About Those J6 “People”

[jacksonlamb]

Why are you defending this obvious corruption?

Why do you make such a lie?

 

[Political-Junkie]

What you see dumbass there was this perception of a stolen election. 81 million votes that didn't exist. You'll never get that stink off of your face you little twit. Damn you smell

50 states combined said he got 81 million votes and no one has proven otherwise.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Another reason not to trust the Washington DC judicial system run by democrats.

Prosecutors presented evidence that Rhodes, with others, conspired to oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power. Show where they failed to prove their case.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Epps conspired to lead people into the building. Same thing. In fact he was down on the ground doing it. Rhoads was not

No, it is not the same thing, not at all. The law did not see it that way. Rhodes was a baddie. Epps and you are each a saddie.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Breaking windows is not the same as cops shooting at visitors, using rubber bullets and then hurling flash bangs back of them to herd them to the capitol.

That's what police often do during a riot.

 

[Robert W]

The rioters are to blame for rioting.

There were mixed events that day. Most of them were there to visit and protest.

A lot smaller number were raising hell. Even the law knows that since of the 10,000 there, only 1550 were convicted and some wrongly convicted. Also, Trump did not pardon all of them.

Every Jan. 6 prisoner Donald Trump did not pardon

The 14 people included members of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers groups.

www.newsweek.com

Every January 6 Prisoner Donald Trump Did Not Pardon​

Donald Trump immediately making good his promise to pardon those involved in the January 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol building demonstrates the clash in how the new executive and the justice system view the riot.

Most sentences were given for relatively low-level offenses, such as illegally parading or demonstrating in the Capitol. Trump has drawn a line in commuting rather than pardoning these 14, who were convicted of more serious charges such as seditious conspiracy.

Commuted is not the same as pardoned.

Commuted

Former head and founder of the Oath Keepers Elmer Stewart Rhodes III was sentenced in 2023 to 18 years for seditious conspiracy, obstruction of an official proceeding and tampering with documents and proceedings. At the time, Rhodes said he was a "political prisoner."

Kelly Meggs​

The former head of the Oath Keepers' Florida chapter was sentenced to 12 years in prison for seditious conspiracy, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy to prevent an officer from discharging duties, and tampering with documents or proceedings in 2023.

Kenneth Harrelson​

Harrelson, another member of the Oath Keepers who stormed the Capitol building, was sentenced to 4 years for obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy to prevent an officer from discharging duties, and tampering with documents or proceedings.

Jessica Watkins​

Another member of the Oath Keepers, and the founder of an Ohio offshoot militia group, Watkins was sentenced to 8.5 years for her role in the riots.

Watkins was found guilty of mobilizing her militia group to storm the Capitol in tactical gear. She was sentenced under conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding.

Thomas Caldwell​

Retired Navy intelligence officer Caldwell was cleared earlier this month of the most serious charges he faced over the January 6 attack.

Caldwell was acquitted by a federal jury of seditious conspiracy and two other conspiracy offenses in one of the most serious cases brought by the Justice Department. One of two counts he was found guilty on at trial was dismissed in light of a U.S. Supreme Court ruling last year.

He served 53 days in prison for his remaining obstruction of justice offense conviction for deleting messages after the riot.

Per his sentencing memo, Calwell said, " heard that Pence f*cked us . . . so I grabbed up my American flag and said let's take the damn capitol...let's storm the place and hang the traitors." He described the riot as a "great time."
NOTE. 53 days for what Rhodes was convicted for. Rhodes, 18 years.

Roberto Minuta​

Oath Keepers member, Minuta was sentenced in June 2023 to 54 months in prison for seditious conspiracy charges.

He was also charged with conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, and obstruction of an official proceeding conspiracy to prevent Congress members from discharging their official duties on January 23.

Joseph Hackett​

Another Oath Keeper, Hackett was sentenced in June 2023 to 42 months in prison and 36 months of supervised release for seditious conspiracy, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of an official proceeding conspiracy to prevent Congress members from discharging their official duties on January 23, and destruction of evidence.

Edward Vallejo​

Oath Keeper member Vallejo was sentenced alongside Hackett and Minuta, to 36 months in prison, with the first year to be spent under home confinement.

He was convicted on charges of seditious conspiracy, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, and obstruction of an official proceeding conspiracy to prevent Congress members from discharging their official duties.

David Moerschel​

Moerschel was charged alongside fellow Oath Keeper members Vallejo, Hackett, and Minuta.

He was given 36 months in prison for the same charges of seditious conspiracy, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, and obstruction of an official proceeding conspiracy to prevent Congress members from discharging their official duties on Jan. 23.

Ethan Nordean​

Proud Boys members Joseph Biggs, left, and Ethan Nordean, right with megaphone, walk toward the U.S. Capitol in Washington, Jan. 6, 2021. | Carolyn Kaster, File/AP Photo
Nordean was a leader of the Proud Boys group and was sentenced to 18 years in prison and 36 months of supervised release for his role in the January 6 riot.

Nordean was convicted of felonies, including: seditious conspiracy, obstruction of an official proceeding and conspiracy to prevent members of Congress or federal officers from discharging their duties.

Proud Boys has been labelled as a "general hate" group by the SPLC. A specific branch of the Proud Boys who called themselves the "Ministry of Self Defence," played a pivotal organizational and violent role in the attempted insurrection, according to prosecutors.

"In the days leading to Jan. 6, Nordean and other leaders of the Ministry of Self-Defense hand-selected co-defendant Pezzola and others known as "rally boys" to participate in the attack on the Capitol that day," the DOJ said in a news release in September 2023, shortly after he was sentenced.

"This group established a chain of command, chose a time and place for their attack and intentionally recruited others who would follow their top-down leadership and who were prepared to engage in physical violence if necessary."

Dominic Pezzola​

Dominic Pezzola, center with police shield, confronted by U.S. Capitol Police officers outside the Senate Chamber inside the Capitol, Wednesday, Jan. ...Read More | Manuel Balce Ceneta/AP Photo
Pezzola, another Proud Boys leader, was charged alongside Nordean to 10 years in prison for obstructing justice and 'conspiracy to prevent members of Congress or federal officers from discharging their duties before and during the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.'

Per the DOJ, Pezzola was instrumental in leading recruits into the Capitol on January 6, and surged past officers who were working to contain the mob. Pezzola himself smashed open a window in the Capitol to allow rioters to enter the building.

Joseph Biggs​

In this Jan. 6, 2021, photo, Proud Boys including Joseph Biggs, front left, walks toward the U.S. Capitol in Washington. | Carolyn Kaster/AP Photo
Another Proud Boys leader, Biggs was sentenced to 17 years for seditious conspiracy and other related charges.

Biggs was also in the so-called Ministry of Self Defense group, and said the riot was a "warning shot to the government –look, we started this country this way and we'll f*ckin' save it this way.",

Zachary Rehl​

Proud Boys member Zachary Rehl walks toward the U.S. Capitol in Washington, Jan 6 2021. | Carolyn Kaster/AP Photo
Rehl was charged alongside fellow Proud Boy Joseph Biggs to 15 years for seditious conspiracy and other related charges.

Rehl posted over social media that January 6 was a "historic day," and that he was "so f*cking proud" of the Proud Boys' "raid of the capitol."

Jeremy Bertino​

Jeremy Bertino, another former Proud Boys leader, pled guilty in 2022 to seditious conspiracy charges.

Bertino was not present at the actual riot because he was recovering from being stabbed at another Proud Boys riot in December, 2020; however he participated in the encrypted chats set up by the Ministry of Self Defence, and was a key organizer behind the January 6 insurrection attempt, prosecutors said.

 

[Political-Junkie]

I don't see anywhere in that where Epps told anyone to stop Congress from certifying the election?

 

[jacksonlamb]

Maxwell was charged while Trump was president. Try and keep up, your TDS is flaring up.

She was tried by Biden and found guilty. Why did you think differently?

 

[jacksonlamb]

50 states combined said he got 81 million votes and no one has proven otherwise.

No one has come anywhere near the basement in proving anything but that it was fair.

 

[Robert W]

No, it is not the same thing, not at all. The law did not see it that way. Rhodes was a baddie. Epps and you are each a saddie.

Epps has hypnotized you into thinking he was really innocent.

 

[Alweysrite!]

You are dishonest, while, in fact, the committee was bipartisan and objective.

You are calling Liz Cheney bipartisan? LOL talk about dishonest
Hey remember when Biden had to pardon all of the jan-6 committee for their crimes?

 

[Robert W]

She was tried by Biden and found guilty. Why did you think differently?

He does not think differently. I also agree Biden tried her. Trump got this all started.

Biden took over is what he did. Question, why did Biden stop there?

 

[longly]

I think he didn’t care. He knew they were violent criminals… but they were HIS violent criminals

Remember the Weather Underground. And the SLA — the Symbionese Liberation Army — and note that, in my opinion, assaulting the police is a horrendous act; however, many on the left don’t seem to view it that way. Leftist extremist groups have committed politically motivated violence before, including the Weather Underground and the SLA. A more recent example of left‑wing anarchists engaging in violent acts occurred in Seattle a few years ago, when rioters attempted to burn down a federal courthouse.

 

[Clipper]

What you see dumbass there was this perception of a stolen election. 81 million votes that didn't exist. You'll never get that stink off of your face you little twit. Damn you smell

It was a pack of lies bellowed by your MAGA god who wasn't & still isn't man enough to admit that he lost. Neither are you, assclown.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Your problem is Biden has the Epstein files first. You are complaining that Trump has not gone after anyone and ignoring the fact that Biden didn't.

I'm actually not complaining either one is not going after them. I'm pointing out you can't name anyone Biden should have gone after even though you criticize him for not going after them. I'm also pointing out your hypocrisy for not criticizing Trump over the same thing you criticize Biden for.

 

[Alweysrite!]

Well maybe you don't know that. Doesn't mean no one else does.

Everyone knows, Epps was trying to lead a contingent into the building. He was trying to stir up trouble. He was a plant by democrats. Obviously

 

[Alweysrite!]

It was a pack of lies bellowed by your MAGA god who wasn't & still isn't man enough to admit that he lost. Neither are you, assclown.

Nah, you have no credibility because you stink ofJoe Biden.

 

[Alweysrite!]

I'm actually not complaining either one is not going after them. I'm pointing out you can't name anyone Biden should have gone after even though you criticize him for not going after them. I'm also pointing out your hypocrisy for not criticizing Trump over the same thing you criticize Biden for.

Biden had the files first. Who should he have prosecuted that Trump did not? Good point, thank you for that. Admit it you really only care about the files if Trump is in them to persecute. It's called TDS

 

[Alweysrite!]

I'm actually not complaining either one is not going after them. I'm pointing out you can't name anyone Biden should have gone after even though you criticize him for not going after them. I'm also pointing out your hypocrisy for not criticizing Trump over the same thing you criticize Biden for.

Actually you are the hypocrite. I don't think there's anybody for Trump to prosecute in the files because Biden had them first. It seems plain and simple. Two plain and simple for a hypocrite like you right?

 

[Alweysrite!]

Try and focus. I said you lied about him over something else. Not about you pointing out he didn't go into the Capitol after saying go into the Capitol.

He wanted to lead a contingent into the capital. Why? Seditious conspiracy?