A View From The Eye of The Storm

ajwps

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HAIM HARARI, a theoretical physicist, is the Chair, Davidson Institute
of Science Education, and Former President, from 1988 to 2001.

http://globalspecops.com/vieweyestorm.html

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Why do I put aside Israel and its own immediate neighborhood?
Because Israel and any problems related to it, in spite of what
you might read or hear in the world media, is not the central
issue, and has never been the central issue in the upheaval in
the region. Yes, there is a 100 year-old Israeli-Arab conflict,
but it is not where the main show is.......

The root of the trouble is that this entire Moslem region is totally
dysfunctional, by any standard of the word, and would have been so
even if Israel would have joined the Arab league and an independent
Palestine would have existed for 100 years. The 22 member countries
of the Arab league, from Mauritania to the Gulf States, have a total
population of 300 millions, larger than the US and almost as large as
the EU before its expansion. They have a land area larger than either
the US or all of Europe. These 22 countries, with all their oil and
natural resources, have a combined GDP smaller than that of
Netherlands plus Belgium and equal to half of the GDP of California
alone. Within this meager GDP, the gaps between rich and poor are
beyond belief and too many of the rich made their money not by
succeeding in business, but by being corrupt rulers. The social status
of women is far below what it was in the Western World 150 years ago.
Human rights are below any reasonable standard, in spite of the
grotesque fact that Libya was elected Chair of the UN Human Rights
commission. According to a report prepared by a committee of Arab
intellectuals and published under the auspices of the U.N., the number
of books translated by the entire Arab world is much smaller than what
little Greece alone translates. The total number of scientific
publications of 300 million Arabs is less than that of 6 million
Israelis. Birth rates in the region are very high, increasing the
poverty, the social gaps and the cultural decline. And all of this is
happening in a region, which only 30 years ago, was believed to be
the next wealthy part of the world, and in a Moslem area, which
developed, at some point in history, one of the most advanced cultures
in the world.....

I have no doubt that the civilized world will prevail. But the longer it takes us to understand the new landscape of this war, the more costly and painful the victory will be. Europe, more than any other region, is the key. Its understandable recoil from wars, following the horrors of World War II, may cost thousands of additional innocent lives, before the tide will turn.
 
I liked this part too !

I should also say a word about the millions of decent, honest, good
people who are either devout Moslems or are not very religious but
grew up in Moslem families. They are double victims of an outside
world, which now develops Islamophobia and of their own environment,
which breaks their heart by being totally dysfunctional. The problem
is that the vast silent majority of these Moslems are not part of the
terror and of the incitement but they also do not stand up against it.
They become accomplices, by omission, and this applies to political
leaders, intellectuals, business people and many others. Many of them
can certainly tell right from wrong, but are afraid to express their
 
dilloduck said:
I liked this part too !

I should also say a word about the millions of decent, honest, good
people who are either devout Moslems or are not very religious but
grew up in Moslem families. They are double victims of an outside
world, which now develops Islamophobia and of their own environment,
which breaks their heart by being totally dysfunctional. The problem
is that the vast silent majority of these Moslems are not part of the
terror and of the incitement but they also do not stand up against it.
They become accomplices, by omission, and this applies to political
leaders, intellectuals, business people and many others. Many of them
can certainly tell right from wrong, but are afraid to express their

Addendum: I didn't write this article and cannot be held responsible for any inaccuracies contained within the body of the text.

But even though there are Muslims who are victims and of their dysfunctional religion, these same Islamics like the rest of mankind and are to be held responsible for their brother's actions. Therefore, they in effect abet the majority of terrorism and religious intollerance as seen every day.
 
ajwps said:
Addendum: I didn't write this article and cannot be held responsible for any inaccuracies contained within the body of the text.

Where did I hold you accountable for anything? I just simply posted part of the article that you chose to leave out. Your censorship shows your bigotry but what else is new?
 
dilloduck said:
Where did I hold you accountable for anything? I just simply posted part of the article that you chose to leave out. Your censorship shows your bigotry but what else is new?

You didn't hold me accountable for anything but you chose to pluck one contradictory paragraph in the article that you find me accountable for posting the article in its entirety.

Contradiction in post:

The root of the trouble is that this entire Moslem region is totally
dysfunctional, by any standard of the word, and would have been so
even if Israel would have joined the Arab league and an independent
Palestine would have existed for 100 years.

vs

I should also say a word about the millions of decent, honest, good
people who are either devout Moslems or are not very religious but
grew up in Moslem families.

Is the entire region of ME Muslims dysfunctional or just those not living in the Sudan or Malaysia?

The rules of this site state that one should not post a full article but should link the article for all to read. It seems that your censorship and bias is showing from what appears to be contradictions within the article I posted.
 
ajwps said:
You didn't hold me accountable for anything but you chose to pluck one contradictory paragraph in the article that you find me accountable for posting the article in its entirety.

Contradiction in post:



vs



The rules of this site state that one should not post a full article but should link the article for all to read. It seems that your censorship and bias is showing from what appears to be contradictions within the article I posted.
I censored nothing---merely added to your post. Yes-I am biased against the stereotyping of all Arabs and muslims. If I were a muslim who really didn't give a shit about the whole jihad thing , I would appreciate those who acknowledged my existance. If all I heard was "all arabs are f**ked up" it may make me think the jihadists have a point.
 
dilloduck said:
I censored nothing---merely added to your post. Yes-I am biased against the stereotyping of all Arabs and muslims. If I were a muslim who really didn't give a shit about the whole jihad thing , I would appreciate those who acknowledged my existance. If all I heard was "all arabs are f**ked up" it may make me think the jihadists have a point.

It is unlike you to get so frustrated that you resort to the use of curses.

If you were a Muslim who didn't care about the Qur'an command for Jihad, then you would simply be a dead collaborator with Israel. Your existence would therefore not have any necessity to be acknowledged.

If you were a fun loving non-jihadist Muslim, you would still remain totally responsible for your fellow Muslims actions against mankind. Just as I accept responsibility for my fellow Jews for any evil or malicious actions they take against mankind. Defending your life is not something that makes one responsible for his brother's actions.
 
ajwps said:
It is unlike you to get so frustrated that you resort to the use of curses.

If you were a Muslim who didn't care about the Qur'an command for Jihad, then you would simply be a dead collaborator with Israel. Your existence would therefore not have any necessity to be acknowledged.

If you were a fun loving non-jihadist Muslim, you would still remain totally responsible for your fellow Muslims actions against mankind . Just as I accept responsibility for my fellow Jews for any evil or malicious actions they take against mankind. Defending your life is not something that makes one responsible for his brother's actions.

a Muslim in nowhere,USA is resposible for Muslim actions in Iran?
Pffffffffffffffffttttttt
 
dilloduck said:
a Muslim in nowhere,USA is resposible for Muslim actions in Iran?
Pffffffffffffffffttttttt

Your damned nonsense can I stand twice or once, but sometimes always, by G-d, never.

pffffffffttttttTTTTT

:dunno:
 

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