ABC On Biden’s Border Crisis: “Total Mayhem,” Dems “Growing Increasingly Frustrated” With Biden

It goes without saying Mexico's economy and living standards in no way justify this.
Most of Mexico is fine, the worst off are those living in shacks working at American companies for cents an hour.
Other than that, Mexico is a pretty decent place to live.
These kids are here for another reason - the Mexican government wanting to shed costly orphans? The Cartel sending over kids to use in drug sales? All of the above?
The one thing they are not - is children of normal Mexican families. Indeed, they are more family loyal than we are.
Seriously? Have you ever been to the rural areas of Mexico?

It sure does justify this when the rhetoric is that the doors are wide open.
 
It's really the progressives. Nothing Biden can do will satisfy them. You may remember they were angry that Obama was deporting more than anyone ever deported before .... or after.

The progressives want these potential immigrants to be allowed into the country and humanely held pending determinations. As Trump found out the hard way, the US const requires people receive certain rights when they acquiesce to be subject to our laws. These people naturally want those rights, and they are truly desperate. Trump's solution was ultimately to just not let them in, and that was the major change from Obama. If they snuck over the border, and were arrested, he tossed them back over, just like Obama did. Some made it across desert. Some died. And people stopped coming in such large numbers.

It seems akin to me like survivors in the water from a disaster and a ship putting over nets to let people climb to safety, but there are more nets than people. When the survivors come to endanger the ship, the crew has to cut the nets. There's nothing humane in that.

I suppose the progressives simply want to take everyone in who wants to come. Biden seems to essentially redoing the Obama strategy. Camps are set up in America. Adults are held till they can be given a court hearing. Children cannot be legally held, so they are transferred as quickly as possible to foster placements. And they will likely be here for life.

jmo, but despite Progressive claims to humane treatment, we have to have these folks camp out in Mexico or just stop coming. Maybe we need to pay Mexico.
 
It's really the progressives. Nothing Biden can do will satisfy them. You may remember they were angry that Obama was deporting more than anyone ever deported before .... or after.

The progressives want these potential immigrants to be allowed into the country and humanely held pending determinations. As Trump found out the hard way, the US const requires people receive certain rights when they acquiesce to be subject to our laws. These people naturally want those rights, and they are truly desperate. Trump's solution was ultimately to just not let them in, and that was the major change from Obama. If they snuck over the border, and were arrested, he tossed them back over, just like Obama did. Some made it across desert. Some died. And people stopped coming in such large numbers.

It seems akin to me like survivors in the water from a disaster and a ship putting over nets to let people climb to safety, but there are more nets than people. When the survivors come to endanger the ship, the crew has to cut the nets. There's nothing humane in that.

I suppose the progressives simply want to take everyone in who wants to come. Biden seems to essentially redoing the Obama strategy. Camps are set up in America. Adults are held till they can be given a court hearing. Children cannot be legally held, so they are transferred as quickly as possible to foster placements. And they will likely be here for life.

jmo, but despite Progressive claims to humane treatment, we have to have these folks camp out in Mexico or just stop coming. Maybe we need to pay Mexico.
There is only one way to stymie the immigration here: remove the advantages of doing so. Trump was actually doing that as well as the rhetoric that he pushed. Biden is not so the flow starts back up again. Trump was not addressing the core problems though and his strategy of making the trip far worse so the advantages seemed less enticing was a piss poor way to deal with immigration. The advantages need to be dealt with.

The immigration system cannot be fixed in its current form. It needs to be rebuilt if we want a real immigrations system.
 
Simple terms even a PROG can comprehend:

Cause:
Biden has CLEARLY supported illegal immigration and he's welcomed everyone under the BS, overused, subjective and does not apply term asylum.

The left has sanctuary cities, they speak free benefits, they speak their desire for brown, mixed culture or no culture, anti-USA, pro-foreigners blah blah blah.

Trump was pro-USA & called the left's position on immigration exactly what it is, BS. Trump promoted a wall, had Mexico's assistance. Shit getting under control & heading into the right direction. The establishment hates that fucking shit. For starts they need the English-illiterate to vote for them.

Biden was appointed to replace Trump and then destroys Trump's border policies. More importantly kills the wall, which is symbolic. South Americans REJOICE.

Effect:

Butt-hurt PROGS are upset that Biden isn't the lovely savior of foreign humanity they voted for. They can't figure out how they learned to hate Trump so much & now they see that WHOOPS, perhaps they're just a dumbass simpletons & were had again, so let's blame Biden because PROGS reject responsibility all the time. These are the minority of course, because PROG-measures always, I say ALWAYS entertains the LOWEST common denominator (Transvestite Lives Matter, boo hoo!). How many Americans want our country CRASHED by foreigners, 10-20%? The dumbest of them be sure, that's who the Democrats entertain 24/7, they normalize the abnormal, fuck PROGS.

South Americans are smarter than PROGS because their heads haven't been filled with shit yet. So based on the actions of the USA speaking free healthcare, special entitlements, immigrants taking the most welfare, sanctuaries, $15 an hour and OMG, let's CRASH the joint.

Biden demonstrates what he always was, a fucking fraud, and that's beyond the dementia PROGS mandated as fit for leadership. Biden's message to south Americans is now don't come. OWN IT BIDEN, AND OWN IT PROGS. You fuckers are full of shit.
 
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Immigration can be fixed. Trump was not totally off base, and that's proven by the fact that he actually increased the gop's share of latino/hispanic votes (and not just cuban american) There is a political solution, but the gop is just as intransigent as the progressives. We lack a political will to do a pretty simple fix.

The "system" is set up the way it is for a reason. The 13th prohibits slavery. The 14th does two things: 1) every person who comes here and agrees to be subject our laws becomes entitled to basic due process, including not being locked up or deported without judicial hearing. 2) every person born here is a citizen. Those two provisions made it impossible that the 1% could ever import a worker class without rights.

If we don't want people to have the rights under #1, just don't let em come here. Trump was actually doing that. A super maj don't want open borders. Don't let them have jobs and fine employers. Progressives don't like it, but if the gop actually plays to the maj, they'll take the House.

The GOP runs afoul of political will when they try to deport everyone who slipped through. A super maj of American don't want to kick out every person who's lived here, paid taxes and raised kids. If the idiot dems would ever agree to a plan to enforce borders while also finding some compromise that dealt with the realities of family units with both citizens and illegal immigrants, the gop might not ever sniff 10% of latino votes.
 
Seriously? Have you ever been to the rural areas of Mexico?

It sure does justify this when the rhetoric is that the doors are wide open.
So what about all the money we send to Mexico every year? Where does that go and what does it do?
When is Mexico ever going to clean up it's filthy corrupt act?

Biden has really fucked the pooch good this time. That's what happens when you put a long time
corrupt incompetent in the White House.
Good job, democrats.
 
I'm surprised ABC didn't cover up the border crisis like they did bill Clinton and Epstein. It must really really bad
FOX is all over it...ABC had to say something....lol

Yup just saw a segment on Fox about gunfire at the border. Must be the Texas NG shooting the bastards as they try to cross the border. Either that or cartel's trying to cross and getting shot at.
 
Seriously? Have you ever been to the rural areas of Mexico?

It sure does justify this when the rhetoric is that the doors are wide open.
So what about all the money we send to Mexico every year? Where does that go and what does it do?
When is Mexico ever going to clean up it's filthy corrupt act?

Biden has really fucked the pooch good this time. That's what happens when you put a long time
corrupt incompetent in the White House.
Good job, democrats.
I have no idea where the money sent to Mexico goes, it is not relevant to the reality on the ground. The general level of opportunity there sucks.

As far as cleaning up, never under the current government. Mexico has been steeped in corruption for a long time and it is only getting worse. Even the heavy tourist areas are beginning to feel the crimes created by the corruption close in. You know it has gotten really bad when it chases away the big money.
 
It seems a surprise that - when they tell people who literally are so desperate they will chance theirs and their children's lives to get here, that they'll be given housing pending immigration decisions - a whole lot of people come.
Homeless crises in every city in America. Joe Biden turns a blind eye and opens the southern border and says "C'mon In" SMH. What happened to common sense and sanity in our nation?
 
It seems a surprise that - when they tell people who literally are so desperate they will chance theirs and their children's lives to get here, that they'll be given housing pending immigration decisions - a whole lot of people come.
Homeless crises in every city in America. Joe Biden turns a blind eye and opens the southern border and says "C'mon In" SMH. What happened to common sense and sanity in our nation?
Democrats want to force poor Americans to compete with poor foreign nationals for resources meant for Americans. Democrats are politically invested in keeping people poor and creating more poor people
 
It's really the progressives. Nothing Biden can do will satisfy them. You may remember they were angry that Obama was deporting more than anyone ever deported before .... or after.

The progressives want these potential immigrants to be allowed into the country and humanely held pending determinations. As Trump found out the hard way, the US const requires people receive certain rights when they acquiesce to be subject to our laws. These people naturally want those rights, and they are truly desperate. Trump's solution was ultimately to just not let them in, and that was the major change from Obama. If they snuck over the border, and were arrested, he tossed them back over, just like Obama did. Some made it across desert. Some died. And people stopped coming in such large numbers.

It seems akin to me like survivors in the water from a disaster and a ship putting over nets to let people climb to safety, but there are more nets than people. When the survivors come to endanger the ship, the crew has to cut the nets. There's nothing humane in that.

I suppose the progressives simply want to take everyone in who wants to come. Biden seems to essentially redoing the Obama strategy. Camps are set up in America. Adults are held till they can be given a court hearing. Children cannot be legally held, so they are transferred as quickly as possible to foster placements. And they will likely be here for life.

jmo, but despite Progressive claims to humane treatment, we have to have these folks camp out in Mexico or just stop coming. Maybe we need to pay Mexico.
There is only one way to stymie the immigration here: remove the advantages of doing so. Trump was actually doing that as well as the rhetoric that he pushed. Biden is not so the flow starts back up again. Trump was not addressing the core problems though and his strategy of making the trip far worse so the advantages seemed less enticing was a piss poor way to deal with immigration. The advantages need to be dealt with.

The immigration system cannot be fixed in its current form. It needs to be rebuilt if we want a real immigrations system.
Trump's Stay in Mexico program was the most effective program at controlling immigration that has been implemented in decades. Work on the wall should resume and the Stay in Mexico program should be reinstated.
 
It seems a surprise that - when they tell people who literally are so desperate they will chance theirs and their children's lives to get here, that they'll be given housing pending immigration decisions - a whole lot of people come.
Homeless crises in every city in America. Joe Biden turns a blind eye and opens the southern border and says "C'mon In" SMH. What happened to common sense and sanity in our nation?
Democrats want to force poor Americans to compete with poor foreign nationals for resources meant for Americans. Democrats are politically invested in keeping people poor and creating more poor people
Biden and the democrats have blatantly sold the US down the river. Welcome to the third world.
 
Anyone Notice AOC don't care about the kids in cages anymore?
Wrong. Get it right, they are 'facilities' now, not cages.


They do not even show the facility this time - just the outer fence. The flip in terminology is stark after the election.

They're not allowed inside. Biden has banned all journalists, human rights advocates, and lawyers from his concentration camps. It might take a military action to get these kids out of harm's way.
 
A super maj of American don't want to kick out every person who's lived here, paid taxes and raised kids.
On what do you base your "super maj" statement. I believe a super majority wants anyone who has broken the US law to enter the country to be immediately rounded up and deported. They broke the law to enter the country. What makes you think they will respect any other US law. We WERE a nation of laws. That was in the past. Now the only people who are subject to the law are citizens.
 
Been a lot of wailing about the border for the last 4 years, Its been a mess no matter who's been in charge.
Immigration at the southern border has ALWAYS been a problem. Biden has turned a blind eye to it and opened the border. The US is a defacto third world country under the control of China. It will become increasingly evident as you discover your freedoms to travel restricted. Shortages will be commonplace in your stores. The $15/hr minimum wage? Enjoy it while you have $3/day or forced labor are not far behind. Note the Uighurs in China. Muslims in America are just pushing off the inevitable. What is happening in the Middle East and the horn of Africa is just the beginning--China does not like Muslims and Joe Biden and Kameltoe will do China's bidding. A sad state of affairs.
 
Anyone Notice AOC don't care about the kids in cages anymore?
Wrong. Get it right, they are 'facilities' now, not cages.


They do not even show the facility this time - just the outer fence. The flip in terminology is stark after the election.

They're not allowed inside. Biden has banned all journalists, human rights advocates, and lawyers from his concentration camps. It might take a military action to get these kids out of harm's way.
If it is just a “situation” why the major cover up?
 

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