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In the last 50 years, where was the worst place
on the planet to be stationed ?
The obvious assumption would be Vietnam, going by the loss of 60,000 + troops, with Iraq being a close second, but there are some pretty unpleasant-looking 'hot zones' in Africa and other places too.
My brother is a Marine veteran retired in Hawaii ( Persian Gulf War 1),
but I've never been in.
Chosin Korea was much, much colder--30 belowIn the last 50 years, where was the worst place
on the planet to be stationed ?
The obvious assumption would be Vietnam, going by the loss of 60,000 + troops, with Iraq being a close second, but there are some pretty unpleasant-looking 'hot zones' in Africa and other places too.
My brother is a Marine veteran retired in Hawaii ( Persian Gulf War 1),
but I've never been in.
This is a dispute you'll never resolve. Veterans I know who served in Newfoundland or the Ardennes during WW2 complained about the freezing cold and snow.
Those who were in New Guinea, the Philippine Republic and other tropical locations bitch about heat and mosquitos.
One thing is certain, everyone thinks that where they are is worse that where the other fellows are.
well--cold???? sure if you think 30 BELOW zero is cold!!!! --and that's not wind chill ....my dad was at the ChosinMy dad was in South Korea, mainly in 1951. The way he described it was unbearably cold, terrible food (what there was of it), and of course the seven months of grueling combat. Dad sold all the free stuff the Army gave soldiers (cigarettes, condoms) to his comrades saved his money and spent it in Japan whenever he hightailed it there on liberty.
I would say the Chosin was hell:
-30 BELOW zero
-'''surrounded'''/cut off by about ten times the USMC strength
-hilly/icy/snowy/terrain
-basically, only one MSR [ Main Supply Route ]
-hard to get food/water/machines working/etc with that weather
-the Chinese did a lot of night attacks
..my dad got ''lucky''--shot in the leg--flown out of Hagaru-ri, if I remember correctly
well--cold???? sure if you think 30 BELOW zero is cold!!!! --and that's not wind chill ....my dad was at the ChosinMy dad was in South Korea, mainly in 1951. The way he described it was unbearably cold, terrible food (what there was of it), and of course the seven months of grueling combat. Dad sold all the free stuff the Army gave soldiers (cigarettes, condoms) to his comrades saved his money and spent it in Japan whenever he hightailed it there on liberty.
I would say the Chosin was hell:
-30 BELOW zero
-'''surrounded'''/cut off by about ten times the USMC strength
-hilly/icy/snowy/terrain
-basically, only one MSR [ Main Supply Route ]
-hard to get food/water/machines working/etc with that weather
-the Chinese did a lot of night attacks
..my dad got ''lucky''--shot in the leg--flown out of Hagaru-ri, if I remember correctly
Korea was a logistical nightmare. We went into it with the same equipment we used in WW2, which was woefully inadequate for the low temperature. I have a Korean War era field jacket and even though the liner is made of wool, it's not warm. Many of the officers carried the M1 carbine too. That little 110 grain bullet plodding along at 1800 fps had no penetration against the heavy padded clothing the Chinks were wearing. Of the Korean War veterans I've talked to, they all said how miserable that place was.
Worse place Philippines for female members.Worst place or most dangerous place?....most dangerous of course Afghanistan or Iraq 5 years ago....worst place...the Philippines....
but the USMC decimated the Chinese at the Chosin ..and the Chinese outnumbered them.....and the MSR was easily cut--which it was ..the terrain was good for the Chinese to cut off the US forceswell--cold???? sure if you think 30 BELOW zero is cold!!!! --and that's not wind chill ....my dad was at the ChosinMy dad was in South Korea, mainly in 1951. The way he described it was unbearably cold, terrible food (what there was of it), and of course the seven months of grueling combat. Dad sold all the free stuff the Army gave soldiers (cigarettes, condoms) to his comrades saved his money and spent it in Japan whenever he hightailed it there on liberty.
I would say the Chosin was hell:
-30 BELOW zero
-'''surrounded'''/cut off by about ten times the USMC strength
-hilly/icy/snowy/terrain
-basically, only one MSR [ Main Supply Route ]
-hard to get food/water/machines working/etc with that weather
-the Chinese did a lot of night attacks
..my dad got ''lucky''--shot in the leg--flown out of Hagaru-ri, if I remember correctly
Korea was a logistical nightmare. We went into it with the same equipment we used in WW2, which was woefully inadequate for the low temperature. I have a Korean War era field jacket and even though the liner is made of wool, it's not warm. Many of the officers carried the M1 carbine too. That little 110 grain bullet plodding along at 1800 fps had no penetration against the heavy padded clothing the Chinks were wearing. Of the Korean War veterans I've talked to, they all said how miserable that place was.
I think the veterans who survived Tet 68, Hue, or Hill 13 would probably disagree with your assessment.Worst place or most dangerous place?....most dangerous of course Afghanistan or Iraq 5 years ago....worst place...the Philippines....
Seems common, those were my sentiments re: Vietnam in 1970.the general feeling of the place was one of utter hopelessness set to the backdrop of a geographical paradise amid bombed out ghettos and unimaginable poverty
And the clothing and equipment that was issued to those great soldiers and Marines was not nearly up to the task of -30 temps. It is a wonder that more of our GI's did not succumb to the cold.well--cold???? sure if you think 30 BELOW zero is cold!!!! --and that's not wind chill ....my dad was at the ChosinMy dad was in South Korea, mainly in 1951. The way he described it was unbearably cold, terrible food (what there was of it), and of course the seven months of grueling combat. Dad sold all the free stuff the Army gave soldiers (cigarettes, condoms) to his comrades saved his money and spent it in Japan whenever he hightailed it there on liberty.
I would say the Chosin was hell:
-30 BELOW zero
-'''surrounded'''/cut off by about ten times the USMC strength
-hilly/icy/snowy/terrain
-basically, only one MSR [ Main Supply Route ]
-hard to get food/water/machines working/etc with that weather
-the Chinese did a lot of night attacks
..my dad got ''lucky''--shot in the leg--flown out of Hagaru-ri, if I remember correctly
..my dad had his parka---but I barely remembered that we ''tore'' it up somehowAnd the clothing and equipment that was issued to those great soldiers and Marines was not nearly up to the task of -30 temps. It is a wonder that more of our GI's did not succumb to the cold.well--cold???? sure if you think 30 BELOW zero is cold!!!! --and that's not wind chill ....my dad was at the ChosinMy dad was in South Korea, mainly in 1951. The way he described it was unbearably cold, terrible food (what there was of it), and of course the seven months of grueling combat. Dad sold all the free stuff the Army gave soldiers (cigarettes, condoms) to his comrades saved his money and spent it in Japan whenever he hightailed it there on liberty.
I would say the Chosin was hell:
-30 BELOW zero
-'''surrounded'''/cut off by about ten times the USMC strength
-hilly/icy/snowy/terrain
-basically, only one MSR [ Main Supply Route ]
-hard to get food/water/machines working/etc with that weather
-the Chinese did a lot of night attacks
..my dad got ''lucky''--shot in the leg--flown out of Hagaru-ri, if I remember correctly
San Francisco. After being stationed there Vietnam was fun and games.Maybe I should have rephrased it more like if you were in the US Military where's the worst place I could send you ? What's the greasiest, most unbearable s h it hole you could think of being sent to right now ?If you're being shot at or blown up, I'd say they are all the same, it's kinda like saying "would you like to be buried up to your neck in shit or buried up to your neck in shit, but you get a cup of coffee. Which is better. LOLIn the last 50 years, where was the worst place
on the planet to be stationed ?
The obvious assumption would be Vietnam, going by the loss of 60,000 + troops, with Iraq being a close second, but there are some pretty unpleasant-looking places in Africa and other places too.
My brother is a Marine veteran retired in Hawaii ( Persian Gulf War 1),
but I've never been in.
Seems to me that will be the place they hate us most.
San Francisco. After being stationed there Vietnam was fun and games.Maybe I should have rephrased it more like if you were in the US Military where's the worst place I could send you ? What's the greasiest, most unbearable s h it hole you could think of being sent to right now ?If you're being shot at or blown up, I'd say they are all the same, it's kinda like saying "would you like to be buried up to your neck in shit or buried up to your neck in shit, but you get a cup of coffee. Which is better. LOLIn the last 50 years, where was the worst place
on the planet to be stationed ?
The obvious assumption would be Vietnam, going by the loss of 60,000 + troops, with Iraq being a close second, but there are some pretty unpleasant-looking places in Africa and other places too.
My brother is a Marine veteran retired in Hawaii ( Persian Gulf War 1),
but I've never been in.
Seems to me that will be the place they hate us most.
Never been to New Guinea but the Delta seriously sucked in oh so many ways. The heat made you want to sleep uncovered but the skeeters would bleed you dry if you did assuming the leaches had left any remaining blood for them to get. Cobras on the ground. Bamboo vipers in the trees. Scorpions in your boots if you got to take them off. And rats bouncing on and off you if you tried to sleep. Uniforms and skin rotted in the constant wet and wrinkled up like you had spent a few years submerged in a bathtub. Not to mention unfriendly neighbors. Not on my recommended list of vacation spots.except for the time-frame it was New Guinea.
well--cold???? sure if you think 30 BELOW zero is cold!!!! --and that's not wind chill ....my dad was at the ChosinMy dad was in South Korea, mainly in 1951. The way he described it was unbearably cold, terrible food (what there was of it), and of course the seven months of grueling combat. Dad sold all the free stuff the Army gave soldiers (cigarettes, condoms) to his comrades saved his money and spent it in Japan whenever he hightailed it there on liberty.
I would say the Chosin was hell:
-30 BELOW zero
-'''surrounded'''/cut off by about ten times the USMC strength
-hilly/icy/snowy/terrain
-basically, only one MSR [ Main Supply Route ]
-hard to get food/water/machines working/etc with that weather
-the Chinese did a lot of night attacks
..my dad got ''lucky''--shot in the leg--flown out of Hagaru-ri, if I remember correctly
Korea was a logistical nightmare. We went into it with the same equipment we used in WW2, which was woefully inadequate for the low temperature. I have a Korean War era field jacket and even though the liner is made of wool, it's not warm. Many of the officers carried the M1 carbine too. That little 110 grain bullet plodding along at 1800 fps had no penetration against the heavy padded clothing the Chinks were wearing. Of the Korean War veterans I've talked to, they all said how miserable that place was.
