About that debt ceiling. . .

OK…….lets start at the top

$518,000 to study how cocaine affects the sexual behavior of Japanese quails?

Do you think anyone cares whether Japanese Quails take cocaine and then have sex?

Cocaine is a dangerous addictive drug. Studying its impacts are important to society. I know nothing about Japanese Quails, but I am sure the study, if you bothered to post it explains why they were chosen as test subjects.
But it is easier to mischaracterize the study and call it a waste of money
If they want to study something that makes a difference to anybody, they would do the study on people who use cocaine. And even then is that something the federal government should be doing when the national debt and the massive interest constantly increasing on that debt threatens to significantly do harm to the American people?
 
Geez, how many times have we heard of this desire to reign in, before, with nothing to show for it? About the only that ever seemed to make headway, I am aware of is President Andrew Jackson, a Democrat that wiped it out, and President Bill Clinton, a Democrat that was only able to make headway with assistance of Newt Gingrich, then saw that progress wiped out when the Republicans won in 2000.
Why don't you be honest and say that it was wiped out by 9/11? In 2001, the Senate went Democrat.
 
OK…….lets start at the top

$518,000 to study how cocaine affects the sexual behavior of Japanese quails?

Do you think anyone cares whether Japanese Quails take cocaine and then have sex?

Cocaine is a dangerous addictive drug. Studying its impacts are important to society. I know nothing about Japanese Quails, but I am sure the study, if you bothered to post it explains why they were chosen as test subjects.
But it is easier to mischaracterize the study and call it a waste of money
You are absolutely hilarious!
 
Since 1960, Congress has raised, extended, or revised the debt limit 78 separate times, of which 49 were under Republican presidents and 29 were under Democratic presidents, according to the Department of Treasury.
And the Congress has never refused to raise the debt limit in the last 84 years either. As they ALWAYS raise it and invariable include a LOT of additional pork spending into every CR, I can see why Trump wants to do away with the debt limit entirely for now. It not only would save the American taxpayers billions and billions if Congress doesn't have opportunity to insert all that pork into the CRs but he won't be wasting his time doing this all over again a few months down the road.
 
I don't know what we're supposed to expect, with an electoral "system" that incentivizes and rewards the very worst impulses of its participants.

The top priorities on which these people act are fundraising and getting re-elected, because that's what our "system" dictates.

Until we fix this "system" with ideas like term limits and getting money out of politics, we can just keep bending over and taking it.

The American public just doesn't care enough about this. We deserve what we're getting.
I think giving Trump, DOGE and the other reformers in his administration and Congress a chance to do things differently, to make things better, to shake up a destructive status quo, might change the perspective of a lot of Americans.

We very often don't know what we want until somebody shows us something better.

One truth of life drilled into me in management school: You can't change a bad system by changing the people. And you can't change bad people by changing the system.

So I have great hope that we will have better people running the show to develop a better system that works better for us all.
 
Then why did Trump lobby to remove the debt ceiling earlier this week?
Every single item on your list is indeed a "small potato". Won't make a blip. They are political, just and righteous wedges for the lemmings who think its time to rip the safety nets away from the vulnerable while preserving the pork for the wealthy.
There are five areas in the budget that make up the lion share of the deficit/debt. And I don't see any of those on your list.
Doesn’t matter that those incredibly expensive but useless experiments would only be a blip in the overall budget. The death of one black American is a drop in the bucket, compared to the massacre of black children by the abortion industry. Liberals worked up an a fury that killed hundreds of other people about George Floyd.
 
Frustrating isn’t it?
It's not. It's the OP's MO. Shotgun something and the minute you're called on it, run away and hide in "the meaning". Problem is, there is none.
The OP is outraged at spending on things they consider frivolous. And they might very well be. But they don't make any difference. The OP was a smokescreen for a political rant.
Everything in that list, falls in the 2% Other category....meaningless.
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We need a balanced budget amendment so that the $1.1T interest on the Debt can't go any higher.
The interest on the Debt, at current low interest rates is:
2020 $550b
2021 $550b
2022 $650b
2023 $850b
2024 $1.1T
2025 The US dollar will collapse if we don't fix the deficit.

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We won't fix the deficit until we eliminate wasteful, inefficient, ineffective, unnecessary, corrupt spending and figure out how to prevent Congress from continuing to cause that to happen. We have the best chance we have had in a very long time for Trump, DOGE, other reformers to make that happen. Maybe they will fail. But they certainly deserve a chance to try.
 
Why don't you be honest and say that it was wiped out by 9/11? In 2001, the Senate went Democrat.
Oh, sure man! I am certain two useless wars (for the outcome achieved, money spent and loss of life) had nothing to do with it, and he just never found is footing, clean up to the economic collapse of the banking industry. You know, how we all enjoyed the ride and the security of the direction of his leadership. :rolleyes:
 
It's kinda like this......give them toot and see if they can get a hardon.

The findings and others like it [e.g., 14, 15] suggest that cocaine and similar psychostimulants may facilitate sexual conditioning and thereby contribute to a drug-facilitated increase in sexual activity.

Several people I knew conducted unscientific testing on Friday nights at the local tavern.


Trump had asked for a debt ceiling increase in the coming year so we wouldn't get in the jackpot overspending the current limit, then wants to eliminate it.
Fact! The debt ceiling is worthless because they ALWAYS raise it. And every so many months that we hit that debt ceiling, that gives Congress opportunity to insert many billions more pork into every CR bill that raises it. Trump wants to not be burdened with that in his early months in office but his intention is to eliminate as much bad spending by government as possible/reasonable and put us back onto a fiscally beneficial road.
 
Doesn’t matter that those incredibly expensive but useless experiments would only be a blip in the overall budget. The death of one black American is a drop in the bucket, compared to the massacre of black children by the abortion industry. Liberals worked up an a fury that killed hundreds of other people about George Floyd.
That's why I'm seeing Chip Roy, though I do believe he is operating from a place of integrity, is short sighted to oppose the revised CR bill. All Trump wants is to get it done, get inaugurated, and get to work on making things better, especially economically, and doesn't want to be burdened with another of these debt ceiling fights in the early months of his Presidency. Yes the revised bill is imperfect and doesn't include the spending cuts Roy wants. But he isn't going to get what he wants with the current Senate and President. Why not do the best they can, which is the revised bill, and then help Trump and company fix things beginning January 20?
 
OK…….lets start at the top

$518,000 to study how cocaine affects the sexual behavior of Japanese quails?

Do you think anyone cares whether Japanese Quails take cocaine and then have sex?

Cocaine is a dangerous addictive drug. Studying its impacts are important to society. I know nothing about Japanese Quails, but I am sure the study, if you bothered to post it explains why they were chosen as test subjects.
But it is easier to mischaracterize the study and call it a waste of money

That or maybe it was just another of a million ways to divert taxpayer funds into the hands of someone owed a favor by some unscrupulous politician? Meh. That would never happen in government now would it?
 
It's not. It's the OP's MO. Shotgun something and the minute you're called on it, run away and hide in "the meaning". Problem is, there is none.
The OP is outraged at spending on things they consider frivolous. And they might very well be. But they don't make any difference. The OP was a smokescreen for a political rant.
Everything in that list, falls in the 2% Other category....meaningless.
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You've obviously never worked with a funding budget to run some entity, organization, government or whatever. Most especially a budget like our federal budget in which each department/agency gets more money only if they spend what they have been allocated. That is a blueprint for wasteful, inefficient, ineffective, unnecessary, even corrupt spending of great magnitude when you get into tens of billions of dollars. Your chart is meaningless to illustrate any of that.
 
The only truly meaningful dialogue being had...well..except for on here...




The Democrats and irresponsible Republicans won't go for that though because it doesn't allow them to put any pork at all into the legislations without it being obvious they are being irresponsible.
 
Oh, sure man! I am certain two useless wars (for the outcome achieved, money spent and loss of life) had nothing to do with it, and he just never found is footing, clean up to the economic collapse of the banking industry. You know, how we all enjoyed the ride and the security of the direction of his leadership. :rolleyes:
If you are going to cite history to make your point here, please use honest history and not the propaganda version.

So do you agree with or disagree with the OP?
 
Oh, sure man! I am certain two useless wars (for the outcome achieved, money spent and loss of life) had nothing to do with it, and he just never found is footing, clean up to the economic collapse of the banking industry. You know, how we all enjoyed the ride and the security of the direction of his leadership. :rolleyes:
What's that hot mess? :dunno:
 
Oh, sure man! I am certain two useless wars (for the outcome achieved, money spent and loss of life) had nothing to do with it, and he just never found is footing, clean up to the economic collapse of the banking industry. You know, how we all enjoyed the ride and the security of the direction of his leadership. :rolleyes:
You said 2000. We didn't go into Afghanistan until October 2001 and Iraq until 2003. You seem to be missing a lot of context. As per usual, you seem to run short on facts.
 

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