A Religious Worldview.....'Childish'

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1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.




2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.
 
Nice cut & paste.

There are plenty of people who don't believe in religion, leftism, or marxism.

But, I'm sure that doesn't fit in your false-dichotomy worldview where everything must be either black or white.
 
Nice cut & paste.

There are plenty of people who don't believe in religion, leftism, or marxism.

But, I'm sure that doesn't fit in your false-dichotomy worldview where everything must be either black or white.



I see you're one of those milk-people.....2% intelligent.


1. Any who employ the phrase 'cut and paste' are cowards who use same as an attempt to dodge what they cannot refute.
That would be you.



2. "There are plenty of people who don't believe in religion, leftism, or marxism."
Well, then...this isn't meant to indict them.
But, it certainly does seem to get under your skin...which is an admission that it is right on target.



3. "But, I'm sure that doesn't fit in your false-dichotomy worldview..."
Well, if you weren't a fool and/or a liar....a Liberal?....you would have been able to give examples of anything that I posted that is false....and shown it to be so.

You cannot....because there is nothing in the OP that is false.


In short, you are capable of no more than the usual Liberal/Leftist post, which is never any more than "..is not, is notttttt...'
 
3. The import of this thread is that some worldviews....labeled as 'childish' by opponents, are more worthy than others....and some, more deadly.


For totalitarians...and Liberalism is a totalitarian view in that it endorses an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hithertofore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’




For Liberals, 'new' is synonymous with 'good.'


a. Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.




4. 'In 1917 a new state came into existence, the Soviet Union, whose premises were a radical departure from those of previous societies. Many Western intellectuals seriously misjudged that new state—what it was and what it was to become. Why? I submit they were overwhelmed by the enormous theoretical appeal of the development of a "new man."


.... the center of the wave of approval that went through Western intellectual circles in the 1920s and 30s about the new society being built in the Soviet Union was that man himself was to somehow be changed. What they failed to take into account was that the concept of the creation of a new man necessitates atheism, the rejection of God, as state policy. In order to create a new man, man's nature must be changeable. Therefore, God's creation of man with an immutable nature must be invalid."
https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=1978&month=09
 
5. Perhaps, in comparing the worldview of religion to that of the Leftists who decry same, we should consider the result, the consequences, of each.




Religious folks cannot point to proof of God, nor of Heaven or an afterlife.

But we can point to the results of totalitarian endeavors:

a. "The Left says, “You fools, it is demonstrable that dinosaurs lived one hundred million years ago, I can prove it to you, how can you say the earth was created in 4000BCE?” But this supposed intransigence on the part of the Religious Right is far less detrimental to the health of the body politic than the Left’s love affair with Marxism, Socialism, Racialism, the Command Economy, all of which have been proven via one hundred years of evidence shows only shortages, despotism and murder."
David Mamet, "The Secret Knowledge."


b. 'The total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of humanity's poor practice of Judaism and Christianity is approximately 17 million.This number would include ancient wars, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and witchcraft trials.'
Isn t religion to blame for most of history s killings




c. There is no basis to claim religion has come close to the totalitarian history of mass murder in the last century alone.

Stalin....42,672,000

Mao.....37,828,000

Hitler....20,946,000

Lenin....4,017,000

Pol Pot...2,397,000

Tojo.....3,990,000

Total......111,850,000
14 Liberal Demagoguery Hate and Violence A Compendium



Now...what was I saying about some worldviews being.....deadly.
Some 112 million human beings....slaughtered by savages who aim to eradicate religion.
Yet, the facts are met by Liberals and Progressives with a shrug.
 
5. Perhaps, in comparing the worldview of religion to that of the Leftists who decry same, we should consider the result, the consequences, of each.




Religious folks cannot point to proof of God, nor of Heaven or an afterlife.

But we can point to the results of totalitarian endeavors:

a. "The Left says, “You fools, it is demonstrable that dinosaurs lived one hundred million years ago, I can prove it to you, how can you say the earth was created in 4000BCE?” But this supposed intransigence on the part of the Religious Right is far less detrimental to the health of the body politic than the Left’s love affair with Marxism, Socialism, Racialism, the Command Economy, all of which have been proven via one hundred years of evidence shows only shortages, despotism and murder."
David Mamet, "The Secret Knowledge."


b. 'The total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of humanity's poor practice of Judaism and Christianity is approximately 17 million.This number would include ancient wars, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and witchcraft trials.'
Isn t religion to blame for most of history s killings




c. There is no basis to claim religion has come close to the totalitarian history of mass murder in the last century alone.

Stalin....42,672,000

Mao.....37,828,000

Hitler....20,946,000

Lenin....4,017,000

Pol Pot...2,397,000

Tojo.....3,990,000

Total......111,850,000
14 Liberal Demagoguery Hate and Violence A Compendium



Now...what was I saying about some worldviews being.....deadly.
Some 112 million human beings....slaughtered by savages who aim to eradicate religion.
Yet, the facts are met by Liberals and Progressives with a shrug.
5. Perhaps, in comparing the worldview of religion to that of the Leftists who decry same, we should consider the result, the consequences, of each.




Religious folks cannot point to proof of God, nor of Heaven or an afterlife.

But we can point to the results of totalitarian endeavors:

a. "The Left says, “You fools, it is demonstrable that dinosaurs lived one hundred million years ago, I can prove it to you, how can you say the earth was created in 4000BCE?” But this supposed intransigence on the part of the Religious Right is far less detrimental to the health of the body politic than the Left’s love affair with Marxism, Socialism, Racialism, the Command Economy, all of which have been proven via one hundred years of evidence shows only shortages, despotism and murder."
David Mamet, "The Secret Knowledge."


b. 'The total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of humanity's poor practice of Judaism and Christianity is approximately 17 million.This number would include ancient wars, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and witchcraft trials.'
Isn t religion to blame for most of history s killings




c. There is no basis to claim religion has come close to the totalitarian history of mass murder in the last century alone.

Stalin....42,672,000

Mao.....37,828,000

Hitler....20,946,000

Lenin....4,017,000

Pol Pot...2,397,000

Tojo.....3,990,000

Total......111,850,000
14 Liberal Demagoguery Hate and Violence A Compendium



Now...what was I saying about some worldviews being.....deadly.
Some 112 million human beings....slaughtered by savages who aim to eradicate religion.
Yet, the facts are met by Liberals and Progressives with a shrug.
1. Actually, There is a sound and valid basis to claim totalitarian religions have surpassed the totalitarian history of mass murder committed by a few psychopaths.

2. You being, how shall we say... "slow"?, need only expand your cut and paste horizons to actually examine the data.

3. You're a moron.

4. You're an imbecile.
 
GF of mine way back told me my use of 'xmas' bothered her so I took to writing it out 'Christmas.' Did it in large part because I really liked her, and she liked everything I did in the sex-department.

But I don't like PC or her impossible to follow writing style or ultra-religiousity and fascist politics.
 
1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.




2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.
Look at all of the religious people on these boards who criticize aethiests.
 
GF of mine way back told me my use of 'xmas' bothered her so I took to writing it out 'Christmas.' Did it in large part because I really liked her, and she liked everything I did in the sex-department.

But I don't like PC or her impossible to follow writing style or ultra-religiousity and fascist politics.




"But I don't like PC...."

Know the old saw "birds of a feather flock together"?
Your post is the most heartening news I've had all day!
Thank heaven we're not 'birds of a feather.'

Made me think of Yeats...
"Think where man's glory most begins and ends, and say my glory was I had such friends."



BTW...
There's a landfill nearby....you might feel right at home.
 
1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.




2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.
Look at all of the religious people on these boards who criticize aethiests.


It's interesting.....telling, in fact, what you chose to respond to.

You Liberals simply hate it when facts about you are revealed.



And you did serve as proof of this:

Now...what was I saying about some worldviews being.....deadly.
Some 112 million human beings....slaughtered by savages who aim to eradicate religion.
Yet, the facts are met by Liberals and Progressives with a shrug.
 
GF of mine way back told me my use of 'xmas' bothered her so I took to writing it out 'Christmas.' Did it in large part because I really liked her, and she liked everything I did in the sex-department.

But I don't like PC or her impossible to follow writing style or ultra-religiousity and fascist politics.



You should save your breath....you might need it to inflate your 'GF.'
 
1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.




2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.



So, what do you call conservatives who are also atheists?
 
1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'


.

Right, we never see any denigration of liberals in the RWnut rhetoric here...

fuckinay you're retarded.
 
1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.




2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.
Look at all of the religious people on these boards who criticize aethiests.


It's interesting.....telling, in fact, what you chose to respond to.

You Liberals simply hate it when facts about you are revealed.



And you did serve as proof of this:

Now...what was I saying about some worldviews being.....deadly.
Some 112 million human beings....slaughtered by savages who aim to eradicate religion.
Yet, the facts are met by Liberals and Progressives with a shrug.
Good deflection. You did not even have to cut and paste. Or did you?
 
1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.




2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.



So, what do you call conservatives who are also atheists?




So....you are forced to agree with my posts?

Excellent.
 
1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'


.

Right, we never see any denigration of liberals in the RWnut rhetoric here...

fuckinay you're retarded.



Sorry, I don't feel like instructing you in proper use of terminology today.

Let's simply note that you were unable to find a single error in any of my posts, and leave it at that.
 
1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.




2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.
Look at all of the religious people on these boards who criticize aethiests.


It's interesting.....telling, in fact, what you chose to respond to.

You Liberals simply hate it when facts about you are revealed.



And you did serve as proof of this:

Now...what was I saying about some worldviews being.....deadly.
Some 112 million human beings....slaughtered by savages who aim to eradicate religion.
Yet, the facts are met by Liberals and Progressives with a shrug.
Good deflection. You did not even have to cut and paste. Or did you?


Deflection?

Is that the term your masters tell you to throw in when you're stumped?

My post, of course, noted that you produced a vapid attempt at avoiding the subject.
You did....but unsuccessfully....as is the case with most of your endeavors.
 
4. 'In 1917 a new state came into existence, the Soviet Union, whose premises were a radical departure from those of previous societies. Many Western intellectuals seriously misjudged that new state—what it was and what it was to become. Why? I submit they were overwhelmed by the enormous theoretical appeal of the development of a "new man."
The USSR was not established until 1922...
 
4. 'In 1917 a new state came into existence, the Soviet Union, whose premises were a radical departure from those of previous societies. Many Western intellectuals seriously misjudged that new state—what it was and what it was to become. Why? I submit they were overwhelmed by the enormous theoretical appeal of the development of a "new man."
The USSR was not established until 1922...



You're truly a moron.

1. 'Vladimir Lenin, founder of the Bolshevik Party; returned to Russia from exile in April 1917, and advocated armed rebellion to establish Communist state.

An interesting side note: evidence suggests that Germany, with the aim of destabilizing Russia, aided Lenin in returning from Switzerland, ...and actually funded the Bolshevik Party.


"Lenin believed that he could orchestrate a new revolution in much the same way that the previous one had happened [against the Czar], by instigating large street demonstrations. ... he began to work toward seizing power for the Bolsheviks using every means available. The first attempt took place in late April, during a sharp disagreement between the provisional government and the Petrograd Soviet over the best way to get Russia out of World War I. As frustrated military personnel began to demonstrate in the streets, the Bolsheviks attempted to agitate the troops by demanding the ouster of the provisional government. However, no coup grew out of these demonstrations, and they dissipated without incident."SparkNotes The Russian Revolution 1917 1918 Lenin and the Bolsheviks

2. "...on October 24, 1917 (old calendar)Leninist cadres forcibly seized controlof all the power centers in Petrograd: railroads, mail, phones, banks, bridges..... Lenin arrived at the Congress to proclaim the"worldwide socialist revolution."

3. The Commintern, the Communist International, was founded in Moscow in March, 1919. Not far behind it, the Communist Party, USA (CPUSA) was founded in Chicago in September, 1919.While the archives are rich with their literature, they are rarely studied, as most academic historians are on the left and have little interest in revealing or discussing the revelations or machinations therein.
Further, Yeltsin had declassified many documents in the 1990’s whichproved that everything the anti-communists said, was true!


a.In 1919,Executive Sec’y of CPUSA, Charles Ruthenberg, wrote the following to Moscow: “Hail to the dictatorship of the proletariat. Long live the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic. Long livethe Communist International.”A loyal Soviet patriot, his ashes are buried in the wall of the Kremlin.


b. From the November 24, 1919 application of the CPUSA to the Commintern: “The final struggle of the communist proletariat will be waged in the United States. Our conquest of power alone assuring the world Soviet Republic! Realizing all of this, the Communist Party prepares for the struggle. Long livethe Communist International, long live the world revolution!’


George Orwell wrote in 1984, "One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes a revolution in order to establish the dictatorship."The first Communist state had arrived." Lenin and the First Communist Revolutions IV




Now see if you can figure out how the above history lesson proves that you're a moron.
 

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