If there is a finite amount of money then tell me what that amount is.
There are different measures, but M2 is about 8 trillions now.
Exactly, and if you can exchange your labour for more goods and services, then someone else's labour is valued less in goods and services -- means you getting richer and that guy is getting poorer.
Hence the economy is not a zero sum game.
It is not, the pie is getting bigger -- but if your piece is growing faster, then someone else is growing not as fast, or getting smaller:
1) The whole pie is $1000, you are getting 600, the other guy is left with 400
2) The pie grew twice to $2000, you are getting 1700, the other guy is getting only 300.
The pie got bigger -- not a zero sum game, but other guy is now poorer.
I see what he's trying to claim. That as the pie grows, poor people are robbed by the rich making them even poorer. It's not true of course, but he won't accept any other answer. Secondly, he seems to believe this to be a permanent state if it DID exist. Not to mention the false conclusion that anyone not rich gets less as the pie grows.
So it's a quartet of (false?) philosophical arguments that have no evidence of being true.
1. The Rich rob the poor when there is economic growth.
2. The Rich keep all profit to themselves and it STAYS with them helping no one else.
3. Everyone remains locked in permanent class status with no mobility.
4. It is your business what someone else makes because somehow it affects you.
There has sadly become a trend where as the rich are wanting far to much when the pie grows these days (refusing to respect or to share that which was gained by all in the situation responsibly and morally), and they have more excuses than a young feller standing there with all the cookies from the cookie jar now found in his hands (stealing them), in which he somehow tries to make excuses for, (wildly doing this with crumbs all over his face), where he attemps to make these excuses anyway once called out on his bad/greed when caught, and this after the damage has been done.
Meanwhile his brothers and sisters (whom work in the store as employee's) await his return to the wagon, in hopes that he had went in to the store that he manages, in order to just buy a few cookies extra, to then share in kind with them upon his return, not realizing that his greed had now gotten the best of him while he awaits his fate inside.
Now who are the owners of the mercantile/store ? x____________________________________.
(1) The government indirectly through subsidies, loans, grants and more that were given ?
(2) The CEO of say a cookie corporation/franchise, that the young man was working for as management, in which unkowingly taught him these things that he has now learned, via bad cookie bonus programs that were offered him, and/or through other methods of free unregulated and unwatched activities that had now grown him into a greed mister, and all these days as a result of ? Add some more possibilities if want to, and this upon helping to identify all the players who are involved.
We know who the young man is now, and we know now what his character is or has since become, but how many are liken to him now in this nation? #____.
Who was hurt the most from his activities? x__________________________________.
If activities are linked to just one, then it should be defined and kept as such, later to be delt with as a blip on the radar screen, but if a trend had since gotten started, and it involves many, then lables begin to fly as a result of always, and then they begin to stick (i.e. ditto the words, the rich), in which gets used in a blanketing way (sometimes to be viewed in a blanketing manor, all due to them linking themselves together in cliques or sticking together in groups or communities that work together it seems in these ways when found out about), and usually all due to the situation becoming over bearing when so many of these rich guy's begin doing these sorts of things together in trends these days, and in a far to greedy way they had begun to do it, while the employee's/citizens are out on the wagon in the hot sun, awaiting their once intrusted friends return to share with them some of the product or wealth, in which isn't coming now as a result of this greed.
Does the government now see itself as rescuing the employee's and/or citizens from the hot sun upon the worn out wagon in which they now sit in it all ? It apears so...
Are their Private Sector forces, that can self regulate now (?), by taking care of the internal problems themselves, instead of allowing the government to do it for them? This would be the best senario, but when the CEO's and management's are involved up to their necks in corruption and greed, then the government has no choice but to try and step in, and to regulate it somehow from the information and fall out that it is seeing and gaining in it all, and this from the outside looking in.
