the point I have successfully made, ie that your side is not hear to discuss IF incitement or entrapment took place,but to defend it, if it did take place.Indeed, your behavior strongly indicates that you do believe it took place. Otherwise you would not be trying to derail the discussion.

You bog the discussion with irrelevancies. You are simply inadequate to defend your side.

 

[Political-Junkie]

And again you play the same game, trying to bog the discussion down in details.

NOte that I asked you WHY you asked, and you did not answer that question.

You instead state that you showed me his exact words.


That is not a WHY, that is a WHAT.


You are trying to derail the discussion. Because you lefty allies have already lost it.


The point has been made. You lefties are not here to discuss what happened, but to defend the political arrests of your political enemies.

I'm actually responding to claims you are making. That by definition is not bogging down or derailing the discussion. If anything, you're the one bogging down the discussion by not letting me know who you're talking about when you talked about "grandma." Q Shaman I know about, but I have no idea who you mean by "grandma." The ball is in your court to keep the discussion going.

 

[Correll]

There is no evidence of entrapment or incitement. Ray Epps went to jail for it. He was not an FBI plant. There is simply no credible evidence that he was.

No more credible evidence than any for the election being fraudulent. None.

That was not the point of my post, that you responded to.

So, your spamming of negs, is irrelevant to everything.

 

[Dragonlady]

Actually, no I didn't.

I asked the questions and they refused to answer. THey then said OTHER SHIT, about their support of the government vs the rioters,

but they refused to answer my questions.


Which is an answer in of itself.


We can run though it again, if you want, me and you, I can ask you the questions, adn you can choose whether to answer them or not.

And even if you do agree to it, very quickly you will start spamming deflections and changes of subject.

Because teh only defense against my point, would be to deny that you consider the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers to be dangerous and violent and blah, blah, blah.


Which you libs can't do. You HAVE to pretend that they are bad guys. To justify... so much of the evil shit that you have and are doing.

Methinks you doth protest too much. So much deflection and bullshit to try to pretend January 6th wasn't a violent insurrection, instigated by Donald Trump for the purpose of overturning Joe Biden's election.

I watched it on TV. ALL of it.

You're the one lying, spamming the thread, and attempting to deflect blame onto the FBI, or anyone really, except Trump.

 

[Correll]

You ask baited questions, you offer red herrings, you outright lie.

You are a typical MAGAt.

You will lose across the board this fall.

My questions were neither of those.

They were designed to reveal a point, ie that you lefties are here to DEFEND incitement and entrapment, IF it occurred.

If your answer was such that it did not support my argument, that would have been, shocking to me. But, there is no reason it could not have happened.

 

[Correll]

You bog the discussion with irrelevancies. You are simply inadequate to defend your side.

POinting out your reason for being here is not irrelevant.

Indeed, it is the MOST relevent thing.