A quick question about the shutdown.

[Lesh]

They must pay for their crimes and be driven into non-existent. That's a good start.

What crimes? Opposition to Dear Leader?

 

[Lesh]

WRONG. If you want to discuss extending it, we need to know how much it costs.
My estimate is $130b a year for 2026.

WRONG. The subsidy EXPIRES therefore if you want to add it to the 2026 budget it needs to be a line item.
$138b isn't that bad actually, tariffs can cover it. It would help ease the $11,400/yr Bidenflation cost families.
The $1.5T add that democrats want is a hard NO.

The shutdown in no way addresses the total cost of the ACA (the 1.5B you tards keep mentioning) . In fact that cost is offset in a number of ways to that is NOT the number added to the debt.

The shutdown is actually about extending premium subsidiary increases.

Increases. Not even the entire subsidy costs.

The increase in question amounts to 35B

Kinda a little different than 1.5 trillion huh?

 

[leftwinger]

What crimes? Opposition to Dear Leader?

Using GOVT power and resources for political gains by persecuting opposition illegally. Russian collusulion hoax. And more.

 

[Lesh]

Using GOVT power and resources for political gains by persecuting opposition illegally. Russian collusulion hoax. And more.

Rut ro.

Then Trump is in trouble

 

[kyzr]

The shutdown in no way addresses the total cost of the ACA (the 1.5B you tards keep mentioning) . In fact that cost is offset in a number of ways to that is NOT the number added to the debt.
The shutdown is actually about extending premium subsidiary increases.

WRONG, no matter how many time you type it.
THE ******* SUBSIDY EXPIRES. ITS GONE, UNLESS WE ADD IT BACK, ALL OF IT, about $130b in 2026.

Increases. Not even the entire subsidy costs. The increase in question amounts to 35B

WRONG, no matter how many times you type it. The subsidy is gone, it expired, unless it is added back.

Kinda a little different than $1.5 trillion huh?

Schumer and Hakeem want the $1.5T. That is a hard NO.

 

[sartre play]

Using GOVT power and resources for political gains by persecuting opposition illegally. Russian collusulion hoax. And more.

Please explain Any POLITICAN Not USING THIS HATE FEST to increase their power & money?

 

[Lesh]

WRONG, no matter how many time you type it.
THE ******* SUBSIDY EXPIRES. ITS GONE, UNLESS WE ADD IT BACK, ALL OF IT, about $130b in 2026.

WRONG, no matter how many times you type it. The subsidy is gone, it expired, unless it is added back.

Schumer and Hakeem want the $1.5T. That is a hard NO.

The subsidies are not at risk moron. Only the added increase

Jesus. Find a link saying that the entire subsidy goes away. You can’t because that’s not true

 

[M14 Shooter]

Schumer and Hakeem want the $1.5T. That is a hard NO.

True.

The bill calls for permanently extending enhanced Affordable Care Act subsidies that were passed in 2021 during the COVID-19 pandemic and extended in 2022. Those are set to expire Dec. 31. The Democratic bill would also reverse cuts to Medicaid and other health programs that Republicans enacted in their signature tax and spending legislation.

The Democrats’ measure would restore funding for public broadcasting that Republicans nixed in July and includes over $320 million for security for lawmakers, the executive branch and the Supreme Court. (Republicans have proposed $88 million in security funding in their resolution bill.)

The bill also contains mandates for how the Trump administration can spend money and would hinder the White House’s recent attempt to cancel almost $5 billion in foreign aid.

The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a group that’s hawkish on the deficit, said in a Sept. 18 press release that Democrats’ proposal in its entirety would add $1.5 trillion to the national debt over the next decade.

“The (continuing resolution) itself — the part that funds the government — would not add $1.5 trillion to the debt, but the bill that Democrats have proposed includes other provisions that would,” Chris Towner, the group’s policy director, wrote in an email. “The bill repeals the health spending cuts that were included in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which would cost about $1.1 trillion over a decade to repeal.”

Towner also said the Democrats’ provision to make the enhanced ACA subsidies permanent would cost about $350 billion over a decade.

Fact-checking what politicians are saying about the 2025 government shutdown

When Congress can’t reach a funding agreement, both sides of the political aisle whip up talking points about what a shutdown means for the economy, immigration, worker paychecks, disaster response and services for low-income families. The blame is nearly always placed on the other party.

www.pbs.org

The Republicans are completely correct in telling Schumer to **** off.

 

[citygator]

$130B for 13 million one year is $10,000 per subsidy. A lot.

That isnt correct. There are 42M. Not 13M. 13M are just those who loses their insurance, not everyone affected with higher costs. Make sense?

 

[Lesh]

The cost of extending the ACA premium increase over the next ten years is 350B

Offsetting ACA Enhanced Subsidy Extensions | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

2025-08-13-9/26/25: Updated to reflect new CBO estimate of the cost of enhanced ACA subsidies.

www.crfb.org

 

[M14 Shooter]

The cost of extending the ACA premium increase over the next ten years is 350B

So.. $350B of the $1.5T Democrats want to add to the debt.

 

[kyzr]

The subsidies are not at risk moron. Only the added increase
Jesus. Find a link saying that the entire subsidy goes away. You can’t because that’s not true

As the shutdown drags on, these people will lose if health care subsidies expire

Millions of Americans with Affordable Care Act marketplace health insurance will face higher costs next year if Congress doesn't extend enhanced premium tax credits that have made the plans more affordable.

apnews.com

Monreal, 47, and her husband, Jorge, 57, rely on the Affordable Care Act marketplace for health coverage. If Congress doesn’t extend certain ACA tax credits set to expire at the end of the year, their fully subsidized plan will increase in cost, putting it out of reach. Without insurance, they won’t be able to afford his expected knee replacement surgeries, much less the treatment they need for other issues, like her chronic high blood pressure and his high cholesterol.

 

[kyzr]

So.. $350B of the $1.5T Democrats want to add to the debt.

NO. Extending the Covid subsidy would cost about $130b a year, not $35b.

No one really knows what stupid spending items are included in that $1.5T.

 

[Lesh]

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As the shutdown drags on, these people will lose if health care subsidies expire

Millions of Americans with Affordable Care Act marketplace health insurance will face higher costs next year if Congress doesn't extend enhanced premium tax credits that have made the plans more affordable.

apnews.com

Monreal, 47, and her husband, Jorge, 57, rely on the Affordable Care Act marketplace for health coverage. If Congress doesn’t extend certain ACA tax credits set to expire at the end of the year, their fully subsidized plan will increase in cost, putting it out of reach. Without insurance, they won’t be able to afford his expected knee replacement surgeries, much less the treatment they need for other issues, like her chronic high blood pressure and his high cholesterol.

You just proved my point stupid

See the word “enhanced”?

THOSE subsidies (added during COVID) are at risk and only those

35B per year

 

[leftwinger]

Please explain Any POLITICAN Not USING THIS HATE FEST to increase their power & money?

Trump 2015-2020. The obiden regime guilty of seditious conspiracy to prevent or overthrow an elected President. I hope President Trump can make them pay. 20 yr sentence for Sedition.

 

[citygator]

Trump 2015-2020. The obiden regime guilty of seditious conspiracy to prevent or overthrow an elected President. I hope President Trump can make them pay. 20 yr sentence for Sedition.

You guys have seriously warped brains. Trump tried to discredit and disregard a legal and secure election and incited a riot to delay or stop the certification. Trump is a traitor. i would have tried and hung him for it. He's lucky all they did was convict traitors for trespassing, vandalism, and interfering with proceedings.

 

[kyzr]

You just proved my point stupid
See the word “enhanced”?
THOSE subsidies (added during COVID) are at risk and only those
35B per year

Your stupidity is "enhanced".
The Covid subsidy expires the end of 2025. All of it expires, color it gone. Nada. Zilch. No subsidy exists for 2026.
To add a new subsidy for 2026, like for 2025, would cost the 2026 federal budget about $130b.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Your stupidity is "enhanced".
The Covid subsidy expires the end of 2025. All of it expires, color it gone. Nada. Zilch. No subsidy exists for 2026.
To add a new subsidy for 2026, like for 2025, would cost the 2026 federal budget about $130b.

Do only about 1/3 the cost of what Trump just gave to Argentina.

Wonder how many millions of American citizens could have retained health insurance for that amount.

WW

 

[kyzr]

Do only about 1/3 the cost of what Trump just gave to Argentina.
Wonder how many millions of American citizens could have retained health insurance for that amount.
WW

We loaned Argentina $20b. A 2026 Covid subsidy would cost about $130b a year, for 21.4m Americans, do the math.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/12/economy/argentina-america-bailout-currency

Bessent said the administration has finalized a $20 billion currency swap agreement with Argentina’s central bank, allowing it to exchange its local currency for the US dollar.
It’s essentially a $20 billion loan, experts say.

 

[citygator]

NO. Extending the Covid subsidy would cost about $130b a year, not $35b.

No one really knows what stupid spending items are included in that $1.5T.

I do. Cuz I can read.

https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fy26_democratic_continuing_resolution_text.pdf

The Democrat-proposed CR includes an additional $1.5 trillion in spending for various items, primarily focused on healthcare. Specific components reportedly include:

• Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies: A permanent extension of enhanced subsidies to help lower- and middle-income individuals afford health insurance, which were set to expire.
• Healthcare funding: Restoring billions in funding that Republicans cut from programs such as the Rural Health Transformation Fund.
• Protections for certain programs: Democrats sought to protect funding levels for programs such as Medicaid.
• Reversal of executive actions: The proposal includes language to reverse certain actions from the previous administration, particularly those related to funding and policy.