About Those Iranian Missiles

[Zincwarrior]

Trump 45 constantly whined about Obama's JCPOA which had resulted in great success in ridding Iran of its enriched uranium among other accomplishments.

One of his chief complaints was that the JCPOA did not address Iran's ballistic missiles.

Example:

Remarks by President Trump on the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action​

Not only does the deal fail to halt Iran’s nuclear ambitions, but it also fails to address the regime’s development of ballistic missiles that could deliver nuclear warheads.


Okay? With me so far? Trump 45 was all about Iran not having ballistic missiles.

But what about Trump 47?

On the first day of his war with Iran, Trump put on his tough guy voice and said, "We're going to destroy their missiles and raze their missile industry to the ground. It will be totally again obliterated."


That never happened. Iran continued to fling missiles all over the Middle East, including killing 15 Americans and wounding hundreds more.


But the MOU made the elimination of Iran's ballistic missiles a central part, right? I mean, that was one of the key reasons he ripped up Obama's JCPOA. So the MOU requires Iran's ballistic missile program to be kaput, right?

Right?

NOPE!

There isn't a single word about ballistic missiles in the Memorandum of Understanding. Not a word.

Now, I always thought George Orwell was being allegorical when the proles in 1984 would do a complete mental flip-flop in a millisecond.

"We have always been at war with Eastasia."

Based on the behaviors of Trump's followers, I have since come to realize Orwell was being literal.

Here's Trump at the G7 summit after signing the MOU:

Trump: Unfair for Iran not to have ballistic missiles

"If other countries have them, it's a little bit unfair for them not to have some. A ballistic missile is not the same thing we're talking about when we talk [about] nuclear. If Saudi Arabia and Qatar, they all have some, I would say in relative proportion – I think it's ok."


1. Ballistic missiles, unfair not to let Iran have them.

2. $25 million cash payment to Iran.

3. $300 billion in reparations to Iran.

4. All sanctions lifted.




Total. Capitulation.


This sure has not aged well:

Yea but this agreement is the bigliest bestest ever

 

[g5000]

Yea but this agreement is the bigliest bestest ever

.
I have no doubt Mojtaba Khamenei is learning to love Trump.

Just like Xi, Putin, and Kim do.

.

 

[eagle1462010]

You are pathetic. Not a single original thought in your head.

You MAGAs all parrot the same bullshit. I have yet to hear ANY of you come up with something authentic or true.

Using your mass MAGA TardLogic™, Trump was a terrorist supporter back when he demanded we cut and run from Iraq. When he demanded Nancy Pelosi impeach Bush for lying about WMDs, he was backing Al Qaeda in Iraq (AIQ).

"Cut-and-run". Remember when you neocons came up with that catchphrase for people like Trump?

TRUMP: When [Pelosi] first got in and was named speaker, I met her. And I'm very impressed by her. I think she's a very impressive person, I like her a lot. But I was surprised that she didn't do more in terms of Bush and going after Bush . It just seemed like she was really going to look to impeach Bush and get him out of office. Which personally I think would have been a wonderful thing.

BLITZER: To impeach him?

TRUMP: For the war. For the war! Well, he lied! He got us into the war with lies!

TRUMP: I mean, look at the trouble Bill Clinton got into with something that was totally unimportant. And they tried to impeach him, which was nonsense. And yet Bush got us into this horrible war with lies, by lying. By saying they had WMDs, by saying all sorts of things that happened not to be true.





BLITZER: How does the United States get out of this situation?

TRUMP: You know how they get out? They get out! That's how they get out. Declare victory, and leave.

Im not ROOTING FOR IRAN

YOU ARE

 

[g5000]

Im not ROOTING FOR IRAN

YOU ARE

I feel like I'm debating a third grader.

 

[eagle1462010]

Cut-and-run terrorist supporter Donald Trump has never once wavered from his attacks on Bush over WMDs in Iraq, to this day.

It's amazing how this far left limousine liberal New York Democrat was able to hypnotize the masses just by changing the letter after his name to an R. This is just how profoundly shallow they are.

It's almost like there is something demonic going on.

Gulf War syndrome was Sarin Gas

 

[eagle1462010]

I feel like I'm debating a third grader.

Why did OUR SO CALLED ALLIES DENY US USE OF OUR BASES

 

[g5000]

Why did OUR SO CALLED ALLIES DENY US USE OF OUR BASES

Because they didn't want to be involved in Trump's idiotic Epstein Diversion war.

They could foresee exactly what would happen to the global economy, and wanted no part of it.

Duh.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[eagle1462010]

Because they didn't want to be involved in Trump's idiotic Epstein Diversion war.

They could foresee exactly what would happen to the global economy, and wanted no part of it.

Duh.

Fair Weather Friend Only.

Didnt you clap with Glee about our refuelers getting hit in Saudi Arabia. Hmmm

Forced there because of countries like Italy.

Such FRIENDS THEY TRULY ARE HUH?

 

[g5000]

Fair Weather Friend Only.

Didnt you clap with Glee about our refuelers getting hit in Saudi Arabia. Hmmm

Forced there because of countries like Italy.

Such FRIENDS THEY TRULY ARE HUH?

You really must be in the third grade. Your posts are on the same level as a Trump tweet.

 

[eagle1462010]

You really must be in the third grade. Your posts are on the same level as a Trump tweet.

I asked a simple question.

So simple a 3rd Grader can understand it.

Why did our SO CALLED ALLIES DENY US LOGISTIC USE OF OUR BASES against IRAN?

 

[g5000]

I asked a simple question.

So simple a 3rd Grader can understand it.

Why did our SO CALLED ALLIES DENY US LOGISTIC USE OF OUR BASES against IRAN?

I answered your dumb question.

Go back and look, kid.

 

[eagle1462010]

I answered your dumb question.

Go back and look, kid.

And gave a BS answer kissing Italys As.s.

What use are they if we cant use it?

 

[Independent thinker]

Trump 45 constantly whined about Obama's JCPOA which had resulted in great success in ridding Iran of its enriched uranium among other accomplishments.

One of his chief complaints was that the JCPOA did not address Iran's ballistic missiles.

Example:

Remarks by President Trump on the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action​

Not only does the deal fail to halt Iran’s nuclear ambitions, but it also fails to address the regime’s development of ballistic missiles that could deliver nuclear warheads.


Okay? With me so far? Trump 45 was all about Iran not having ballistic missiles.

But what about Trump 47?

On the first day of his war with Iran, Trump put on his tough guy voice and said, "We're going to destroy their missiles and raze their missile industry to the ground. It will be totally again obliterated."


That never happened. Iran continued to fling missiles all over the Middle East, including killing 15 Americans and wounding hundreds more.


But the MOU made the elimination of Iran's ballistic missiles a central part, right? I mean, that was one of the key reasons he ripped up Obama's JCPOA. So the MOU requires Iran's ballistic missile program to be kaput, right?

Right?

NOPE!

There isn't a single word about ballistic missiles in the Memorandum of Understanding. Not a word.

Now, I always thought George Orwell was being allegorical when the proles in 1984 would do a complete mental flip-flop in a millisecond.

"We have always been at war with Eastasia."

Based on the behaviors of Trump's followers, I have since come to realize Orwell was being literal.

Here's Trump at the G7 summit after signing the MOU:

Trump: Unfair for Iran not to have ballistic missiles

"If other countries have them, it's a little bit unfair for them not to have some. A ballistic missile is not the same thing we're talking about when we talk [about] nuclear. If Saudi Arabia and Qatar, they all have some, I would say in relative proportion – I think it's ok."


1. Ballistic missiles, unfair not to let Iran have them.

2. $25 million cash payment to Iran.

3. $300 billion in reparations to Iran.

4. All sanctions lifted.




Total. Capitulation.


This sure has not aged well:

So, you must be satisfied with everything else since you only posted about one thing. By the way, if you were happy with Obama allowing ballistic missiles then why attack Trump for something you were ok with?

 

[Dante]

Trump 45 constantly whined about Obama's JCPOA which had resulted in great success in ridding Iran of its enriched uranium among other accomplishments.

One of his chief complaints was that the JCPOA did not address Iran's ballistic missiles.

Example:

Remarks by President Trump on the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action​

Not only does the deal fail to halt Iran’s nuclear ambitions, but it also fails to address the regime’s development of ballistic missiles that could deliver nuclear warheads.


Okay? With me so far? Trump 45 was all about Iran not having ballistic missiles.

But what about Trump 47?

On the first day of his war with Iran, Trump put on his tough guy voice and said, "We're going to destroy their missiles and raze their missile industry to the ground. It will be totally again obliterated."


That never happened. Iran continued to fling missiles all over the Middle East, including killing 15 Americans and wounding hundreds more.


But the MOU made the elimination of Iran's ballistic missiles a central part, right? I mean, that was one of the key reasons he ripped up Obama's JCPOA. So the MOU requires Iran's ballistic missile program to be kaput, right?

Right?

NOPE!

There isn't a single word about ballistic missiles in the Memorandum of Understanding. Not a word.

Now, I always thought George Orwell was being allegorical when the proles in 1984 would do a complete mental flip-flop in a millisecond.

"We have always been at war with Eastasia."

Based on the behaviors of Trump's followers, I have since come to realize Orwell was being literal.

Here's Trump at the G7 summit after signing the MOU:

Trump: Unfair for Iran not to have ballistic missiles

"If other countries have them, it's a little bit unfair for them not to have some. A ballistic missile is not the same thing we're talking about when we talk [about] nuclear. If Saudi Arabia and Qatar, they all have some, I would say in relative proportion – I think it's ok."


1. Ballistic missiles, unfair not to let Iran have them.

2. $25 million cash payment to Iran.

3. $300 billion in reparations to Iran.

4. All sanctions lifted.




Total. Capitulation.


This sure has not aged well:

You...
Always with the disingenuous bs, the lying through omission, the disgusting half truths and misinformation.

any search will yield:
The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) did not directly place legal limits on Iran's conventional military or ballistic missile capabilities. While critics frequently cite this as a flaw, the restrictions on Iran's missile programs were handled separately.

Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation +2

Here are the specific details regarding how Iran's missile program was handled:

• The JCPOA Text: The text of the JCPOA itself did not restrict Iran from developing, producing, or testing ballistic missiles. It focused strictly on Iran’s nuclear program to prevent the development of a nuclear weapon.
  
  
  Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation +2
  
  
• UN Security Council Resolution 2231: When the JCPOA was adopted, the UN Security Council passed Resolution 2231 to endorse the deal. Annex B of this resolution called upon Iran to refrain from undertaking any activity related to ballistic missiles "designed to be capable of delivering nuclear weapons".
  
  
  Arms Control Association
  
  
• Expiration and Testing: The Resolution 2231 restrictions on Iran's ballistic missile activities and conventional arms transfers were designed as temporary, eight-year limits.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

1. Ballistic missiles, unfair not to let Iran have them.

2. $25 million cash payment to Iran.

3. $300 billion in reparations to Iran.

4. All sanctions lifted.




Total. Capitulation.

True.

None of which would have happened had Trump not started his failed, illegal war of choice.

And the Strait was open before the war.

 

[kyzr]

True.
None of which would have happened had Trump not started his failed, illegal war of choice.
And the Strait was open before the war.

...and Iran would have nuclear weapons and ICBMs. No thanks.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

...and Iran would have nuclear weapons and ICBMs. No thanks.

$25 million cash payment to Iran.

$300 billion in reparations to Iran.

All sanctions lifted.

13 Americans dead in a failed, pointless war that leaves a militant Iranian regime emboldened with a strategic advantage.

And the Strait was open before the war.

 

[kyzr]

$25 million cash payment to Iran.

$25b, their money, they don't have it yet.

$300 billion in reparations to Iran.

Zero paid. None would be US dollars

All sanctions lifted.

Maybe not if Iran nixes the MOU.

13 Americans dead in a failed, pointless war that leaves a militant Iranian regime emboldened with a strategic advantage.
And the Strait was open before the war.

Hormuz is easily opened, Iran is a disaster, why don't you move there since you like that side so much?