Zone1 Abortion Debate: Come Clean and without fallacy

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I did. Young people need not be open to procreating...

Are you an anti-child person in every aspect of your life? Why do you hate kids?

 

[initforme]

Are you an anti-child person in every aspect of your life? Why do you hate kids?

I dont. Have 3 of my own. Thanks!!!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I dont. Have 3 of my own. Thanks!!!

Apparently, they couldn't stay married and hate kids too, since they only provided one grandchild.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

pknopp you can "fake news" me all you want, but you haven't explained...

How can someone kill another in self defense if nobody has the right to take the life of another?

 

[Leo123]

The issue has been settled. Roe is gone. Voters decide as it should be. Nobody lises i. This scenario.

The subject of the thread is not about abortion law, it is about the morality and philosophy of abortion and about taking life. Even a zygote represents human life. It will, if not killed, most certainly develop into a human person's life. It is actually worse than killing or murder it is denying the opportunity to develop after the spark of conception and the organized action of dividing and developing cells.

My question is why, under normal circumstances, would any life be unwanted?

 

[Leo123]

pknopp you can "fake news" me all you want, but you haven't explained...

How can someone kill another in self defense if nobody has the right to take the life of another?

There are a lot of pussies here that throw a punch and run away. You encountered one of them.

 

[pknopp]

pknopp you can "fake news" me all you want, but you haven't explained...

How can someone kill another in self defense if nobody has the right to take the life of another?

We can stop people from taking a life.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

We can stop people from taking a life.

By taking a life? That runs in direct contradiction with your first claim. Do you know what an impasse is? I'm not being nasty, but you are at complete odds and speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

 

[Leo123]

We can stop people from taking a life.

Abortion is taking or pre-empting a human life yet, some cheer for it.

 

[pknopp]

Abortion is taking a life yet, some cheer for it.

No doubt.

 

[Leo123]

No doubt.

What a vapid, stupid post. But then, consider the source.

 

[pknopp]

What a vapid, stupid post. But then, consider the source.

Well I was agreeing with you so..........

 

[Leo123]

Well I was agreeing with you so..........

How so?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

pknopp

Nobody can kill another
You can kill in self-defense

Which is it.

 

[pknopp]

How so?

Do you not speak English. You said abortion is taking a life and some cheer it.

I said no doubt.

Is that really difficult?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

pknopp disagree all you want, but until you smooth out your inconsistency, you hold no ground

 

[alang1216]

1. Scientific: We know that once a sperm and egg unite, they create a unique human life with it's own DNA that is separate from the mother. So it has nothing directly to do with the body of the mother. The mother is a nourisher and supporter of the life inside her, and is performing a woman's superpower, something men cannot do.

This is a social issue not a scientific one. At least for me. To me, a person is someone who displays the unique attributes that make us human, essentially a functioning brain. A newborn displays this, a fertilized egg does not. A mother should have the option of abortion up to some point between these two end points.

2. Philosophic: We are trying to determine the value of a human life, when it begins, what a "person" is. The bottom line is that nobody can say for certain. We've seen horrible atrocities occur when human life is devalued by dictators. The creation of a human life is the ultimate value, and the beginning of the process of a unique being's journey towards it's full complete journey through birth, growing as a child, through teens, and into generally a complete adult by age 23-25.

We often determine the value of a human life, e.g., in our laws, in war, punishments, illnesses, etc. This is merely another instance of it.

3. Religious: God loves us, and the teachings are clear He does not approve of us deciding to kill his creations in this way.

I'm an atheist but I don't believe God has ever been against killing. The genocide of Joshua or the stoning of sinners are some examples.

 

[initforme]

Apparently, they couldn't stay married and hate kids too, since they only provided one grandchild.

Whats wrong with 1 grandchild?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Whats wrong with 1 grandchild?

Not enough.

 

[initforme]

Not enough.

Thats your opinion, not a fact.